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Old 02 Jul 2006, 11:27 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Service Advisor says my CamPlug is seeping. A couple of hundred to replace.
I don't know what a CamPlug is and whether it's a critical repair. Any help
appreciated.


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Old 03 Jul 2006, 01:33 am   #2 (permalink)
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<psommerhalder@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Service Advisor says my CamPlug is seeping. A couple of hundred to
> replace. I don't know what a CamPlug is and whether it's a critical
> repair. Any help appreciated.

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Is that service advisor so intimidating to you that you were afraid of
asking "What the hell is a Camplug and is it necessary to replace it if it
is "seeping"?
It begins to sound to me like the cousin of a "frammis tube", or a
"Macintosh Chain". (No, I don't know what these fictional items are
either.)


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Old 03 Jul 2006, 06:13 am   #3 (permalink)
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So whatever it is is seeping, so what, unless oil consumption is up
dont worry, that guy just wants your money.

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Old 03 Jul 2006, 08:27 am   #4 (permalink)
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psommerhalder@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Service Advisor says my CamPlug is seeping. A couple of hundred to replace.
> I don't know what a CamPlug is and whether it's a critical repair. Any help
> appreciated.

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There's a rubber (neoprene) half circle shape near the valve cover.
When the valve cover gasket is replaced, FIPG (form in place gasket
material) needs to be applied at four spots around the valve cover
where the curved part over the camshafts meets the flat part and forms
a sharp angle.
If the valve cover was recently replaced and they didn't do this,
that's the source of your leak.
Or, next time the valve cover is replaced, those rubber half circles
could be removed and re sealed with the same FIPG compound. Not a
difficult repair, unless you have the six cylinder with limited access
to the rear bank.
You should be able to see these areas with a flashlight.

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Old 03 Jul 2006, 09:37 pm   #5 (permalink)
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It's not a difficult job for a 4-cyl if you are mechanically inclined
and don't mind working on your car. You need a big socket for the cover
nuts (can't remember 30 or 32mm). Both the valve cover gasket and these
RTV seals will leak with time.

A tube of RTV gasket maker and a valve cover set (with spark plug tube
seals) are about $20 and about 30 minutes of your time taking it slow.


psommerhalder@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Service Advisor says my CamPlug is seeping. A couple of hundred to replace.
> I don't know what a CamPlug is and whether it's a critical repair. Any help
> appreciated.


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Old 06 Jul 2006, 12:15 am   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the great advice, sounds like I should have the valve cover
gasket replaced along with the Camplug. Or just ignore it until it does
more than seep. Thanks again.
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> It's not a difficult job for a 4-cyl if you are mechanically inclined
> and don't mind working on your car. You need a big socket for the cover
> nuts (can't remember 30 or 32mm). Both the valve cover gasket and these
> RTV seals will leak with time.
>
> A tube of RTV gasket maker and a valve cover set (with spark plug tube
> seals) are about $20 and about 30 minutes of your time taking it slow.
>
>
> psommerhalder@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> Service Advisor says my CamPlug is seeping. A couple of hundred to
>> replace.
>> I don't know what a CamPlug is and whether it's a critical repair. Any
>> help
>> appreciated.

>
>



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Old 06 Jul 2006, 02:18 am   #7 (permalink)
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Cam plugs don't need to be replaced. They need to be "reglued" in with
RTV gasket maker. See:

http://www.permatex.com/products/aut...sket_Maker.htm

Also, take a look at AutoZone's free repair guide on valve cover (and
the cam plug, half circle thing in the figures. For 2S-ELC, 3S-FE,
5S-FE, 1MZ-FE engines:

http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBr...3d8013e886.jsp

Note where you have to use RTV for the valve cover gasket. That's where
the edges of the cam plugs are. The plugs themselves are "glued" into
the cylinder head with RTV.

As the others mentioned, if it's only "seeping" and there is little oil
usage or oil running down the back of the engine (near the firewall),
then you are probably OK for a while. But if you have the "city
traffic" smell in the cabin all the time even in fresh-air forests then
engine fumes may be leaking out from the gaskets and even cam/crank
seals into the cabin. I know because changing out even slightly seeping
cam/crank seals can stop the city traffic smell. Yes, I really like
Fel-Pro gaskets and seals:

http://www.federal-mogul.com/afterma...ry=USA&NumIm=0



psommerhalder@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Thanks for all the great advice, sounds like I should have the valve cover
> gasket replaced along with the Camplug. Or just ignore it until it does
> more than seep. Thanks again.


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