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Old 22 Sep 2005, 06:36 pm   #1 (permalink)
ginnaericka
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I just got my license. Weíve had this car for over a year now, bought
it from my brotherís friend. It ran fine. All of a sudden, as I was
driving it yesterday afternoon to my momís house, it started making a
funny sound.

Funny sound as in it sounded like there was gravel inside the engine
every time I hit the accelerator.

I know NOTHING about cars besides where to put the gas and how to
drive one, so non-techincal responses would be helpful.

Anyways, back to the story...

I was driving it, it was making these sounds, then as I turned onto my
street to get home, the SOB up and died on me as I was driving it. The
power steering went out, the gas stopped working, everything shut off.
The lights still worked, though, so I know itís not the battery.

The AAA guy said it MIGHT be the alternator, but he wasnít sure, so
tomorrow Iím getting it diagnosed at Car Care Plus (a AAA facility),
but I need to know...how much are alternator replacements going for
these days? My mom said sheíd help out up to $500. After that, weíre
screwed.

Thanks.

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Old 22 Sep 2005, 08:19 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds like the water pump. The 'gravel' description is spot-on as to what
a bad water pump bearing sounds like. Since it is driven by the timing
belt, once it breaks the tbelt is rendered useless, and the engine shuts
off. As far as the bill, you should be able to find a shop to do a water
pump tbelt job for less than 500.

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Old 22 Sep 2005, 10:38 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"" wrote
> Sounds like the water pump. The 'gravel' description is
> spot-on as to what
> a bad water pump bearing sounds like. Since it is driven by
> the timing
> belt, once it breaks the tbelt is rendered useless, and the
> engine shuts
> off. As far as the bill, you should be able to find a shop to
> do a water
> pump tbelt job for less than 500


Sooo...does this mean itís the timing belt or the pump itself? And
does it mean itís broken or out of water? God, I wish I knew something
about cars.

Why do water pumps break? I mean, what causes it? Oldness? Lack of a
tune-up on time? Poor craftsmanship?

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Old 23 Sep 2005, 07:06 am   #4 (permalink)
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 22:38:19 -0500, ginnaericka
<UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote:

>"" wrote:
> > Sounds like the water pump. The 'gravel' description is
> > spot-on as to what
> > a bad water pump bearing sounds like. Since it is driven by
> > the timing
> > belt, once it breaks the tbelt is rendered useless, and the
> > engine shuts
> > off. As far as the bill, you should be able to find a shop to
> > do a water
> > pump tbelt job for less than 500.

>
>Sooo...does this mean itís the timing belt or the pump itself? And
>does it mean itís broken or out of water? God, I wish I knew something
>about cars.
>

The timing belt also drives the water pump. Sometimes when the pump
goes out catastrophically it takes the timing belt with it. It means
it's broken. Rather common.

>Why do water pumps break? I mean, what causes it? Oldness? Lack of a
>tune-up on time? Poor craftsmanship?


They just wear out in time like every other part on a car.
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Old 23 Sep 2005, 08:56 pm   #5 (permalink)
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how about checking the engine oil, if the car is not overheating or leaking
antifreeze then it aint the water pump

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Old 24 Sep 2005, 07:47 am   #6 (permalink)
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Just because there is no leaking coolant doesn't mean there is not a pump
issue. The bearing & pulley can shear off with out leaking anything.

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Old 24 Sep 2005, 04:00 pm   #7 (permalink)
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then the cars cooling system would show signs of pump malfunction. still,
this person said there is noise coming from the engine and it hasnt been
driven in a while. shes not that mechanically inclined to as a place to
start, she should at least check the oil

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Old 24 Sep 2005, 07:47 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 08:47:19 -0400, qslim wrote:

> Just because there is no leaking coolant doesn't mean there is not a pump
> issue. The bearing & pulley can shear off with out leaking anything.


I had an '80 Corolla Coupe making a hell of a racket in 1984. Thought the
bottom end was just going to drop one day.

Water pump...

no other signs, no overheating, no leaking. Just a rattle coming from Hell
as the bearings chewed themselves to oblivion.
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Old 25 Sep 2005, 12:36 pm   #9 (permalink)
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"" wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 22:38:19 -0500, ginnaericka
> <UseLinkToEmail@AutoForumz.com> wrote:
>
> >"" wrote:
> > > Sounds like the water pump. The 'gravel' description is
> > > spot-on as to what
> > > a bad water pump bearing sounds like. Since it is driven

> by
> > > the timing
> > > belt, once it breaks the tbelt is rendered useless, and

> the
> > > engine shuts
> > > off. As far as the bill, you should be able to find a shop

> to
> > > do a water
> > > pump tbelt job for less than 500.

> >
> >Sooo...does this mean itís the timing belt or the pump

> itself? And
> >does it mean itís broken or out of water? God, I wish I knew

> something
> >about cars.
> >

> The timing belt also drives the water pump. Sometimes when the
> pump
> goes out catastrophically it takes the timing belt with it. It
> means
> it's broken. Rather common.
>
> >Why do water pumps break? I mean, what causes it? Oldness?

> Lack of a
> >tune-up on time? Poor craftsmanship?

>
> They just wear out in time like every other part on a car.


The car is at AAA now, and the guy said it could be the water pump
(hasnít looked at it yet) and that could be $450-$500, OR, the timing
belt f***ed up, broke the water pump, and took out some valves with
it, in which case, the head would have to be sent out and fixed, which
would cost roughly $1200.

Weíre this close to just buying a new car instead. If itís more than
$600, it wouldnít be worth it, since itís got like 230336 miles on it
anyways.

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Old 25 Sep 2005, 12:36 pm   #10 (permalink)
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"" wrote:
> then the cars cooling system would show signs of pump
> malfunction. still,
> this person said there is noise coming from the engine and it
> hasnt been
> driven in a while. shes not that mechanically inclined to as
> a place to
> start, she should at least check the oil


My mom checked the oil first thing. The car wasnít heating up. It had
gas in it. It had PLENTY of oil.

I never said the car hadnít been driven in a while. I had driven it
every single day to and from work for the last three weeks, or as long
as Iíve had my license.

The mechanics at AAA even said it was the water pump. Why would they
replace the water pump and timing belt if it wasnít broken to begin
with? I highly doubt the folks at AAA would try to lose their own
members by ripping them off like that. My mom, who knows more about
cars than most men, told me right off the bat that it was probably
something to do with the timing belt. The water pump, she did not say.
Then again, she doesnít know much about Toyotas, so for all she knew,
it was only the timing belt.

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