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Old 05 Oct 2005, 07:54 pm   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 92 camry 4 cylinder. Started having a strange intermittent
starting problem. Car cranks over quickly, doesn't fire. Don't really know
where to start. Has this particular problem been seen before? Also when
accellerating quickly, car hesitates. Could this be a fuel problem?
Ignition? The computer doesn't throw any codes. Please give me some
direction.


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Old 05 Oct 2005, 08:00 pm   #2 (permalink)
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 19:54:52 -0500, farmerboy wrote:

> I have a 92 camry 4 cylinder. Started having a strange intermittent
> starting problem. Car cranks over quickly, doesn't fire. Don't really know
> where to start. Has this particular problem been seen before? Also when
> accellerating quickly, car hesitates. Could this be a fuel problem?
> Ignition? The computer doesn't throw any codes. Please give me some
> direction.



Indication of a blown Timing Belt. When was the last time you changed it>

At the front of the engine, there is a black plastic cover. If you're
mechanically inclined, loosen the cover so you can see the belt.

Last one I saw that exhibited the conditions you just described was all
cracked and had teeth missing. When you see it, you'll know!

Toyota dealers usually have specials for $179 for 4 cyl, $229 for sixes.
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Old 06 Oct 2005, 01:18 am   #3 (permalink)
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farmerboy wrote:
> I have a 92 camry 4 cylinder. Started having a strange intermittent
> starting problem. Car cranks over quickly, doesn't fire. Don't
> really know where to start. Has this particular problem been seen
> before? Also when accellerating quickly, car hesitates. Could this
> be a fuel problem? Ignition? The computer doesn't throw any codes.
> Please give me some direction.


Does this happen more when it's humid outside?
If it does, you might have a problem with your ignition coil.
Also, if the hesitation only occurs the first few kilometers after a cold
start, this might confirm that it's a coil problem (we had to replace ours a
few years ago, 'hesitation' was the first symptom).

Luc K


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Old 06 Oct 2005, 11:53 am   #4 (permalink)
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"Luc Kumps" <NOkumpsSPAM@pandora.be> wrote in message
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> farmerboy wrote:
>> I have a 92 camry 4 cylinder. Started having a strange intermittent
>> starting problem. Car cranks over quickly, doesn't fire. Don't
>> really know where to start. Has this particular problem been seen
>> before? Also when accellerating quickly, car hesitates. Could this
>> be a fuel problem? Ignition? The computer doesn't throw any codes.
>> Please give me some direction.

>
> Does this happen more when it's humid outside?
> If it does, you might have a problem with your ignition coil.
> Also, if the hesitation only occurs the first few kilometers after a cold
> start, this might confirm that it's a coil problem (we had to replace ours
> a
> few years ago, 'hesitation' was the first symptom).
>
> Luc K
>
>Belt was replaced 3 months ago, no problems until a couple of weeks ago. I
>will check the belt anyway. Tried starting the car this morning, started
>right away like it usually does. Hoping it wouldn't so I could check for
>spark. Going to check ignition coil, and pickup coil. Is there any way to
>check the ignighter?



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Old 06 Oct 2005, 12:15 pm   #5 (permalink)
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farmerboy wrote:
>>Going to check ignition coil, and pickup coil.


In August 2003, "Fred" offered the advice below on this newsgroup. Perhaps
it's useful to you...

Luc K
==============================
I wrote this as a followup in a thread above, but decided it is useful and
important enough for a new thread. Anyone with an older Camry is likely
to have to deal with this sooner or later, and may spend big bucks
unnecessarily.

The Problem:
Here's a classic story with older Camrys. The car starts fine and may run
okay for a few minutes. But then as it starts to warm up, it begins
hesitating on acceleration and/or stalling at stoplights. When it is fully
warmed up the behavior goes away. The problem is usually worse after a
rain or in humid weather. Once it starts happening, it gets more and more
severe rather quickly. This one baffles mechanics, who often wind up
replacing a series of expensive parts, all to no avail. Ironically, the
true fix is very easy and cheap.

The Cause:
'90 Camrys (as well as several years before and several years after-I'm not
sure of the exact range of years) have the coil inside the distributor-a
bad idea. I don't know when they stopped doing that. When the engine
starts, it exudes moisture (a product of combustion). The moisture
condenses on all surfaces inside the distributor. That's okay when the car
is newish, because distilled water doesn't conduct electricity. But when
the car is older it has a fine film of debri coating all surfaces. When
those surfaces get wet they conduct electricity and the primary coil shorts
out. Then when the car fully warms up, the sufaces dry and the car runs
fine again.

The Fix:
Use isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) and cotton balls or
Q-tips to clean all the surfaces inside the distributor. Take off the
distributor cap and the black plastic shroud that covers the coil (snaps
off and snaps back on). Clean everything with liberal amounts of alcohol.
Don't worry if it drips all over-it drys without harm. Don't be
discouraged if you don't see a lot of dirt on the cotton, were' talking
trace amounts here. Give special attention to the coil wires. Also clean
the inside and outside of the distributor cap while you're at it. You'll
be amazed. You'll have to do this every couple of years now.

Fred


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Old 06 Oct 2005, 01:56 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks, I'll give it a try and let you know. Sounds reasonable.
"Luc Kumps" <NOkumpsSPAM@pandora.be> wrote in message
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> farmerboy wrote:
>>>Going to check ignition coil, and pickup coil.

>
> In August 2003, "Fred" offered the advice below on this newsgroup. Perhaps
> it's useful to you...
>
> Luc K
> ==============================
> I wrote this as a followup in a thread above, but decided it is useful and
> important enough for a new thread. Anyone with an older Camry is likely
> to have to deal with this sooner or later, and may spend big bucks
> unnecessarily.
>
> The Problem:
> Here's a classic story with older Camrys. The car starts fine and may run
> okay for a few minutes. But then as it starts to warm up, it begins
> hesitating on acceleration and/or stalling at stoplights. When it is
> fully
> warmed up the behavior goes away. The problem is usually worse after a
> rain or in humid weather. Once it starts happening, it gets more and more
> severe rather quickly. This one baffles mechanics, who often wind up
> replacing a series of expensive parts, all to no avail. Ironically, the
> true fix is very easy and cheap.
>
> The Cause:
> '90 Camrys (as well as several years before and several years after-I'm
> not
> sure of the exact range of years) have the coil inside the distributor-a
> bad idea. I don't know when they stopped doing that. When the engine
> starts, it exudes moisture (a product of combustion). The moisture
> condenses on all surfaces inside the distributor. That's okay when the
> car
> is newish, because distilled water doesn't conduct electricity. But when
> the car is older it has a fine film of debri coating all surfaces. When
> those surfaces get wet they conduct electricity and the primary coil
> shorts
> out. Then when the car fully warms up, the sufaces dry and the car runs
> fine again.
>
> The Fix:
> Use isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) and cotton balls or
> Q-tips to clean all the surfaces inside the distributor. Take off the
> distributor cap and the black plastic shroud that covers the coil (snaps
> off and snaps back on). Clean everything with liberal amounts of alcohol.
> Don't worry if it drips all over-it drys without harm. Don't be
> discouraged if you don't see a lot of dirt on the cotton, were' talking
> trace amounts here. Give special attention to the coil wires. Also clean
> the inside and outside of the distributor cap while you're at it. You'll
> be amazed. You'll have to do this every couple of years now.
>
> Fred
>
>



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Old 06 Oct 2005, 08:57 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: intermittent starting problem 92 camry

Recently had a similar problem with my '92 as well. In my case it
turned out to be the fuel pump
starting to fail, then I finally had to replace it and the filter.
Cost around $400 for a Toy dealer to
replace, really couldn't complain after 286,000 miles.

Best

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Old 10 Oct 2005, 05:05 pm   #8 (permalink)
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When mine started hesitating under acceleration the fault was in the plug
leads.
Also, how many Km has the car gone. Are the plugs near the end of their
life.
The intermittent difficulty may be something else.
John

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> farmerboy wrote:
>> I have a 92 camry 4 cylinder. Started having a strange intermittent
>> starting problem. Car cranks over quickly, doesn't fire. Don't
>> really know where to start. Has this particular problem been seen
>> before? Also when accellerating quickly, car hesitates. Could this
>> be a fuel problem? Ignition? The computer doesn't throw any codes.
>> Please give me some direction.

>
> Does this happen more when it's humid outside?
> If it does, you might have a problem with your ignition coil.
> Also, if the hesitation only occurs the first few kilometers after a cold
> start, this might confirm that it's a coil problem (we had to replace ours
> a
> few years ago, 'hesitation' was the first symptom).
>
> Luc K
>
>



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