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Old 02 Oct 2005, 05:55 pm   #1 (permalink)
JM
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Default Auto Trasmission ?

I asked this question about a month ago but never got much in the way of
replies
other than check engine mountings.Which seem fine.

I have had my 1995 2.2 Auto CAMRY from new.
It has 75.000 miles on it now.
Never been abused.
Always been serviced in time.
Auto gear box has had 4 Fluid changes during that time all by TOYOTA main
dealer.

For as long as I can remember when I was selecting either D or R from N.
There was a "kick "as if some thing was engaging.
But of late that has got less.
Now the "Kick" on D/R selection is just perceptible.

It drives like it always has
I don't notice any slip or odd things.
I go up a fairly steep hill once a weeks and all seems fine.

However I am somewhat concerned about the absence of this "kick" missing.
I am in fact a little nervous now of long journeys because of the change.
Gear changes are as always have been.
I have never ever wondered
about its reliability in the 10 years I have had it.

Is something wear out ?
or wearing in , getting smoother ?
Do I have a problem ?

My son has a Mitzi Corisma
there is just a perceptible "Kick" on that one.
My son says it has never been any thing else.

Am I concerned unnecessarily ?

Johnny UK


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Old 02 Oct 2005, 06:54 pm   #2 (permalink)
Vash the Stampede
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On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:55:56 +0100, JM wrote:

> I asked this question about a month ago but never got much in the way of
> replies
> other than check engine mountings.Which seem fine.
>
> I have had my 1995 2.2 Auto CAMRY from new.
> It has 75.000 miles on it now.
> Never been abused.
> Always been serviced in time.
> Auto gear box has had 4 Fluid changes during that time all by TOYOTA main
> dealer.
>
> For as long as I can remember when I was selecting either D or R from N.
> There was a "kick "as if some thing was engaging.
> But of late that has got less.
> Now the "Kick" on D/R selection is just perceptible.
>
> It drives like it always has
> I don't notice any slip or odd things.
> I go up a fairly steep hill once a weeks and all seems fine.
>
> However I am somewhat concerned about the absence of this "kick" missing.
> I am in fact a little nervous now of long journeys because of the change.
> Gear changes are as always have been.
> I have never ever wondered
> about its reliability in the 10 years I have had it.
>
> Is something wear out ?
> or wearing in , getting smoother ?
> Do I have a problem ?
>
> My son has a Mitzi Corisma
> there is just a perceptible "Kick" on that one.
> My son says it has never been any thing else.
>
> Am I concerned unnecessarily ?
>
> Johnny UK



You SHOULD have been more concerned about the 'kick'! I have never had a
Toyota A/T do that unless it was in tough shape!
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Old 02 Oct 2005, 07:25 pm   #3 (permalink)
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I wouldnt worry about that. Just keep yout service up and just continue to
enjoy your car. Scott

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Old 03 Oct 2005, 03:37 am   #4 (permalink)
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Check the ATF fluid level. Shifting from N into D or R should give a
kick within about 1 second (can't reacall the exact spec).

If I were you I'll also drop the pan, clean it, replace the gasket AND
the strainer. Don't try to clean the strainer. It may be restricting
fluid flow and lowering the ATF line pressure.

Also check the transmission linkage and make sure it is properly
adjusted. Your Haynes manual comes in handy here.

If these don't fix it, there may be some wear in the tranny. But
usually not both D (forward) and R (reverse) at the same time. So I'll
start with the simple ones above.

JM wrote:
> I asked this question about a month ago but never got much in the way of
> replies
> other than check engine mountings.Which seem fine.
>
> I have had my 1995 2.2 Auto CAMRY from new.
> It has 75.000 miles on it now.
> Never been abused.
> Always been serviced in time.
> Auto gear box has had 4 Fluid changes during that time all by TOYOTA main
> dealer.
>
> For as long as I can remember when I was selecting either D or R from N.
> There was a "kick "as if some thing was engaging.
> But of late that has got less.
> Now the "Kick" on D/R selection is just perceptible.
>
> It drives like it always has
> I don't notice any slip or odd things.
> I go up a fairly steep hill once a weeks and all seems fine.
>
> However I am somewhat concerned about the absence of this "kick" missing.
> I am in fact a little nervous now of long journeys because of the change.
> Gear changes are as always have been.
> I have never ever wondered
> about its reliability in the 10 years I have had it.
>
> Is something wear out ?
> or wearing in , getting smoother ?
> Do I have a problem ?
>
> My son has a Mitzi Corisma
> there is just a perceptible "Kick" on that one.
> My son says it has never been any thing else.
>
> Am I concerned unnecessarily ?
>
> Johnny UK


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Old 03 Oct 2005, 09:45 am   #5 (permalink)
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Check the ATF fluid level.
~~~
Agree. Best place to begin. Drive min. 10 miles to fully warm first,
shift through gears, then check dip stick with engine idling.

drop the pan, clean it, replace the gasket AND
the strainer. Don't try to clean the strainer. It may be restricting
fluid flow and lowering the ATF line pressure.
~~~~~
Don't agree with any of that. (sorry)
If the fuild has been changed four times in 75,000 miles, (once every
18, 750) there should be no problem with the strainer.
I would not recommend changing the gakset unless there is seepage or
leaking.
Gnereal recommendation is to change the fluid every 30,000 miles, so if
he has been changing roughly every 20,000 miles, fluid should be good.
Keeping the fluid clean is a very good idea.

check the transmission linkage and make sure it is properly
adjusted
~~~~~~
If he is noticing slight differences in shift behaviour, would probably
notice changes in shift linkage behaviour having owned the car since
new. If the mark (next to the shift position) is aligned with the gear
position indicator on the console, and the transmission gear selector
physically moves without restriction into the detents for each gear,
adjustment should not be required at 75,000 miles.

Back to #1.
Check the fluid level first.

The ECM (computer) alters engine speed during shifting.
If the fluid is clean (red or pink, not brown) and the level is
correct, no further action should be required.
If the fluid had been neglected - for example not changed regularly,
then I would agree with the points mentioned above, except the strainer
should be able to be cleaned.

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Old 03 Oct 2005, 11:17 am   #6 (permalink)
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"Daniel" <nospampls2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Check the ATF fluid level.
> ~~~
> I would not recommend changing the gakset unless there is seepage or
> leaking.
> Gnereal recommendation is to change the fluid every 30,000 miles, so if
> he has been changing roughly every 20,000 miles, fluid should be good.
> Keeping the fluid clean is a very good idea.
>
> check the transmission linkage and make sure it is properly
> adjusted
> ~~~~~~
> If he is noticing slight differences in shift behaviour, would probably
> notice changes in shift linkage behaviour having owned the car since
> new. If the mark (next to the shift position) is aligned with the gear
> position indicator on the console, and the transmission gear selector
> physically moves without restriction into the detents for each gear,
> adjustment should not be required at 75,000 miles.
>
> Back to #1.
> Check the fluid level first.
>
> The ECM (computer) alters engine speed during shifting.
> If the fluid is clean (red or pink, not brown) and the level is
> correct, no further action should be required.
> If the fluid had been neglected - for example not changed regularly,
> then I would agree with the points mentioned above, except the strainer
> should be able to be cleaned.


Hi Daniel,
Thank you for taking the time to reply.

I don't notice any other change other than the " missing kick " from N to D
or R.
The rest seems to be as it always has for the last 10 years I have had it.
Gear change seems free, no binding ( I am retired engineer )
I just checked the fluid after about 20 miles.
It does look a little high.
But the missing kick is any time.
Straight cold from garage after overnight.
Or after miles use.

Bit of a mystery.
Wonder if its worth a fluid change again.
But I doubt it.

As I say my sons Mitzi has never had any kick to notice.

Thanks for the rest of the replies.
Its a nice group.

THANKS TO ALL.

Johnny UK.



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