question re non-reusable "straight pins" in power steering pump

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Old 21 Sep 2005, 11:20 pm   #1 (permalink)
Gordon
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Default question re non-reusable "straight pins" in power steering pump

My genuine Toyota power steering pump kit arrived today.
It weighs about 30 grams (slightly over 1 ounce). The
contents are: 4 o-rings, 1 gasket, 1 tiny snap ring and an
oil seal -- and they jibe perfectly with the service manual.

However the service manual says twice and clearly that the
two straight pins are "non-reusable", although they are not
in the kit. I'd bet my car that a genuine Toyota mechanic
would reuse the straight pins. Any advice or, better,
experience to share?

Thanks, Gordon

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Old 22 Sep 2005, 07:51 am   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: question re non-reusable "straight pins" in power steering pump

You'll likely have to reuse the straight pins unless you can locate
replacements otherwise. (NAPA generic, or Toyota separate order).
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I remember once rebuilding a carburetor with a genuine Toyota
carburetor rebuilding kit. No base gasket was included. That's the
gasket between the base of the carburetor and the intake manifold to
which it attaches. There is no way to rebuild the carburetor without
removing it and needing a new gasket to prevent vacuum leaks.
Wound up buying a roll of gasket material and carefully fabricating the
shape by gently using a hammer over the opening in the intake manifold.
That gasket is still in there today, years later, and I continue to be
amazed that Toyota supplied the rebuild kit without one.

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Old 22 Sep 2005, 01:25 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"Daniel" <nospampls2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You'll likely have to reuse the straight pins unless you can locate
> replacements otherwise. (NAPA generic, or Toyota separate order).
> ~~~~~~~
> I remember once rebuilding a carburetor with a genuine Toyota
> carburetor rebuilding kit. No base gasket was included. That's the
> gasket between the base of the carburetor and the intake manifold to
> which it attaches. There is no way to rebuild the carburetor without
> removing it and needing a new gasket to prevent vacuum leaks.
> Wound up buying a roll of gasket material and carefully fabricating the
> shape by gently using a hammer over the opening in the intake manifold.
> That gasket is still in there today, years later, and I continue to be
> amazed that Toyota supplied the rebuild kit without one.


The old hammer trick to tap out a gasket has saved me more than once too. I
even found you can buy headgasket (for a small stationary motor or mower) or
exhaust gasket stock as well.

Jason


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Old 22 Sep 2005, 01:27 pm   #4 (permalink)
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"Gordon" <gordon.slishman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> My genuine Toyota power steering pump kit arrived today.
> It weighs about 30 grams (slightly over 1 ounce). The
> contents are: 4 o-rings, 1 gasket, 1 tiny snap ring and an
> oil seal -- and they jibe perfectly with the service manual.
>
> However the service manual says twice and clearly that the
> two straight pins are "non-reusable", although they are not
> in the kit. I'd bet my car that a genuine Toyota mechanic
> would reuse the straight pins. Any advice or, better,
> experience to share?
>
> Thanks, Gordon



Are the pins expanding types which self locate due to their springiness?
These can be used again,..but not more than once I've found.

Jason


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Old 22 Sep 2005, 01:51 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: question re non-reusable "straight pins" in power steering pump

Daniel, if I skip the last disassembly step -- straight pin removal --
then perhaps I can "reuse" the old straight pins. As per your
carburetor kit, the "non-reusable" union gasket (pump to pressure hose)
is absent from the rebuild kit. That's another $5 plus a drive to the
dealer.

The Toyota parts rep explained that the service manual and the parts
manual don't always jibe. He had never heard of straight pins and
wants me to bring my service manual to show him when I pick up the
union gasket. My respect for Toyota has taken a hit.

-Gordon

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Old 23 Sep 2005, 12:58 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Don't lose confidence in Toyota parts - they are still excellent, but
somehow, seems many people including the dealer service departments
apparently, do not follow the factory service manuals regarding non
reusable parts.
You're doing the right thing.
I always replace those parts indicated non reusable.
Recently replaced the passenger drive shaft and there were several non
reusable parts that needed to be ordered specially, and I'm glad I did
because the old part had been reused once already - by a prior mechanic
and that "bearing lock bolt" was missing the neoprene tip which
actually held the bearing from rotating.
I think they reused the cotter pin on the tie rod end, too. ( I made a
point of having the new cotter pins and snap ring on hand prior to
starting the work - I'm sure the original snap ring was reused the
first time - who knows if that's a problem, but it does hold the axle
in place, so there's a new $19.93 snap ring from the dealer in there
now)
One of the benefits of doing your own work is that you can take the
time and care to do it properly.
Parts are still first quality, you just need to be aware to order those
non reusable parts separately.
"Distributor packing" is another one I suspect gets changed rarely,
though listed non reusable.

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