'89 Camry pulling to the right on slippery street

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Old 11 Feb 2006, 11:30 am   #1 (permalink)
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Default '89 Camry pulling to the right on slippery street

( '89 Cam w/194K, 4cyl with auto tran )
Re subject: I noticed pronounced pulling to the right whenever the wheels
started to spin (this was at very low speeds). All the tires are matched
and pressure was matched with the exception of the left rear being a few
pounds low. No uneven wear. I raised front left & right and checked for
play that would indicate worn tie rod ends -- nothing significant. I have
not checked ball joints. The car drives perfectly on dry surface.
Jim H.

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Old 11 Feb 2006, 05:28 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: '89 Camry pulling to the right on slippery street

Sounds like you're describing torque steer. On front drive cars, one axle
is usually longer than the other. The longer the axle, the less torque the
wheel recieves. So since one side recieves just a bit more torque than the
other, the car steers to the weaker side. In your case, the trans is on
the left, so the right side axle is longer than the left.

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Old 12 Feb 2006, 07:25 am   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: '89 Camry pulling to the right on slippery street

Have you ever changed your differential oil, it is separate, have you
checked it recently, a mechanic must do it under the car on a lift. Are
tires the same age.

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Old 12 Feb 2006, 07:26 am   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: '89 Camry pulling to the right on slippery street

Use Mobil Synthetic Transmission Fluid in Differentail, I notice more
mpg, power.

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Old 12 Feb 2006, 11:40 am   #5 (permalink)
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"jimhigh66" <mounthighly@aol.com> wrote in message
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> ( '89 Cam w/194K, 4cyl with auto tran )
> Re subject: I noticed pronounced pulling to the right whenever the wheels
> started to spin (this was at very low speeds). All the tires are matched
> and pressure was matched with the exception of the left rear being a few
> pounds low. No uneven wear. I raised front left & right and checked for
> play that would indicate worn tie rod ends -- nothing significant. I have
> not checked ball joints. The car drives perfectly on dry surface.
> Jim H.



Since you are describing a situation where the car has started
wheel-spin,..its handling during that event is going to be erratic.

As they say in some workshop manuals "revise your driving habits" :-)

Jason


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Old 13 Feb 2006, 07:07 pm   #6 (permalink)
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1. I really don't think it's torque steer.
2. The dealer says the differential fluid and the transmission are one and
the same.
3. Living in the midwest I've been driving on slippery surfaces for over
50 years and have never experienced this type of behavior in a front-wheel
drive car (including this one) before last week.
Jim H.

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Old 13 Feb 2006, 08:04 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: '89 Camry pulling to the right on slippery street

On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:30:39 -0500, "jimhigh66" <mounthighly@aol.com>
wrote:

>( '89 Cam w/194K, 4cyl with auto tran )
>Re subject: I noticed pronounced pulling to the right whenever the wheels
>started to spin (this was at very low speeds). All the tires are matched
>and pressure was matched with the exception of the left rear being a few
>pounds low. No uneven wear. I raised front left & right and checked for
>play that would indicate worn tie rod ends -- nothing significant. I have
>not checked ball joints. The car drives perfectly on dry surface.
>Jim H.
>


This is just a shot in the dark, Jim, but I once had a similar
problem. It turned out to be a partially seized left front brake
caliper, discovered by jacking up the front end and noting that the
left wheel was harder to spin. A new caliper fixed the problem.
Hope that helps,
Fotofreak

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Old 13 Feb 2006, 10:50 pm   #8 (permalink)
m Ransley
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The Trans and differential are NOT the same, 2 different sealed
components, I ought to know I own an 89 model type, I have changed mine.
Dealers can be idiots, get a manual, learn.

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Old 15 Feb 2006, 05:24 am   #9 (permalink)
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Okay.

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Old 16 Feb 2006, 09:56 pm   #10 (permalink)
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Default Re: '89 Camry pulling to the right on slippery street

Thanks all.
I have a Haynes manual that covers a number of years and it mentioned it
but one mechanic expressed doubt and the dealer said no. I'll try to check
it. I'll also check the brake caliper.


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