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Old 15 Dec 2005, 01:55 pm   #1 (permalink)
Built_Well
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FanJet wrote:
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> Anyone ever question this, take a look at Windows.



Having used Linux for 3 years now, I will never
ever switch back to Microsoft. Linux is so much better.
Dare I say "Linux is to Microsoft" as "Toyota is to Ford."
Remember those word association S.A.T. tests?

I won't mind buying either a Kentucky Camry or an
Aichi Camry--I know both are *Excellent* excellent
cars. But I have to admit, I will be leaning a bit
towards the Aichi/Tsutsumi plant.

I didn't make a close, careful examination of my
dealer's Aichi and Georgetown Camrys. For one thing, it
was freezing outside, and I musta spent 20 minutes just
deciding on whether I liked the Salsa Red Pearl or
Lunar Mist Metallic (silver?) better. Still undecided
on that dour red and odd silver. The Mineral Green
Opalescent is kinda nice though. Too bad the
Camrys don't come in Impulse Red Pearl like the
Corollas--now that's a snazzy car color.

I will say this about the two Camrys. I noticed that
all the domestic Camrys had a driver-side fender top
edge point that didn't fully line up with the lower left
edge of the windshield frame piece. I'm not sure
what the official names of these pieces are.
However, in the Aichi Camrys, they lined up perfectly.

I hate to say it, but I think our Kentucky plant's
management may need to look into this?
Come on guys! I know you can do it. You're probably
almost there.

I will be perfectly happy with either a Georgetown or
Aichi machine.

Still haggling over price. Told my local
dealer that I'm willing to spend only $300 over the
18,200 that I can get from a dealer one-hundred
miles away. Local salesman says he isn't going
lower than 18,900. I suppose we'll see at the end
of the quota month if he really isn't budging and
won't accept my 18,500 offer.

Meanwhile the dealer 100 miles away just emailed me
a lower selling price: 17,988 from his original
18,200. Gee, some dealers just try harder, it seems.

I would prefer buying locally, though. If I wait till
the end of the month (or actually January 3 is when the
$500 rebate expires) and my local dealer really does
not budge from 18,900, do you think its likely
Toyota will renew the rebate for January?

Thanks very much.
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Old 15 Dec 2005, 02:21 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Built_Well, 12/15/2005, 2:55:17 PM,
<pan.2005.12.15.14.55.16.402.2962@bbbb.com> wrote:

> FanJet wrote:
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> > Anyone ever question this, take a look at Windows.

>
>
> Having used Linux for 3 years now, I will never
> ever switch back to Microsoft. Linux is so much better.


If Linux is so much better why are your Pan posts not generating the
proper message IDs so they will stay grouped within a tree view of the
conversation? Everyone of your replies are creating new conversations.

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Old 15 Dec 2005, 02:47 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
newsan.2005.12.15.14.55.16.402.2962@bbbb.com...
> FanJet wrote:
>>
>> Anyone ever question this, take a look at Windows.

>
>
> Having used Linux for 3 years now, I will never
> ever switch back to Microsoft. Linux is so much better.
> Dare I say "Linux is to Microsoft" as "Toyota is to Ford."
> Remember those word association S.A.T. tests?
>
> I won't mind buying either a Kentucky Camry or an
> Aichi Camry--I know both are *Excellent* excellent
> cars. But I have to admit, I will be leaning a bit
> towards the Aichi/Tsutsumi plant.
>
> I didn't make a close, careful examination of my
> dealer's Aichi and Georgetown Camrys. For one thing, it
> was freezing outside, and I musta spent 20 minutes just
> deciding on whether I liked the Salsa Red Pearl or
> Lunar Mist Metallic (silver?) better. Still undecided
> on that dour red and odd silver. The Mineral Green
> Opalescent is kinda nice though. Too bad the
> Camrys don't come in Impulse Red Pearl like the
> Corollas--now that's a snazzy car color.
>
> I will say this about the two Camrys. I noticed that
> all the domestic Camrys had a driver-side fender top
> edge point that didn't fully line up with the lower left
> edge of the windshield frame piece. I'm not sure
> what the official names of these pieces are.
> However, in the Aichi Camrys, they lined up perfectly.
>


You just proved my point. The quality of the Georgetown and the Tsutsumi
Camrys is about the same. People mistake "quality" manufacturing as being
perfect when in the manufacturing world, "quality" is adherence to a
tolerance or specification. If the fenders within a production range on all
of the Georgetown Camrys are equally mis-aligned, then the assembly quality
of the fender is perfect but the specifications are incorrect.

> I hate to say it, but I think our Kentucky plant's
> management may need to look into this?
> Come on guys! I know you can do it. You're probably
> almost there.
>
> I will be perfectly happy with either a Georgetown or
> Aichi machine.
>

<snipped most of the part about price haggling>

> I would prefer buying locally, though. If I wait till
> the end of the month (or actually January 3 is when the
> $500 rebate expires) and my local dealer really does
> not budge from 18,900, do you think its likely
> Toyota will renew the rebate for January?
>
> Thanks very much.


For Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., the end of a sales month is the second
working day of the following calendar month. Toyota-to-dealer incentives
are typically stair-stepped. That is, the incentives go up as they reach
pre-determined sales levels. If a dealer is 1 or 2 cars away from getting
the next higher incentive level, then you will get an excellent deal for
that 1 or 2 cars but if he is a long ways away then the deal will not be any
better than the next dealer.

My guess is that Toyota's rebate in January will continue but at a lower
rate.
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Ray O
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Old 15 Dec 2005, 10:33 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Built_Well wrote:
> FanJet wrote:
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>> Anyone ever question this, take a look at Windows.

>
>
> Having used Linux for 3 years now, I will never
> ever switch back to Microsoft. Linux is so much better.
> Dare I say "Linux is to Microsoft" as "Toyota is to Ford."
> Remember those word association S.A.T. tests?


You can say anything you want but this simply isn't accurate.


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Old 24 Dec 2005, 09:36 pm   #5 (permalink)
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you cant compare a car build in japan with the one build in the
us.remember the 4 cyl vega,ford pinto,or any 4 cyl engines built in
usa.they dont last to long.japanise autos are better than us autos.buy
japanise if you want quality.usa 4 cyl dont last to long.i drive a 94
camry with over 300,000 miles.never rebuilt.if you want to throw your
money away,then get an american car(4 cyl).even volvos,bmws,beat any us
car.i hate to admit that but is real.when i heard that they where going
to build or assemble the toyotas in usa,i said,there will be to many
broken toyotas in the streets.of course,you might dissagree with me,but
the americans can not afford to build good toyotas.they will loose the
sale of american cars.so they will build the toyotas american style(with
their technolgy)

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