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Old 21 Aug 2005, 03:52 pm   #1 (permalink)
stevie
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I need to change my fuel filter on 96 4 cyl Camry.

It looks like the filter is located on the drivers side near, and slightly
below the air filter. Is this correct?

How big of a job is it to remove and replace the fuel filter on this car?
A brief examination looks as though it might be difficult to get to the
filter.

I have a Chilton manual, but it isn't real clear.


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Old 21 Aug 2005, 05:19 pm   #2 (permalink)
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I had a heck of a time trying to do mine. The bottom nut is a bear, as
I've heard from others too. Dan the Man suggests a good kroil soaking
first. Better access and leverage (with your flare nut wrenches)if you
remove the air filter assembly and the charcoal cannister. I would either
leave it alone or take it to a dealer. Best wishes.

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Old 21 Aug 2005, 08:44 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Stevie, If your only going to change it because Chiltons says to then its
uneccessary.
My Haynes says I should replace mine at 30k.[2000 Camry] I went to the
Dealer to buy one and the parts guy says you might want to reconsider
since Toyota says they'll last lifetime of the car.Can you imagine that,
turning down money!
Anyway, reading past posts here pretty much verifies it. I saw one where a
guy with 150k decided to go ahead and replace it and he cut up the old one
and it was fine and could have stayed in service.
I dont know why Haynes calls for 30k replacement.Toyota maintenaince guide
never even mentions fuel filter.If something got in your gas I suppose it
could become neccessary.But for just routine maintenance I dont think so.

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Old 21 Aug 2005, 09:40 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: fuel filter

thanks for those replies.

i was just going to do this as a maintenance item, but i may hold off, at
least for now.

has 147000 miles. don't know if fuel filter has ever been changed.
purchased new in 96.
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Stevie, If your only going to change it because Chiltons says to then its
uneccessary.
My Haynes says I should replace mine at 30k.[2000 Camry] I went to the
Dealer to buy one and the parts guy says you might want to reconsider
since Toyota says they'll last lifetime of the car.Can you imagine that,
turning down money!
Anyway, reading past posts here pretty much verifies it. I saw one where a
guy with 150k decided to go ahead and replace it and he cut up the old one
and it was fine and could have stayed in service.
I dont know why Haynes calls for 30k replacement.Toyota maintenaince guide
never even mentions fuel filter.If something got in your gas I suppose it
could become neccessary.But for just routine maintenance I dont think so.


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Old 22 Aug 2005, 03:12 am   #5 (permalink)
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It's not about the filter you have in the car, its the gas that passes
through it. Unless you are sure every tank of gas you ever got was
without contaminants, change it every 30K miles.

The fuel filter is very easy to replace. If you haven't changed it
since 96 I'll say do it. Fuel filters are cheaper than fuel pumps.

One way to make sure if you need it is to measure the current draw on
your fuel pump. I don't recall what numbers you should look for, but
for example if you measured 150mA instead of 30mA, then it's long
overdue.


stevie wrote:
> I need to change my fuel filter on 96 4 cyl Camry.
>
> It looks like the filter is located on the drivers side near, and slightly
> below the air filter. Is this correct?
>
> How big of a job is it to remove and replace the fuel filter on this car?
> A brief examination looks as though it might be difficult to get to the
> filter.
>
> I have a Chilton manual, but it isn't real clear.


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Old 22 Aug 2005, 07:45 am   #6 (permalink)
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Sorry John,

The fuel filter is often a rotten b---d to replace. The bottom nut is very
often overtight, and is placed so that leverage cannot be easily applied.
You might have had an easy time, but that cannot be generalised
unfortunately.

Despite approaching mine with a good flare nut wrench and every other
precaution listed here, like Penetrol soaking etc, the bottom nut on mine is
now rounded, and the next step is to decide whether to remove the whole fuel
line with it, or just leave it.

Geoff

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> It's not about the filter you have in the car, its the gas that passes
> through it. Unless you are sure every tank of gas you ever got was
> without contaminants, change it every 30K miles.
>
> The fuel filter is very easy to replace. If you haven't changed it
> since 96 I'll say do it. Fuel filters are cheaper than fuel pumps.
>
> One way to make sure if you need it is to measure the current draw on
> your fuel pump. I don't recall what numbers you should look for, but
> for example if you measured 150mA instead of 30mA, then it's long
> overdue.
>
>
> stevie wrote:
>> I need to change my fuel filter on 96 4 cyl Camry.
>>
>> It looks like the filter is located on the drivers side near, and
>> slightly
>> below the air filter. Is this correct?
>>
>> How big of a job is it to remove and replace the fuel filter on this car?
>> A brief examination looks as though it might be difficult to get to the
>> filter.
>>
>> I have a Chilton manual, but it isn't real clear.

>



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Old 22 Aug 2005, 10:19 am   #7 (permalink)
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Put some anti-sieze on the fuel line threads. Be careful not to get
any inside the fuel line.
This should help things next time.

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Old 23 Aug 2005, 06:58 pm   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: fuel filter-Geoff

Geoff - same situation with mine. It's been about a year with no adverse
effects, and I'm keeping the car, not selling, so unless some money floats
my way, that's how it'll stay.

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Old 24 Aug 2005, 06:25 pm   #9 (permalink)
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Didn't have time to reply earlier, but here's how I did my 1994 4
cylinder.
Had read about how difficult they can be, and checked with the dealer
for replacement fuel line in case I needed one after damaging the lower
flare nut fitting - said they sell quite a few.
~~~~~~
I digress slightly into the realm of metaphysics:
Once tried removing an extremely stubborn fastener on a lavatory faucet
- had applied all my strength with no result, then with eyes closed,
twisting as hard as possible _thought_ about seeing it loosen, and it
did.
Similar experience with ancient air conditioning lines on my 1977
Toyota pick up truck - a/c service company refused to touch them not
wanting to be responsible for additional work if the condenser were
damaged during removal. I learned on that vehicle to apply Toyota rust
penetrant before attempting to loosen anything, the very large
combination wrench on that fitting "broke it loose" without any adverse
affect, and without much effort.
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Back to the Camry fuel filter.
While Toyota has no official recommendation for replacement interval -
"a lifetime" part, their definition of lifetime could be 100,000 miles.
I don't believe they have listed service intervals for parts
anticipated to last over 100,000 miles.
I suspect the Haynes people have used some generic information in their
book that apply in a general automotive sense but not necessarily to
Toyota. For example their spark plug pictures are not the platinum
plugs required for the Camry.
My best guess, based on Toyota tech recommendations, is to change it at
120,000 miles, so that is what I did.
Saw on another auto group, discussing flare nut wrenches, that they
usually flex. Someone suggested routinely clamping the jaws with vice
grip pliers to overcome this tendency. Another mentioned a flare nut
crow foot wrench that "even worked on Toyota fuel filters" so I ordered
a set from JC Whitney. Turned out they were from China and of fairly
poor quality, though I imagine they might have worked OK. Instead, when
ordering other tools online, like the special tool to remove the cam
seal with limited strut tower clearance (toolsource.com), the customer
service person on the phone mentioned they could sell a single size SK
brand crow foot flare wrench (17mm - I think it was), and I like the SK
tools, so I ordered one.
Quality tools are a joy forever. The quality of this single attachment
for a 3/8" drive extension, was exceptional. Vastly superior to the
other set in finish and fit. Somehow the crow foot configuration is
just made stronger so there is no possible flex when in use. Nice
chrome on the SK, opening properly centered between the jaws.
Read about Kroil in this group and others as being the best rust
penetrant. They've been in business for decades and are suppliers to
many major corporations. So also ordered Kroil aerosol and sprayed that
lower fuel filter fitting when I began major servicing on the car. As
it turned out (no pun intended), it was two days before I got to the
fuel filter, and I think I sprayed it another once or twice.
That lower fitting came off so easily, I couldn't believe all the
difficult stories I'd read. Took less than three seconds, nearly
effortless - and I'm quite sure that was the original 10 year old never
changed original fuel filter judging from the exterior appearance.
Oddly, I had a lot more difficulty with the upper banjo bolt. Had to
use my 1/2" breaker bar, with a "cheater pipe" extension slipped over
the handle, brace myself against an engine component and pry really,
really, hard before it broke loose with a bang sound. No damage though.
And plenty of working room above. Plus, not a flare nut.
So that is my fuel filter experience.
I did remove the air filter box for easier access.

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