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Old 05 Apr 2006, 08:04 pm   #1 (permalink)
Charlie
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How long do the belts and hoses in a Camry usually last? Are
replacements as good as the originals? Most likely I will use Toyota
parts. My Camry is a 2000 model 4-cyl with 110K miles, bought in
January of 2000, apparently built in late summer of 1999 in Japan.
Summer is coming again, this car does carpool on Dallas Texas freeways.
I use Mobil-1 synthetic and otherwise try to take proper care. My
belts and hoses are the ones that came with the car new; antifreeze is
Toyota red. I would like to hear from experienced techs, please. And
sorry, only by posting on this newsgroup.
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Old 05 Apr 2006, 08:27 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Replace all belts and hoses and timing belt. I hope you have changed the
coolant before, no im not an experianced "Tech" , so what.

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Old 06 Apr 2006, 07:30 pm   #3 (permalink)
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The life of belts and hoses depend on how well the car is maintained.
Heat is a major source of problem under the hood, and the primary mode
of failure these days for hoses is actually electrolysis from lack of
coolant changes.

If you change your coolant (say with Toyota red) and distilled water at
least every 2 years, then modern Ethylene Propylene Diene Monomer
(EPDM) hoses will last a long time.

Given that, I'd change them out with the timing belt even if they look
fine. I mean ~$15 per hose for an excellent Gates product? Cheap
insurance.

You'll be fine with Toyota hoses, but I personally prefer Gates belts
and hoses.

Gates belts:
http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?br...cation_id=3488


The following site also tells you how to check your hoses ("Give a Good
Squeeze to a Bad Hose"):

Gates hoses:
http://www.gates.com/index.cfm?location_id=541

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Old 07 Apr 2006, 10:46 am   #4 (permalink)
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Johndole Belt life has Nothing to do with maintenance, of course you
cant find a refrence to one. Hose life has little to do with
maintenance, you will clog your cooling system causing more than the few
$ hose value

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Old 08 Apr 2006, 12:59 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Gates Rubber says every 4 years,
but of course they like to sell belts and hoses.
I would say six or seven depending on
the mileage.
Ozone is hard on rubber.

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Old 09 Apr 2006, 08:39 am   #6 (permalink)
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Personally, I prefer the Toyota genuine parts.
Have a Toyota belt awaiting installation on my truck's water pump.
Just counted the reinforcement plies by looking carefully at the side
of the belt.
There are six.
Of course the aftermarket parts will "work" if by that you mean the car
will run.
The question is how well and for how long.
I realize hose are hoses, but there are diffrences in the Toyota hoses.
For example, I once replaced all the vacuum lines with aftermarket.
The genuine Toyota vacuum lines are quite costly.
The cheaper vacuum lines I used do work, but they harden whereas the
genuine vacuum lines stay pliable - because I did buy one section of
genuine Toyota vacuum line and it has aged quite differently.

I live in Southern Calfornia, so presumably there is ozone.
Toyota hoses are twelve years old and still function like new.

Obviously your choice.

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Old 09 Apr 2006, 09:04 am   #7 (permalink)
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Dan, most likely Toy vacume hoses have a high silicone content, pure
silicone hoses are very expensive.

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Old 09 Apr 2006, 09:15 am   #8 (permalink)
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Daniel wrote:
> Personally, I prefer the Toyota genuine parts.

snip

A friend of mine's wife worked at the PPG plant several years back which
supplied windshields and other glass for domestic vehicles, not sure which
of the big three or possibly all of them. PPG was trying to expand so, they
tried to get a contract with Toyota's Georgetown, KY plant to supply
windshields and etc. for them. Bunch of Toyota engineers and honchos toured
plant, looked at final products and declined. Said they had too many flaws,
Toyota considers a wave in the glass a flaw but you see this all the time in
a big three vehicle or aftermarket glass, especially the windshield.
PPG now supplies glass for Toyota but they had to go through some major
changes in their manufacturing process before Toyota would accept them. So,
like you said, Toyota parts are made better, may cost a little more but will
last longer.
Dave


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Old 14 Apr 2006, 12:43 am   #9 (permalink)
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True, most of the statistical failures they show begin around 6 years
or so, probably include the big American V6/V8s. For small engines like
the Camry it'll last longer than that.

6-7 I'll say is about right, with every timing belt change.

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