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Old 02 Aug 2005, 08:28 am   #1 (permalink)
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Daughter had flat tire (radial) took it to repair shop. Asked how long
to plug it? The gent haughtily replied "No one plugs tires anymore,
it's unsafe. Patching is all that's done." OK................

Went to the hardware store next door, bought a plug kit, 99 cents, used
the stations free air and did it myself, home in 15 minutes.

Worked my way through college (30 years ago) in a service station,
radials had been around for about 10 years, but plugging was all we ever
did. What's changed? Teach an old dog a new trick.

BTW; Kid's car stays pretty well in town, no long highway trips. Maybe
65 mph for 10-15 minutes max.

Thanks
Mark

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Old 02 Aug 2005, 11:42 am   #2 (permalink)
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I've plugged my own for years - never a problem. I fail to see how it's
"unsafe".

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Old 02 Aug 2005, 04:43 pm   #3 (permalink)
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A plug was always considered a temporary repair. Many tire dealers in my
area will patch a tire for free.


"pheasant" <kiavan02@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Daughter had flat tire (radial) took it to repair shop. Asked how long to
> plug it? The gent haughtily replied "No one plugs tires anymore, it's
> unsafe. Patching is all that's done." OK................
>
> Went to the hardware store next door, bought a plug kit, 99 cents, used
> the stations free air and did it myself, home in 15 minutes.
>
> Worked my way through college (30 years ago) in a service station, radials
> had been around for about 10 years, but plugging was all we ever did.
> What's changed? Teach an old dog a new trick.
>
> BTW; Kid's car stays pretty well in town, no long highway trips. Maybe 65
> mph for 10-15 minutes max.
>
> Thanks
> Mark
>



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Old 02 Aug 2005, 05:04 pm   #4 (permalink)
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pheasant wrote:
> Daughter had flat tire (radial) took it to repair shop. Asked how
> long to plug it? The gent haughtily replied "No one plugs tires
> anymore, it's unsafe. Patching is all that's done." OK................
> Went to the hardware store next door, bought a plug kit, 99 cents,
> used the stations free air and did it myself, home in 15 minutes.
>
> Worked my way through college (30 years ago) in a service station,
> radials had been around for about 10 years, but plugging was all we
> ever did. What's changed? Teach an old dog a new trick.
>
> BTW; Kid's car stays pretty well in town, no long highway trips. Maybe
> 65 mph for 10-15 minutes max.
>
> Thanks
> Mark


While many consider a plug a temporary fix, as you state it has been the
norm for many years. I think most tire shops started getting away from the
plugs when the higher speed rated tires became more popular, or when people
started driving low speed tires at a high speed. :-)
There are plugs now that have an umbrella type patch on them that install
like a plug. The umbrella part spreads out inside the tire and when pulled
tight it seals from the inside. Now you have a double seal and I think
should be safe for any tire except racing. If you are interested I can get
the brand name tomorrow as I think they may only be available from
distributors rather than retail outlets.
HTH, davidj92


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Old 03 Aug 2005, 06:22 am   #5 (permalink)
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"pheasant" <kiavan02@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Daughter had flat tire (radial) took it to repair shop. Asked how long to
> plug it? The gent haughtily replied "No one plugs tires anymore, it's
> unsafe. Patching is all that's done." OK................


Hey All

Thanks for the replies. Guess it's very similar to medicine these days;
Cover Your A##
Now that I've heard from ya'll going back to the hardware store to buy a
couple more plugging kits. Ahh........ some of the old things are still
fun to do.
Mark


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Old 03 Aug 2005, 09:19 pm   #6 (permalink)
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"pheasant" <kiavan02@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:V4-dnY8FZZdv6XLfRVn-jg@midco.net...
> Daughter had flat tire (radial) took it to repair shop. Asked how long to
> plug it? The gent haughtily replied "No one plugs tires anymore, it's
> unsafe. Patching is all that's done." OK................
>
> Went to the hardware store next door, bought a plug kit, 99 cents, used
> the stations free air and did it myself, home in 15 minutes.
>
> Worked my way through college (30 years ago) in a service station, radials
> had been around for about 10 years, but plugging was all we ever did.
> What's changed? Teach an old dog a new trick.
>
> BTW; Kid's car stays pretty well in town, no long highway trips. Maybe 65
> mph for 10-15 minutes max.
>
> Thanks
> Mark
>

My local tire repair guy said that a plug alone (depending on installation
technique and tire) could separate the tread layers and allow an air bubble
to form between the layers. A patch alone could let road water enter and
rust the steel belts. A patch plug (new-fangled combo repair part) solves
both problems for the best repair - no air or water can infiltrate the
tread. For a buck or so extra I think it's worth it.

JustDave


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