2001 Door lock wiring question

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Old 29 Jan 2006, 08:08 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2001 Door lock wiring question

I have a 2001 Camry LE I put a remote starter in. It had two wires for
the doors and directed me to connect the starter unit Lock wire to DARK
BLUE/WHITE, and starter unit Unlock wire to DARK BLUE. The Remote
Starter was a low end unit and used a single button to Lock/Unlock on
the remote. When I hit the button it either locks or unlocks all 4
doors. Perfect. I miss the dual pulse lock/unlock (unlocking only the
driver's door on the first press), but easily accepted it in lieu of
carrying two remotes.

I just purchased a higher end starter/alarm that separates the Lock and
Unlock, and supports dual pulse. It has three wires, but it's
schematic shows it to hook up only the + and - trigger wires, and to
the same wires as the one in there now.

POWER LOCK DARK BLUE/WHITE (TYPE B)
See NOTE *5 @ ORANGE PLUG BOTTOM OF FUSEBOX

POWER UNLOCK DARK BLUE (TYPE B)
SEE NOTE *5 @ ORANGE PLUG BOTTOM OF FUSEBOX

LOCK MOTOR WIRE BLUE/RED (+)
@ ORANGE PLUG, BOTTOM OF FUSEBOX

NOTE *5 the LOCK and UNLOCK wires are 18 gauge and WILL ONLY METER
while turning the Key in the PASSENGER DOOR KEY CYLINDER, they will not
meter when using the power door lock switch.


This got me wondering if the dual pulse is going to work. Digging into
the docs (and they are lacking to say the least) it appears it is not
sending two pulses.. Just one....

This leads me to believe I'm not going to have dual pulse in the new
unit. It will be all 4 lock or unlock when the corresponding button is
pressed. If I'm right, this sucks.

Digging around on the internet, I happened across a wiring diagram on
directwire.com that's slightly different. It lists the same two wires
and the Power Lock and Power Unlock, but it also lists two more..

Lock Motor BLUE/RED
Unlock Motor BLUE

OK.. so maybe I'll need to use the other two wires. 5 minutes of
troubleshooting should answer that (or maybe one of you can even save
me the 5 minutes *hint* *hint*). ;-)

But here's yet another monkey wrench in the gears...

I found another newsgroup posting that says the OEM repair manual lists
them as:

Power Lock: Wht/Red LIGHT GREEN (-)
20 PIN CONN IN DRIVER'S KICK PANEL ***


Power Unlock: Yel/Red DARK GREEN (-)
20 PIN CONN IN DRIVER'S KICK PANEL ***

ARGHHHH!!!

It won't take much to troubleshoot which to connect to if it's one of
the three. I can probably even determine it without stripping any
insulator by probing the wires; or if I'm really ambitious, just open
the door up and trace the wires going to the key lock.

But I'm wondering if it's going to require some type of complicated
relay configuration.. Let's just say.. I'm not feeling extremely
confident tearing the car apart and getting stuck there for a day or
more. Can anyone shed some light on this?


Something else I've found a bit confusing is every piece of
documentation I've found states I should have a transponder in the car,
yet I don't. Can someone confirm whether at least some 2001 Camrys
were sold without transponders? I've had several keys cut, and never
had any problem with them. The good news is at least I didn't have to
deal with.

If anyone can give me some insight, I'd be eternally grateful.

TIA,

Joseph

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