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Old 13 Jan 2006, 09:50 am   #1 (permalink)
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I've decided I'd rather have a new '06 Camry from Japan instead
of a more stylish '07 Camry from Georgetown--just my personal
preference (I'm sure both cars are great machines).

Of course, the best of both worlds would be to buy the
re-styled '07 *AND* have it come from Japan. But I'm worried
when the '07s become available in March, none will be from Japan?

The Saint Louis dealer 100 miles away told me
they usually only get Japan cars at the end of the year.
What do you all think--any '07 J-cars comin' in March?

Thanks.
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Old 13 Jan 2006, 04:51 pm   #2 (permalink)
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"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
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> I've decided I'd rather have a new '06 Camry from Japan instead
> of a more stylish '07 Camry from Georgetown--just my personal
> preference (I'm sure both cars are great machines).
>
> Of course, the best of both worlds would be to buy the
> re-styled '07 *AND* have it come from Japan. But I'm worried
> when the '07s become available in March, none will be from Japan?
>
> The Saint Louis dealer 100 miles away told me
> they usually only get Japan cars at the end of the year.
> What do you all think--any '07 J-cars comin' in March?
>
> Thanks.


West coast dealers will have them.


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Old 16 Jan 2006, 09:00 am   #3 (permalink)
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One of Toyota's engineers had this to say about the new
6-speed automatic transmission that's available with
the six-cylinder (V6) '07 Camry:

"The old five-speed automatic transmission was much more
expensive than the new six-speed automatic. The new transmission
has 20 percent fewer parts and reduced weight. I don't know how much
less it costs to build, but from the start of development, engineering
was working to reduce parts and increase performance."
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 11:06 am   #4 (permalink)
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Built_Well wrote:
> One of Toyota's engineers had this to say about the new
> 6-speed automatic transmission that's available with
> the six-cylinder (V6) '07 Camry:
>
> "...from the start of development, engineering was working
> to reduce parts and increase performance."


Interesting that he didn't have anything to say about reliability.
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 12:25 pm   #5 (permalink)
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'Available,' does that mean it will be optional or standard equipment?


mike hunt


"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
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> One of Toyota's engineers had this to say about the new
> 6-speed automatic transmission that's available with
> the six-cylinder (V6) '07 Camry:
>
> "The old five-speed automatic transmission was much more
> expensive than the new six-speed automatic. The new transmission
> has 20 percent fewer parts and reduced weight. I don't know how much
> less it costs to build, but from the start of development, engineering
> was working to reduce parts and increase performance."



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Old 16 Jan 2006, 01:17 pm   #6 (permalink)
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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> 'Available,' does that mean it will be optional or standard equipment?
>
>
> mike hunt
>


It looks like 4 cylinder Camrys get a five speed automatic and 6 cylinder
Camrys get a 6 speed automatic.
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 02:39 pm   #7 (permalink)
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> The new transmission
> has 20 percent fewer parts and reduced weight.


(!) Sounds like people may want to pick up a 2006 with the now-proven
transmission before getting a 2007 with a cheap knock-down tranny.

The 07 looks more Frankenstein-ish of styles from other makes (such as
the G35 mix others posted) than innovative. But it's less bland to say
the least.

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Old 16 Jan 2006, 04:21 pm   #8 (permalink)
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<johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > The new transmission
> > has 20 percent fewer parts and reduced weight.

>
> (!) Sounds like people may want to pick up a 2006 with the now-proven
> transmission before getting a 2007 with a cheap knock-down tranny.
>


Fewer parts sounds like a good starting point to me. I'd take this risk, if
I were in the market for a V6 Camry (but I don't need that much power and I
like my fuel economy). I'd rather take a chance on this transmission than a
first-year transmission from Ford. I wonder how those CVTs are holding up?

Still, 6-speeds has got to be reaching the limit for marginal return; it
can't be very much more efficient or useful than a 5-speed. I wonder if it
shifts faster? That might make a difference in performance.

> The 07 looks more Frankenstein-ish of styles from other makes (such as
> the G35 mix others posted) than innovative. But it's less bland to say
> the least.
>


I've only seen photos but I thought it looked good. I'm not a big fan of
the looks of the current Camry. This one looks, somehow, similar but
better.


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Old 16 Jan 2006, 04:35 pm   #9 (permalink)
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"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
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> <johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1137443972.568967.303340@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> > The new transmission
>> > has 20 percent fewer parts and reduced weight.

>>
>> (!) Sounds like people may want to pick up a 2006 with the now-proven
>> transmission before getting a 2007 with a cheap knock-down tranny.
>>

>
> Fewer parts sounds like a good starting point to me. I'd take this risk,
> if
> I were in the market for a V6 Camry (but I don't need that much power and
> I
> like my fuel economy). I'd rather take a chance on this transmission than
> a
> first-year transmission from Ford. I wonder how those CVTs are holding
> up?
>
> Still, 6-speeds has got to be reaching the limit for marginal return; it
> can't be very much more efficient or useful than a 5-speed. I wonder if
> it
> shifts faster? That might make a difference in performance.


I have not seen any technical reports on the 6-speed transmission but my
guess is that there is another planetary gear set. The number of speeds
does not have any bearing on how "fast" a transmission shifts. A fast shift
will be more efficient although the shifts will feel harsh.

As a general rule, more gear ratios will mean better fuel economy and/or
performance. The limiting factor in the number of gear ratios is the extra
weight, cost, and complexity that come with more gear ratios.

I've hear rumors that the next generation Lexus LS will have an eight speed
transmission...
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Old 16 Jan 2006, 05:13 pm   #10 (permalink)
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Like the Fusion, seems the smaller engine could make better use of the extra
gear to help it stay up on the torque curve.

mike hunt

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> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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>> 'Available,' does that mean it will be optional or standard equipment?
>>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>

>
> It looks like 4 cylinder Camrys get a five speed automatic and 6 cylinder
> Camrys get a 6 speed automatic.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
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