1992 Camry 6 cyl XLE stalls

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Old 29 Apr 2006, 08:23 pm   #1 (permalink)
mehdi.jaffer@gmail.com
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Default 1992 Camry 6 cyl XLE stalls

Hi,

I am having a problem which I tried to search for but no related topic
found.


My car has 162k miles, we've had it since 86k miles, most of these
miles have been highway miles (from 86k to today)


Whenever I out the car in reverse the RPM drops and sometimes the
engine stalls. Sometimes even when stopped, idleing, the engine
stalls. Showed to to a few mechanics, everyone say something new, this

stupid mechanic just raised the idle causing higher RPM and high fuel
consumption, even harder to brake!! despite him raising the RPM, its
still stalling sometimes in reverse and at traffic lights, I have to
shift it into neutral.


I have noticed that as soon as I start the car for the 1st time in the
day, I dont have this problem for some time, as soon as I have driven
it for a while, it starts stalling!!! so basically in the first 10-15
mins in the morning or initial driving, it usually does not cause
trouble! later in the day or driving after the intial 10-15 mins it
causes this problem!


I hope I have elaborated enough and I hope somone can give me some
advice.


Thanks


Mehdi

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Old 29 Apr 2006, 10:14 pm   #2 (permalink)
m Ransley
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Default Re: 1992 Camry 6 cyl XLE stalls

The coil under the distributor cap is bad but cleaning it of oil residue
might be enough. It is a real common camry issue/

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Old 30 Apr 2006, 09:29 am   #3 (permalink)
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<mehdi.jaffer@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I am having a problem which I tried to search for but no related topic
> found.
>
>
> My car has 162k miles, we've had it since 86k miles, most of these
> miles have been highway miles (from 86k to today)
>
>
> Whenever I out the car in reverse the RPM drops and sometimes the
> engine stalls. Sometimes even when stopped, idleing, the engine
> stalls. Showed to to a few mechanics, everyone say something new, this
>
> stupid mechanic just raised the idle causing higher RPM and high fuel
> consumption, even harder to brake!! despite him raising the RPM, its
> still stalling sometimes in reverse and at traffic lights, I have to
> shift it into neutral.
>
>
> I have noticed that as soon as I start the car for the 1st time in the
> day, I dont have this problem for some time, as soon as I have driven
> it for a while, it starts stalling!!! so basically in the first 10-15
> mins in the morning or initial driving, it usually does not cause
> trouble! later in the day or driving after the intial 10-15 mins it
> causes this problem!
>
>
> I hope I have elaborated enough and I hope somone can give me some
> advice.




From: http://www.all-parts.com/diagnostics...ota-Camry.html

The EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) valve maybe admitting too much exhaust
after warm-up. The EGR does not start working until engine warm-up. EGR has
been around since the mid '70s as an emmision reducer on all types of car
engines.

Not sure where or what it looks like on the early V6, but it apparently has
a plunger which you can observe or 'feel' it operating, which opens the
valve to admit exhaust (a small amount) during certain inlet manifold
pressure conditions to help with emmisions.
It will most likely be a bulbous looking unit with a vacuum line to it and a
pipe to the exhaust. It will also have access to the throttle-body or inlet
manifold.

I got this info by simply putting the year, "V6", "Camry" and "stalling"
into google. You'll get 100s of hits, most of which will not be helpful, but
there will be some that will. Happy hunting!

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Q: Ive been having problems with my 99 Camry 4 cyl lately. When started
(mostly when engines warm already i.e after running an errand and getting
back in car), the engine will crank over fine, then RPMS will drop really
low to about 200-400, then most of the time it will die. one other thing
happened, in the morning when engine was cold, it struggled to crank for
about 5 seconds, sound like it was suffocating, then i release the key, and
it idled to 200 RPM and died. BUT that only happened ONCE. Car has 65 k and
people tell me its possibly an EGR VALVE! could this possibly be the case?



A: Your EGR is the problem with the erratic idle. However, this should not
be effecting the cold starting as you have described.

Having both of these problems together, without looking at the car, my first
guess would be the EGR (find it,disconnect the hose, reach underneath and
compress the plunger.

While it is compressed plug the hole with your finger. The plunger should
not drop down. If it does,the EGR is faulty.)

My second guess would be the Mass Air Flow Sensor. In this case,you should
take take it to a shop. The procedure for testing it would be too much to
describe here.

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Jason


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Old 02 May 2006, 03:53 am   #4 (permalink)
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there is no coil under the distributor for a V6. It is external. It
could of course still be the igniter or coil. But before even
attempting to replace those, I would buy a new set of wires and plugs
first because it is a lot cheaper.

As already mentioned, it may potentially be a bad EGR valve or MAF
sensor. Some other things:

1. Check the air inlet duct from the air filter to the throttle body
for any cracks. These things get brittle after 130K and can leak,
affecting the computer because more air is being taken in than the MAF
sensor indicates.

2. Check for any vaccum leaks in the hoses for the EGR system and its
modulator as well the the EVAP system which purges fuel vapor from the
charcoal canister. The EVAP system has a bimetallic thermovacuum
switch mounted on the cooling manifold up near the front of the
throttle body which is suppose to open when engine temperature is warm.
Check those sensors up there for any damage or split hoses. As well,
this could also be a clogged charcoal canister or maybe a bad gas cap.

3. If you have had a tuneup in the last few months where they may have
replaced the spark plugs, make sure they used the correct recommended
platinum plugs and not Bosch ones which are known to cause this sort of
thing.

4. Some other possibilities:

a) bad oxygen sensor
b) dirty intake and/or throttle body, IACV.
c) bad ECTS sensor.
d) bad TPS (throttle position sensor)

You can try to clean the throttle body/IACV/and intake by getting some
Amsoil Power Foam spray cleaner and spray it into the intake duct while
maintaining engine RPM thru the PCV valve hose (ie. disconnect it
temporarily from air duct).

good luck,

dave mc

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Old 05 May 2006, 10:10 am   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you all for the suggestions.

I have not really done the EGR checking yet, will do so this weekend.

Just wanted to add a point.

The car stall most when in gear, as soon as the RPM drops I shift to
Neutral and that prevents the stall most of the time, when in reverse
it is more common.

Another thing, it failed the emissions test, Could it still be EGV
valve??

Thanks

davemac wrote:
> there is no coil under the distributor for a V6. It is external. It
> could of course still be the igniter or coil. But before even
> attempting to replace those, I would buy a new set of wires and plugs
> first because it is a lot cheaper.
>
> As already mentioned, it may potentially be a bad EGR valve or MAF
> sensor. Some other things:
>
> 1. Check the air inlet duct from the air filter to the throttle body
> for any cracks. These things get brittle after 130K and can leak,
> affecting the computer because more air is being taken in than the MAF
> sensor indicates.
>
> 2. Check for any vaccum leaks in the hoses for the EGR system and its
> modulator as well the the EVAP system which purges fuel vapor from the
> charcoal canister. The EVAP system has a bimetallic thermovacuum
> switch mounted on the cooling manifold up near the front of the
> throttle body which is suppose to open when engine temperature is warm.
> Check those sensors up there for any damage or split hoses. As well,
> this could also be a clogged charcoal canister or maybe a bad gas cap.
>
> 3. If you have had a tuneup in the last few months where they may have
> replaced the spark plugs, make sure they used the correct recommended
> platinum plugs and not Bosch ones which are known to cause this sort of
> thing.
>
> 4. Some other possibilities:
>
> a) bad oxygen sensor
> b) dirty intake and/or throttle body, IACV.
> c) bad ECTS sensor.
> d) bad TPS (throttle position sensor)
>
> You can try to clean the throttle body/IACV/and intake by getting some
> Amsoil Power Foam spray cleaner and spray it into the intake duct while
> maintaining engine RPM thru the PCV valve hose (ie. disconnect it
> temporarily from air duct).
>
> good luck,
>
> dave mc


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Old 06 May 2006, 01:01 am   #6 (permalink)
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"cifp48" <cifp48@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you all for the suggestions.
>
> I have not really done the EGR checking yet, will do so this weekend.
>
> Just wanted to add a point.
>
> The car stall most when in gear, as soon as the RPM drops I shift to
> Neutral and that prevents the stall most of the time, when in reverse
> it is more common.
>
> Another thing, it failed the emissions test, Could it still be EGV
> valve??


Yes,..in fact EGR plays a substantial part in emission control.

Jason


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