timing change replaced at 50,000 miles?

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Old 20 Apr 2005, 08:42 am   #1 (permalink)
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Default timing change replaced at 50,000 miles?

I am looking into buying a used Toyota Camry LE probably 2000, 2001, or
2002.

I recall seeing something about the Owner's Manual calling for changing the
timing chain at 50,000 miles. Is this true?

Also it was mentioned that at same time it was a good idea to change the
water punp,and some other parts.

I would have to have this done at a dealer or a suitable repair shop.

What would a job like this cost?

Can anyone give me an answer to all the above questions?

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Old 20 Apr 2005, 09:35 am   #2 (permalink)
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Panos Popadopalous, 4/20/2005, 9:42:41 AM,
<d45m8i02ki0@enews2.newsguy.com> wrote:

> I am looking into buying a used Toyota Camry LE probably 2000, 2001,
> or 2002.
>
> I recall seeing something about the Owner's Manual calling for
> changing the timing chain at 50,000 miles. Is this true?
>
> Also it was mentioned that at same time it was a good idea to change
> the water punp,and some other parts.
>
> I would have to have this done at a dealer or a suitable repair shop.
>
> What would a job like this cost?
>
> Can anyone give me an answer to all the above questions?


I believe 4 cylinder models are scheduled for 60K mile timing BELT
replacement and 6 cylinder ones at 90K miles. My 94 Camry had 162K
miles with original water pump. My 97 has 103K miles with original
water pump. Each time the dealer has looked at the pump and said it
need not be replaced. Prices at dealer are $150 to $200 depending on 4
or 6. Sometimes they have coupons. Somewhere else will be
approximately $50 cheaper.

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Old 20 Apr 2005, 10:50 am   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: timing change replaced at 50,000 miles?

50000 is a bit early they go easily over 110 but are conservative on
milage for replacement so you dont get stuck. wait till 60-90

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Old 20 Apr 2005, 08:09 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: timing change replaced at 50,000 miles?

Thanks for your reply, badgolferman.

I am considering a 2002 Camry LE with 68,000 miles, so your reply was very
helpful.

Owner says it needs two new front tires. I am guessing $100 each including
tire, valve stem, and installation. Is this enough? or way too high?

I am going to check his owner's manual and his repair and maintenance bills
to see what is required and what he has actually done. Such as brake jobs,
wheel alignment, etc.




"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Panos Popadopalous, 4/20/2005, 9:42:41 AM,
> <d45m8i02ki0@enews2.newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> I am looking into buying a used Toyota Camry LE probably 2000, 2001,
>> or 2002.
>>
>> I recall seeing something about the Owner's Manual calling for
>> changing the timing chain at 50,000 miles. Is this true?
>>
>> Also it was mentioned that at same time it was a good idea to change
>> the water punp,and some other parts.
>>
>> I would have to have this done at a dealer or a suitable repair shop.
>>
>> What would a job like this cost?
>>
>> Can anyone give me an answer to all the above questions?

>
> I believe 4 cylinder models are scheduled for 60K mile timing BELT
> replacement and 6 cylinder ones at 90K miles. My 94 Camry had 162K
> miles with original water pump. My 97 has 103K miles with original
> water pump. Each time the dealer has looked at the pump and said it
> need not be replaced. Prices at dealer are $150 to $200 depending on 4
> or 6. Sometimes they have coupons. Somewhere else will be
> approximately $50 cheaper.
>
> --
> No matter what happens, someone will find a way to take it too
> seriously.


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Old 20 Apr 2005, 08:12 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: timing change replaced at 50,000 miles?

Thanks, MRamsley, for helpful reply.

Please see my reply to badgolferman for the further action I plan to take.


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> 50000 is a bit early they go easily over 110 but are conservative on
> milage for replacement so you dont get stuck. wait till 60-90
>


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Old 20 Apr 2005, 09:24 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Panos Popadopalous, 4/20/2005, 9:09:42 PM, wrote:

> Thanks for your reply, badgolferman.
>
> I am considering a 2002 Camry LE with 68,000 miles, so your reply was
> very helpful.
>
> Owner says it needs two new front tires. I am guessing $100 each
> including tire, valve stem, and installation. Is this enough? or
> way too high?
>
> I am going to check his owner's manual and his repair and maintenance
> bills to see what is required and what he has actually done. Such as
> brake jobs, wheel alignment, etc.
>


I am not a big spender so $100 per tire for installation sounds very
high to me. If you are a member of Costco or such you can find decent
tires for $70 installed. If not watch papers for sales by tire
merchants. The last set of tires I bought I got from www.tirerack.com
so make sure you check those and call around locally to see how much
installation costs. You might choose to shop online.

If you have access to prior maintenance records that would be very
helpful for you. The 2002 Camry is the first year of the new design.
After owning the 1997 I am leery of first year designs personally. You
may want to look at the exhaust system from the rear and see if you can
live with the hanging pipe.

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Old 21 Apr 2005, 03:45 am   #7 (permalink)
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:09:42 -0400, "Panos Popadopalous"
<panos@athens.net> wrote:

>Thanks for your reply, badgolferman.
>
>I am considering a 2002 Camry LE with 68,000 miles, so your reply was very
>helpful.
>


Twenty three thousand miles per year..... wow.
Hope it's mostly highway miles :/

(Is this a sludge candidate?)

>Owner says it needs two new front tires. I am guessing $100 each including
>tire, valve stem, and installation. Is this enough? or way too high?
>


Tires for the Camry start at $48 and go as high as $133 ($75 for a
brand name).
Tires.com and Tirerack.com are good places to do research ;-)

>I am going to check his owner's manual and his repair and maintenance bills
>to see what is required and what he has actually done. Such as brake jobs,
>wheel alignment, etc.
>
>

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Old 21 Apr 2005, 08:55 am   #8 (permalink)
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I have had very good luck with Cooper Tires. There are two grades. I
use the better grade of Cooper. They well worth the extra expense.
I do a lot of highway driving and about 10 miles of gravel roads daily.
Not unusual for me to drive several hundred miles/day.
My 1994 Camry has over 220,000 miles. I change the timing belt,
idlers, idler springs, water pump, Toyota anti-freeze and spark plugs
every 60,000 miles. The first time was done by the dealer. Since then,
we have changed them at home. Not a hard task. Just follow the
instructions in the Haynes manual for you Camry.

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Old 21 Apr 2005, 09:08 am   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks again for previous info.

Can you tell me if the 2002 Toyoya Camry has disc rotor type brakes all
around, or just on the front wheels and with standard brake drumson the rear
wheels?

What is the average mileage before replacement is needed for both front and
rear?

Anything else you think I should check as far as engine, drive,
transmission, etc.?

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> Panos Popadopalous, 4/20/2005, 9:42:41 AM,
> <d45m8i02ki0@enews2.newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> I am looking into buying a used Toyota Camry LE probably 2000, 2001,
>> or 2002.
>>
>> I recall seeing something about the Owner's Manual calling for
>> changing the timing chain at 50,000 miles. Is this true?
>>
>> Also it was mentioned that at same time it was a good idea to change
>> the water punp,and some other parts.
>>
>> I would have to have this done at a dealer or a suitable repair shop.
>>
>> What would a job like this cost?
>>
>> Can anyone give me an answer to all the above questions?

>
> I believe 4 cylinder models are scheduled for 60K mile timing BELT
> replacement and 6 cylinder ones at 90K miles. My 94 Camry had 162K
> miles with original water pump. My 97 has 103K miles with original
> water pump. Each time the dealer has looked at the pump and said it
> need not be replaced. Prices at dealer are $150 to $200 depending on 4
> or 6. Sometimes they have coupons. Somewhere else will be
> approximately $50 cheaper.
>
> --
> No matter what happens, someone will find a way to take it too
> seriously.


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Old 21 Apr 2005, 09:31 am   #10 (permalink)
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"Panos Popadopalous" <panos@athens.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your reply, badgolferman.
>
> I am considering a 2002 Camry LE with 68,000 miles, so your reply was very
> helpful.
>
> Owner says it needs two new front tires. I am guessing $100 each including
> tire, valve stem, and installation. Is this enough? or way too high?
>
> I am going to check his owner's manual and his repair and maintenance
> bills to see what is required and what he has actually done. Such as
> brake jobs, wheel alignment, etc.
>


You should use the same tires as already on the car if you are just
replacing 2 of them. So that will largely determine the cost. But you can
usually buy very good tires for $100 each installed.

Brake jobs and wheel alignments are not scheduled maintenance items. Have
someone inspect the brakes. Look at the evenness of the tire tread wear and
test drive the car to determine if an alignment is needed. Only very rarely
is a rear alignment needed. However, severely uneven tread wear can also be
caused by suspension problems, such as caused by an accident, so check the
accident records of any used car you purchase.


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