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Old 04 May 2006, 09:11 am   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1995 toyota camry front brakes

Ive got a 1995 toyota camry le with the 4 cyl. engine. Ive had it for a
year and its a great car. However, its in need of front brakes. The
brakes are pulsating as I have had with cars with warped rotors in the
past. When braking from speeds it makes a nice "rumble", kinda annoying.
Replacing the brakes and rotors is not a problem for me but there seem
to be so many choices in parts for this car. There are 3 types of brake
pads listed in online catalogues, organic, ceramic, or semi-metalic. Ive
always gone with the semi-metalic ones on other cars. Then there are
many different rotors available too. Im thinking of getting the
Beck-Arnley vented set. Anyone done this before and have any ideas as to
which parts to get? Also, is the warped rotors a common problem with
these cars. I seem to remember hearing that back in the 90's. Thanks.

George
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Old 04 May 2006, 04:02 pm   #2 (permalink)
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"user22" <user22@example.net> wrote in message
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> Ive got a 1995 toyota camry le with the 4 cyl. engine. Ive had it for a
> year and its a great car. However, its in need of front brakes. The
> brakes are pulsating as I have had with cars with warped rotors in the
> past. When braking from speeds it makes a nice "rumble", kinda annoying.


Sounds more like they're so worn there's a scoured area which is grabbing
like warped disks. So they might need skimming or replacing but I'd worry
more about new pads now rather than which sort.


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Old 05 May 2006, 03:47 pm   #3 (permalink)
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user22 wrote:
There are 3 types of brake
> pads listed in online catalogues, organic, ceramic, or semi-metalic. Ive
> always gone with the semi-metalic ones on other cars. Then there are
> many different rotors available too.

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OE is ceramic

I'd stay with the Toyota parts.

The pulsation, some theorize, can actually come from uneven deposits of
brake pad material on the rotors rather than actual warping.

Also, occasionally you need to apply enough pressure on the pedal to
stop firmly. Continual gradual stopping can "glaze" the surface of the
pads. They may last a long time that way but not stop as smoothly or
effectively.

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Old 06 May 2006, 01:14 am   #4 (permalink)
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"user22" <user22@example.net> wrote in message
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> Ive got a 1995 toyota camry le with the 4 cyl. engine. Ive had it for a
> year and its a great car. However, its in need of front brakes. The
> brakes are pulsating as I have had with cars with warped rotors in the
> past. When braking from speeds it makes a nice "rumble", kinda annoying.
> Replacing the brakes and rotors is not a problem for me but there seem
> to be so many choices in parts for this car. There are 3 types of brake
> pads listed in online catalogues, organic, ceramic, or semi-metalic. Ive
> always gone with the semi-metalic ones on other cars. Then there are
> many different rotors available too. Im thinking of getting the
> Beck-Arnley vented set. Anyone done this before and have any ideas as to
> which parts to get? Also, is the warped rotors a common problem with
> these cars. I seem to remember hearing that back in the 90's. Thanks.
>
> George


Mines the same age and there's no warp,..but it doesnt rain much here either
and that is what warps rotors or discs,.uneven cooling driving thru
puddles,..or so they say,..sounds reasonable. Metal pads are savage on stock
discs. If you have steel discs, the metal-pads should be OK, and last
longer.

NB My old Ford has CI discs and they were quite ridged and scored. I fitted
metal top end (price-wise) pads, and in 6 mths the disks were smooth again!

Jason


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Old 06 May 2006, 08:59 am   #5 (permalink)
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If you do the work yourself a new rotor will dissipate more heat and not
warp as easily since there is alot more metal than a turned rotor. Use
what is recomended or your rear brakes will be unbalanced in stopping
power. Warping is common if you do 60-0 stoplights fast. Best is stop
slower, it only takes one good hard stop to ruin the rotor if its
thinned out. Another cause of warping may be after you just do a fast
stop your brake pad is stationary as you wait for the light to go green,
Cooling that part of the rotor unevenly, I try to avoid that by keeping
my foot off the brake , its worked so far.

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Old 06 May 2006, 11:44 am   #6 (permalink)
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Heat, resurfacing, and uneven/wrong wheel lug nut torque are the common
reasons for warped rotors. Resurfacing takes away the metal that could
have help dissipate heat. Uneven torque allows the rotor to flex in the
heating/cooling cycles of braking unevenly. Rapid, repeated heavy
braking or even a sticking caliper would do it.

If the rotors are still above the minimum thickness, consider getting
them resurfaced. About $10 each at the local NAPA service center. Clean
and lubricate your caliper hardware. Make sure the caliper pins glide
freely. Kragen has these little Permatex synthetic gel lub packs for $1
a piece. Normally maintenance one pack per axle is more than enough.
But to clean well and lube I'd use one pack for each wheel.

OE is ceramic. But if the batch Toyota is trying to sell you comes from
"NBK" then you should walk away or tell them to bring out the Akebonos,
marked "AK". Nissins are OK too but they tend to glaze the rotors.

I would just buy Akebono ProAct with integrated shims from your local
parts store. Do check www.rockauto.com for prices. Also see:
www.akebonobrakes.com/aftermarket/index.html

I've also used Raybestos PG-Plus semi-metaliic. Excellent brake
performance and fade resistence. But they are really dirty and do not
last as long (about 50% compared to ceramics), that's why we go the
ceramic route. Raybestos QS ceramics are also excellent and brake very
well, but they are slightly dirtier than the Akebonos.

If you need to replace the rotors, consider Raybestos Vehicle Specific
Metallurgy rotors. I've used their cheaper "red box" Asimco-GS (a.k.a.
Raymold) noised-dampening rotors without problems.

If you use the vented rotors check with the pad manufacturers to make
sure their ceramic pads can go on there. Raybestos has these, but the
Stree Tech Series is probably not available yet for that year of Camry.

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Old 06 May 2006, 04:13 pm   #7 (permalink)
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m Ransley wrote:
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> rotor if its thinned out. Another cause of warping may be after you
> just do a fast stop your brake pad is stationary as you wait for the
> light to go green, Cooling that part of the rotor unevenly, I try to
> avoid that by keeping my foot off the brake , its worked so far.


Mark,
Good tip. I was taught that trick by an old-timer many years ago. I try to
stop far enough back that I can let my vehicle creep forward so the pads
don't sit in one spot for very long. If I can't creep, I shift to neutral or
park and take my foot off the brake.
My youngest brother was plagued by warped rotors, I finally got him to start
doing this and he's had no more trouble with warped rotors since.
Dave


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Old 06 May 2006, 04:21 pm   #8 (permalink)
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Jason James wrote:
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> Mines the same age and there's no warp,..but it doesnt rain much here
> either and that is what warps rotors or discs,.uneven cooling driving
> thru puddles,..or so they say,..sounds reasonable.

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Jason,
I was taught that if you drive through rain or water you need to not use the
brakes as hard as that can cause warpage. I'm sure you've noticed when you
drive through deep water you don't have any brakes. If you drag the brakes
slightly for a very short time, the heat will dry the brake parts enough
you'll have brakes and no part of the rotor will get overheated. Also, the
tips
m Ramsley gives in his post can have an increased effect on wet brakes.
Dave


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Old 06 May 2006, 06:01 pm   #9 (permalink)
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<johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Heat, resurfacing, and uneven/wrong wheel lug nut torque are the common
> reasons for warped rotors. Resurfacing takes away the metal that could
> have help dissipate heat.

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More likely the thinner disk less resistance to warping. I have never
pandered to brakes and had no trouble except on one car where they were
already warped when I got it. I just lived with it and they didn't get any
worse, wasn't really bad... ABS braking before it was invented hey! In the
Volvo NG I frequented last, everyone had trouble with warped rotors. I tend
to think it has more to do with the manufacture than driving, buying new
ones might get you into a different batch and be better.


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Old 06 May 2006, 07:52 pm   #10 (permalink)
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Under-desgined rotors can do the same. Volve is not the only company
and will not be the last. 2002 Camrys, the first year of that
generation, had the same problem, and they ended up getting new rotors.



jg wrote:
> More likely the thinner disk less resistance to warping. I have never
> pandered to brakes and had no trouble except on one car where they were
> already warped when I got it. I just lived with it and they didn't get any
> worse, wasn't really bad... ABS braking before it was invented hey! In the
> Volvo NG I frequented last, everyone had trouble with warped rotors. I tend
> to think it has more to do with the manufacture than driving, buying new
> ones might get you into a different batch and be better.


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