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Old 03 Apr 2005, 09:39 pm   #1 (permalink)
Francis styles
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My 2004 US Camry handbook says change oil every 5000 miles. Why is the
interval so short? If I had a European car in Europe the recommended
change would be at least 10000 miles and if I had a truck it would
100,000 miles. Is the US oil manufactured to a lower standard?
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Old 03 Apr 2005, 10:12 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Europeans don't drive mile to grocery store - they walk. There trafic is
usually not as congested as in our cities. Both these result in sever usage
picture. Their driving is usually for longer distances. Many of them also
have larger oil capacities for higher speed driving. Plus oil is whole lot
more costly there and most use synthetic - even more costly!

"Francis styles" <alanya@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> My 2004 US Camry handbook says change oil every 5000 miles. Why is the
> interval so short? If I had a European car in Europe the recommended
> change would be at least 10000 miles and if I had a truck it would 100,000
> miles. Is the US oil manufactured to a lower standard?



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Old 03 Apr 2005, 11:14 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"Francis styles" <alanya@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> My 2004 US Camry handbook says change oil every 5000 miles. Why is the
> interval so short? If I had a European car in Europe the recommended
> change would be at least 10000 miles and if I had a truck it would
> 100,000 miles. Is the US oil manufactured to a lower standard?


Most of the cars sold in Europe require an oil that is equivalent to
synthetic blend or full synthetic sold in the US. This is because of
pollution concerns in Europe of used oil and the generally higher cost of
oil in Europe. If you use full synthetic in the US, you can go longer than
5000 miles. But since not everyone uses synthetic, and the manufacturer does
not require it, you need to change at the manufacturer interval to maintain
your warranty.

I thought that for normal driving, the Toyota interval is 7500 miles. Maybe
they have changed it newer vehicles.

There is no way you can go 100,000 miles (166,666 km) unless the vehicle
uses a full synthetic and has a built in oil cleaning system (not just a
filter).


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Old 04 Apr 2005, 01:49 am   #4 (permalink)
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Francis styles wrote:
|| My 2004 US Camry handbook says change oil every 5000 miles. Why is
|| the interval so short? If I had a European car in Europe the
|| recommended change would be at least 10000 miles and if I had a
|| truck it would 100,000 miles. Is the US oil manufactured to a lower
|| standard?

WHAT is the big effing deal? If one lays out 30 large for a car, WHY BITCH
AND MOAN about a few dollars spent on every 5000 mile oil changes?




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Old 04 Apr 2005, 01:49 am   #5 (permalink)
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Wolfgang wrote:
|| Europeans don't drive mile to grocery store - they walk. There

Europeans also don't fight their own battles, relying on the U.S. to do it
for them.


|| trafic is usually not as congested as in our cities. Both these
|| result in sever usage picture. Their driving is usually for longer
|| distances. Many of them also have larger oil capacities for higher
|| speed driving. Plus oil is whole lot more costly there and most use
|| synthetic - even more costly!
||
|| "Francis styles" <alanya@verizon.net> wrote in message
|| news:sN14e.11697$Fh2.996@trnddc04...
||| My 2004 US Camry handbook says change oil every 5000 miles. Why is
||| the interval so short? If I had a European car in Europe the
||| recommended change would be at least 10000 miles and if I had a
||| truck it would 100,000 miles. Is the US oil manufactured to a
||| lower standard?


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Old 04 Apr 2005, 08:49 am   #6 (permalink)
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Oil changes are realy dependant on how you drive and what you use. Short
trip 5 min winter driving can mean 3000 or less for a change. Even with
synthetic in summer on highway at 5000 oil is due for a change.

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Old 04 Apr 2005, 11:27 pm   #7 (permalink)
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m Ransley wrote:
|| Oil changes are realy dependant on how you drive and what you use.
|| Short trip 5 min winter driving can mean 3000 or less for a change.
|| Even with synthetic in summer on highway at 5000 oil is due for a
|| change.

FULLY agree. You can't change your oil too often.


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Old 05 Apr 2005, 10:16 am   #8 (permalink)
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I am know in the US in order to keep your Warranty valid, you must change
your oil every 5000 miles or 6 months, whichever comes first. This of
course ensures very little warranty costs to Toyota regarding Warranty
Repairs on the engine. Plus you can fully expect to see your Toyota hit
100,000 miles plus, changing the oil every 3700 miles will give your engine
a longer life. IMHO

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"Francis styles" <alanya@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> My 2004 US Camry handbook says change oil every 5000 miles. Why is the
> interval so short? If I had a European car in Europe the recommended
> change would be at least 10000 miles and if I had a truck it would 100,000
> miles. Is the US oil manufactured to a lower standard?



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Old 05 Apr 2005, 02:53 pm   #9 (permalink)
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"Francis styles" <alanya@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> My 2004 US Camry handbook says change oil every 5000 miles. Why is the
> interval so short? If I had a European car in Europe the recommended
> change would be at least 10000 miles and if I had a truck it would
> 100,000 miles. Is the US oil manufactured to a lower standard?



Oil and filter cost is so low compared to the longevity your Toyota motor
will give, that its a non-event. For less than $20 every 3000 miles, its
cheap insurance.

Jason





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