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Old 25 Feb 2006, 07:43 am   #1 (permalink)
Beth
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Hi, I'm new here and was wondering if anyone knows if something is
wrong. I took my 1998 Camry in for brake adjustment to a Toyota
Dealer. This was Monday that I took it to the dealer. The parking
brake lever is wobbly when I move it from left to right with my hand.
Should the parking brake lever be loose like that? I never noticed it
before as being loose. Also, I have to pull it up way too high and
there's only one click for the parking brake to stay. It was not like
that when I brought it into the dealer Monday. They must of done
something to it to cause it to be loose and high with only one click
for it to lock. I'm wondering, do I have anything to be concerned
about?

Also another question, is it necessary to use the parking brake at all
since I have an automatic?

Thanks for any input to my question?

Beth

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Old 25 Feb 2006, 08:31 am   #2 (permalink)
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Well they messed it up, is it something to worry about, well it should
not be loose as it was not before but it probably works, take it back.

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Old 25 Feb 2006, 08:41 am   #3 (permalink)
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"Beth" <beth45@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Hi, I'm new here and was wondering if anyone knows if something is
> wrong. I took my 1998 Camry in for brake adjustment to a Toyota
> Dealer. This was Monday that I took it to the dealer. The parking
> brake lever is wobbly when I move it from left to right with my hand.
> Should the parking brake lever be loose like that? I never noticed it
> before as being loose. Also, I have to pull it up way too high and
> there's only one click for the parking brake to stay. It was not like
> that when I brought it into the dealer Monday. They must of done
> something to it to cause it to be loose and high with only one click
> for it to lock. I'm wondering, do I have anything to be concerned
> about?
>
> Also another question, is it necessary to use the parking brake at all
> since I have an automatic?
>
> Thanks for any input to my question?


It's not desirable to have to raise the parking-brake that high to get
sufficient braking to hold the car from moving, as it is using almost all of
the available lever action of the handle. They did something wrong, and I
would take the car back to them.

As to the apparent increase in sideways movement of the lever or handle,
this may just be indicative of too little brake action to stiffen the series
of linkages and cables or something else.

Ideally, you should achieve sufficient parking brake by raising the handle
about 4 or 5 inches, as measured at the button-end of the lever. In an
automatic car, the park-brake plays an important part in holding the
vehicle, especially on slopes. The transmission "Park" position will be
enough on flat ground, but on hills or sloping ground, I wouldn't be happy
relying on just that alone as the pawl can slip in some transmissions.

On steep hills, its good practice to not only use the park-brake, but to
point the front wheels into the kerb.

Take the car back and demand they check the park-brake out.

Jason


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Old 25 Feb 2006, 10:42 am   #4 (permalink)
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Hi,
Thanks for the responses you all gave. I appreciate it very much. I
will take it back. They charged me $235.00 just to do an oil change,
brake adjustment, change transmission oil, rotate tires and change the
coolant. I only have 23000 miles on this car but they said I needed
it. Seems a bit too much since the labor for this was $170.00. Wish I
knew a good mechanic because I'm hearing a thump sound when I back up
and accelerate first starting the car to go forward. Could it be the
sway bushings or strut mounts are worn. Also my tires are in real good
shape except that there's cracking of the rubber because they are old
but doesn't have a lot of miles on them. I was thinking about having
them replaced also. The dealer said it wasn't necessary and they are
ok. I'm not wanting to get things replaced if it's not needed. The
car is old but not old in "miles". Maybe the other things are just
wearing down because of age. I've been reading a lot about
troubleshooting my car. The thump is really bothering me and Toyota
dealer doesn't seem to think it's anything to worry about. But, I
don't want to pay them $70.00 just to diagnose the problem.

Anyway, I'm sure glad I found this group and thanks again.

Beth

Beth wrote:
> Hi, I'm new here and was wondering if anyone knows if something is
> wrong. I took my 1998 Camry in for brake adjustment to a Toyota
> Dealer. This was Monday that I took it to the dealer. The parking
> brake lever is wobbly when I move it from left to right with my hand.
> Should the parking brake lever be loose like that? I never noticed it
> before as being loose. Also, I have to pull it up way too high and
> there's only one click for the parking brake to stay. It was not like
> that when I brought it into the dealer Monday. They must of done
> something to it to cause it to be loose and high with only one click
> for it to lock. I'm wondering, do I have anything to be concerned
> about?
>
> Also another question, is it necessary to use the parking brake at all
> since I have an automatic?
>
> Thanks for any input to my question?
>
> Beth


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Old 25 Feb 2006, 10:42 am   #5 (permalink)
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Hi,
Thanks for the responses you all gave. I appreciate it very much. I
will take it back. They charged me $235.00 just to do an oil change,
brake adjustment, change transmission oil, rotate tires and change the
coolant. I only have 23000 miles on this car but they said I needed
it. Seems a bit too much since the labor for this was $170.00. Wish I
knew a good mechanic because I'm hearing a thump sound when I back up
and accelerate first starting the car to go forward. Could it be the
sway bushings or strut mounts are worn. Also my tires are in real good
shape except that there's cracking of the rubber because they are old
but doesn't have a lot of miles on them. I was thinking about having
them replaced also. The dealer said it wasn't necessary and they are
ok. I'm not wanting to get things replaced if it's not needed. The
car is old but not old in "miles". Maybe the other things are just
wearing down because of age. I've been reading a lot about
troubleshooting my car. The thump is really bothering me and Toyota
dealer doesn't seem to think it's anything to worry about. But, I
don't want to pay them $70.00 just to diagnose the problem.

Anyway, I'm sure glad I found this group and thanks again.

Beth

Beth wrote:
> Hi, I'm new here and was wondering if anyone knows if something is
> wrong. I took my 1998 Camry in for brake adjustment to a Toyota
> Dealer. This was Monday that I took it to the dealer. The parking
> brake lever is wobbly when I move it from left to right with my hand.
> Should the parking brake lever be loose like that? I never noticed it
> before as being loose. Also, I have to pull it up way too high and
> there's only one click for the parking brake to stay. It was not like
> that when I brought it into the dealer Monday. They must of done
> something to it to cause it to be loose and high with only one click
> for it to lock. I'm wondering, do I have anything to be concerned
> about?
>
> Also another question, is it necessary to use the parking brake at all
> since I have an automatic?
>
> Thanks for any input to my question?
>
> Beth


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Old 25 Feb 2006, 10:42 am   #6 (permalink)
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Hi,
Thanks for the responses you all gave. I appreciate it very much. I
will take it back. They charged me $235.00 just to do an oil change,
brake adjustment, change transmission oil, rotate tires and change the
coolant. I only have 23000 miles on this car but they said I needed
it. Seems a bit too much since the labor for this was $170.00. Wish I
knew a good mechanic because I'm hearing a thump sound when I back up
and accelerate first starting the car to go forward. Could it be the
sway bushings or strut mounts are worn. Also my tires are in real good
shape except that there's cracking of the rubber because they are old
but doesn't have a lot of miles on them. I was thinking about having
them replaced also. The dealer said it wasn't necessary and they are
ok. I'm not wanting to get things replaced if it's not needed. The
car is old but not old in "miles". Maybe the other things are just
wearing down because of age. I've been reading a lot about
troubleshooting my car. The thump is really bothering me and Toyota
dealer doesn't seem to think it's anything to worry about. But, I
don't want to pay them $70.00 just to diagnose the problem.

Anyway, I'm sure glad I found this group and thanks again.

Beth

Beth wrote:
> Hi, I'm new here and was wondering if anyone knows if something is
> wrong. I took my 1998 Camry in for brake adjustment to a Toyota
> Dealer. This was Monday that I took it to the dealer. The parking
> brake lever is wobbly when I move it from left to right with my hand.
> Should the parking brake lever be loose like that? I never noticed it
> before as being loose. Also, I have to pull it up way too high and
> there's only one click for the parking brake to stay. It was not like
> that when I brought it into the dealer Monday. They must of done
> something to it to cause it to be loose and high with only one click
> for it to lock. I'm wondering, do I have anything to be concerned
> about?
>
> Also another question, is it necessary to use the parking brake at all
> since I have an automatic?
>
> Thanks for any input to my question?
>
> Beth


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Old 25 Feb 2006, 10:42 am   #7 (permalink)
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Hi,
Thanks for the responses you all gave. I appreciate it very much. I
will take it back. They charged me $235.00 just to do an oil change,
brake adjustment, change transmission oil, rotate tires and change the
coolant. I only have 23000 miles on this car but they said I needed
it. Seems a bit too much since the labor for this was $170.00. Wish I
knew a good mechanic because I'm hearing a thump sound when I back up
and accelerate first starting the car to go forward. Could it be the
sway bushings or strut mounts are worn. Also my tires are in real good
shape except that there's cracking of the rubber because they are old
but doesn't have a lot of miles on them. I was thinking about having
them replaced also. The dealer said it wasn't necessary and they are
ok. I'm not wanting to get things replaced if it's not needed. The
car is old but not old in "miles". Maybe the other things are just
wearing down because of age. I've been reading a lot about
troubleshooting my car. The thump is really bothering me and Toyota
dealer doesn't seem to think it's anything to worry about. But, I
don't want to pay them $70.00 just to diagnose the problem.

Anyway, I'm sure glad I found this group and thanks again.

Beth

Beth wrote:
> Hi, I'm new here and was wondering if anyone knows if something is
> wrong. I took my 1998 Camry in for brake adjustment to a Toyota
> Dealer. This was Monday that I took it to the dealer. The parking
> brake lever is wobbly when I move it from left to right with my hand.
> Should the parking brake lever be loose like that? I never noticed it
> before as being loose. Also, I have to pull it up way too high and
> there's only one click for the parking brake to stay. It was not like
> that when I brought it into the dealer Monday. They must of done
> something to it to cause it to be loose and high with only one click
> for it to lock. I'm wondering, do I have anything to be concerned
> about?
>
> Also another question, is it necessary to use the parking brake at all
> since I have an automatic?
>
> Thanks for any input to my question?
>
> Beth


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Old 25 Feb 2006, 10:55 am   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks so very much for your input. I will take the car back. Glad I
found this group.

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Old 25 Feb 2006, 10:57 am   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks for your advice. Definitely will take it back.

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Old 25 Feb 2006, 02:41 pm   #10 (permalink)
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Tires rot from age, sun and Ozone, tread does not make them good. At 5
years I find tires too slippery in wet or snow to be safe regardless of
tread. If they are cracked they are probably crap and dangerous. If you
slip in wet or snow this is why. Tires oxidise get hard and slippery
when old, cracking proves this. I just junked tires that had 50000 miles
of tread left after I did a* 180 in snow. You wont know you needed
good traction till its to late and you hit something. You knock might be
the CV joint, I would not worry mine has done that for 12 years. Also
brakes auto adjust, but not the parking brake.

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