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Old 15 Dec 2005, 01:48 am   #1 (permalink)
Built_Well
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It looks like the Aichi Camrys are built in the
Tsutsumi plant, not Tahara. But that's good too. The
Prius is also built in Tsutsumi.

From a maximum reliability perspective, would you buy
the Georgetown, Kentucky Camry or the Tsutsumi
Camry?

Darn, having a little trouble finding out how many
Camrys are built in Tsutsumi...

Hmmm, it looks like there aren't any Siennas built
in Japan at all, but there is something called the
"Sienta" (with a "t") built at the Takaoka plant.
No Avalons built in Japan either, according to
the chart I'm consulting.
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Old 15 Dec 2005, 11:20 am   #2 (permalink)
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"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
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> It looks like the Aichi Camrys are built in the
> Tsutsumi plant, not Tahara. But that's good too. The
> Prius is also built in Tsutsumi.
>
> From a maximum reliability perspective, would you buy
> the Georgetown, Kentucky Camry or the Tsutsumi
> Camry?


IMO, the longevity of the Camrys assembled in Tsutsumi and Georgetown are
going to be pretty much the same. I've driven 30 or 40 of each and cannot
tell the difference.

>
> Darn, having a little trouble finding out how many
> Camrys are built in Tsutsumi...


What difference does the number assembled in Tsutsumi make?

>
> Hmmm, it looks like there aren't any Siennas built
> in Japan at all, but there is something called the
> "Sienta" (with a "t") built at the Takaoka plant.
> No Avalons built in Japan either, according to
> the chart I'm consulting.


The Sienna and Avalon were designed for the U.S. market and are not sold in
Japan.
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Old 15 Dec 2005, 03:49 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Build quality is a function on management not the workers,

mike hunt


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> "Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
> newsan.2005.12.15.02.48.51.88.2584@bbbb.com...
>> It looks like the Aichi Camrys are built in the
>> Tsutsumi plant, not Tahara. But that's good too. The
>> Prius is also built in Tsutsumi.
>>
>> From a maximum reliability perspective, would you buy
>> the Georgetown, Kentucky Camry or the Tsutsumi
>> Camry?

>
> IMO, the longevity of the Camrys assembled in Tsutsumi and Georgetown are
> going to be pretty much the same. I've driven 30 or 40 of each and cannot
> tell the difference.



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Old 15 Dec 2005, 10:34 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Mike Hunter wrote:
> Build quality is a function on management not the workers,
>
> mike hunt


Take another sip and go back to sleep!



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Old 16 Dec 2005, 10:42 am   #5 (permalink)
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We did not really expert that you would be astute enough to know that build
quality is a function of management not the workers. LOL

mike hunt


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>> Build quality is a function of management not the workers,
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>> mike hunt

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> Take another sip and go back to sleep!
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Old 16 Dec 2005, 10:08 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Mike Hunter wrote:
> We did not really expert that you would be astute enough to know that
> build quality is a function of management not the workers. LOL
>
> mike hunt


When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll entertain
your idea.


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Old 17 Dec 2005, 12:06 pm   #7 (permalink)
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As I have already said, we did expect you to be astute enough to know that
build quality is a function of management, not the workers. You are free
to believe whatever you wish . LOL

mike hunt



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> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> We did not really expert that you would astute enough to know that build
>> quality is a function of management, not the workers.
>> mike hunt

>
> When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll entertain
> your idea.
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Old 17 Dec 2005, 04:58 pm   #8 (permalink)
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FanJet wrote:

>Mike Hunter wrote:
>>
>> We did not really expert that you would be astute enough to know that
>> build quality is a function of management not the workers. LOL

>
>When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll entertain
>your idea.


"Mike" is right, on this issue. Management designs systems that
ensure quality. You don't blame "Bubba" for screwing-up the job. You
make it so it's really hard for Bubba to screw it up in the first
place.

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Old 17 Dec 2005, 06:52 pm   #9 (permalink)
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dizzy wrote:
> FanJet wrote:
>
>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>> We did not really expert that you would be astute enough to know
>>> that build quality is a function of management not the workers. LOL

>>
>> When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll
>> entertain your idea.

>
> "Mike" is right, on this issue. Management designs systems that
> ensure quality. You don't blame "Bubba" for screwing-up the job. You
> make it so it's really hard for Bubba to screw it up in the first
> place.


BS. As I said:
"When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll entertain
your idea."
If management hires bubbas, they get what they paid for.

Recent "management" examples:

bush - scew-up of the century.

Carly Fiorina HP CEO. She trashes the corporation and the name, turning it
into a purveyor of junk. When they finally manage to get rid of her, she
leaves with a huge wad of cash and a recommendation.

Condoleezza Rice. While pretending to be our national security advisor,
9/11 happens. Really nothing more than a bush suck-up from Texas, she
miraculously gets promoted to secretary of state.


If given a chance, workers produce quality while management is busily
designing systems that never work. Of course there are exceptions but that's
the rule.



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Old 17 Dec 2005, 07:35 pm   #10 (permalink)
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FanJet, 12/17/2005,7:52:31 PM, wrote:

> dizzy wrote:
> > FanJet wrote:
> >
> > > Mike Hunter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We did not really expert that you would be astute enough to know
> > > > that build quality is a function of management not the workers.
> > > > LOL
> > >
> > > When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll
> > > entertain your idea.

> >
> > "Mike" is right, on this issue. Management designs systems that
> > ensure quality. You don't blame "Bubba" for screwing-up the job.
> > You make it so it's really hard for Bubba to screw it up in the
> > first place.

>
> BS. As I said:
> "When the time comes that management does some of the work, I'll
> entertain your idea." If management hires bubbas, they get what they
> paid for.
>
> Recent "management" examples:
>
> bush - scew-up of the century.
>
> Carly Fiorina HP CEO. She trashes the corporation and the name,
> turning it into a purveyor of junk. When they finally manage to get
> rid of her, she leaves with a huge wad of cash and a recommendation.
>
> Condoleezza Rice. While pretending to be our national security
> advisor, 9/11 happens. Really nothing more than a bush suck-up from
> Texas, she miraculously gets promoted to secretary of state.
>
>
> If given a chance, workers produce quality while management is
> busily designing systems that never work. Of course there are
> exceptions but that's the rule.


With your examples you have made Mike Hunt's case.

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