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Old 01 Mar 2006, 01:26 pm   #1 (permalink)
c_shah
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I have 2000 Toyota Carmy CE (55000 miles), I had tranmission flushed at
38000 miles (the work was done using T-tech machine which actually
changed nearly most of the fluid in the system). At 53000 miles when I
went for transmission drain and fill (as per the mechanic this only
remoes 1/3rd of the oil in the system) the draining fluid was appearing
blackish. I had him done the transmission drain and refill but now I am
concerned, I checked the transmission fluid at 55000 miles after
running the engine few minutes the color of fluid is grayish. car is
running fine otherwise..

Does something wrong with the car?

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Old 01 Mar 2006, 02:08 pm   #2 (permalink)
m Ransley
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Flushing machines can make problems by moving dirt to where it will
settle and do damage, change your fluid again by draining. A off color
is a bad sign of wear. Or if the trans cooler is in the radiator it
could be leaking coolant into the trans, but this is just a guess and im
not sure if it would contaminate it. Either way change it even a few
times, was the filter replaced, you can cut it open to see if alot of
contaminents are in it. The filters should stay clean only filtering
minor contaminents.

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Old 01 Mar 2006, 03:19 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks.
One more thing I called my repair shop they told me they can do
transmission service in which they will take out transmission pan,
replace filter and change the fluid inside the pan. around $95 for that

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Old 01 Mar 2006, 03:37 pm   #4 (permalink)
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95 is a bit high for a pan drop 65-70 is normal, have who ever does it
keep the filter for you to cut open. Alot of wear particles mean it is
about worn out.

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Old 01 Mar 2006, 03:49 pm   #5 (permalink)
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But for such a low mileage vehicle, would one expect this kind of
wear???

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Old 01 Mar 2006, 06:18 pm   #6 (permalink)
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I ruined a toy transmission by beating the car with low miles, but
anything can happen.

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Old 01 Mar 2006, 06:40 pm   #7 (permalink)
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After 15000 miles, or rather 7500 miles, the ATF will appear dark. It's
best to drain and refill at a shorter interval (7500) and replace the
strainer/gasket every 15000. Like others said, the flushing machine can
create problems elsewhere in the transmission. Camry's Aisin-Werner
transmission is a low cost, mass produced transmission. As such,
frequent drains, refills and strainer change will help prolong its
service life but it won't last forever.

Sounds like you have never dropped the pan and clean off the sludge
from the bottom of it. It's not a hard thing to do if you are a weekend
mechanic. A Fram kit with cork rubber gasket costs about $10-17 (online
or retail). Just draining and refilling is simpler than an oil change
and costs about $3-4 in fluid. At that price, you can even do it with
every oil change to keep the fluid looking fresh. Make sure you do the
differential fluid (different plug) as well.


c_shah wrote:
> I have 2000 Toyota Carmy CE (55000 miles), I had tranmission flushed at
> 38000 miles (the work was done using T-tech machine which actually
> changed nearly most of the fluid in the system). At 53000 miles when I
> went for transmission drain and fill (as per the mechanic this only
> remoes 1/3rd of the oil in the system) the draining fluid was appearing
> blackish. I had him done the transmission drain and refill but now I am
> concerned, I checked the transmission fluid at 55000 miles after
> running the engine few minutes the color of fluid is grayish. car is
> running fine otherwise..
>
> Does something wrong with the car?


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Old 03 Mar 2006, 02:09 pm   #8 (permalink)
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I work as a Toyota tech, and have never changed a screen/filter on a
Toyota. I would think that a colour off from pink/red is a sign of
wear. I would recommend bringing it back in having it drained again
while looking for metal slivers, and having it refilled. Toyota
transmissions are usually bulletproof, and sweethearts.

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Old 03 Mar 2006, 04:01 pm   #9 (permalink)
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So bart you never dropped a toy pan then either I take it. Nor have you
then cleaned the magnets inside that are there to stop metal shavings
from grinding a trans to shit, or seen a filter full of crap. Did you
ever read a Toy manual, mine says Replace Trans fluid every 15000 miles
if needed. What do you think those replaceable filters are for.

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Old 03 Mar 2006, 05:37 pm   #10 (permalink)
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yeah trans service every 15k is advisable. No never have had to clean
magnets, or have dropped a pan. The drain plug is magnetic, and
collects A LOT of the metal that is shed. I have read what is called
TIS ( Toyota Information Service ) on our shop computer. I am sure
there is a need for them, but like I said I haven't replaced one, and
my parts guy says he has NEVER sold one, so no clue.

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