How bad is it to run with only four lug nuts on a wheel?

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Old 08 Jul 2006, 09:13 pm   #1 (permalink)
Butzmark
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Default How bad is it to run with only four lug nuts on a wheel?

I just found out I only have four on my left rear wheel.
There's a stub of the stud remaining though the threads are in bad
shape. If I can chase them I'll get a thinner nut on that. I suspect
the studs aren't replacable and I'd have to go with a whole hub.
Anybody know?

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Old 08 Jul 2006, 09:23 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Butzmark, 7/8/2006,10:13:49 PM, wrote:

> I just found out I only have four on my left rear wheel.
> There's a stub of the stud remaining though the threads are in bad
> shape. If I can chase them I'll get a thinner nut on that. I suspect
> the studs aren't replacable and I'd have to go with a whole hub.
> Anybody know?


The studs are replaceable. I have had several on my 94 Camry break in
the past. You should have them replaced.
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Old 09 Jul 2006, 10:21 am   #3 (permalink)
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Butzmark wrote:
> I just found out I only have four on my left rear wheel.
> There's a stub of the stud remaining though the threads are in bad
> shape. If I can chase them I'll get a thinner nut on that. I suspect
> the studs aren't replacable and I'd have to go with a whole hub.
> Anybody know?


Did you, by chance, use an aftermarket wheel on that hub? Sometimes, if
the centre bore of the wheel is larger than the hub, you can break studs
like that on a pothole. It's quite a dangerous practice to use a
non-hub-centric wheel, in my opinion, because all the load is taken up
by the studs, but many people still do this. It's best to have a
hub-centric wheel from the dealer. I bought one a few months ago for
$CAN 60, so they're not expensive.
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Old 09 Jul 2006, 04:47 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: How bad is it to run with only four lug nuts on a wheel?

You are lucky you noticed the problem now a not one a dark highway when
replacing a flat tire.
I blame the tire dealers for overtorqueing the lug nuts.
Yeah they can be individually replaced.
You might want to jackup the car a loosen all the lug nuts.

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> Butzmark wrote:
>> I just found out I only have four on my left rear wheel.
>> There's a stub of the stud remaining though the threads are in bad
>> shape. If I can chase them I'll get a thinner nut on that. I suspect
>> the studs aren't replacable and I'd have to go with a whole hub.
>> Anybody know?

>
> Did you, by chance, use an aftermarket wheel on that hub? Sometimes, if
> the centre bore of the wheel is larger than the hub, you can break studs
> like that on a pothole. It's quite a dangerous practice to use a
> non-hub-centric wheel, in my opinion, because all the load is taken up by
> the studs, but many people still do this. It's best to have a hub-centric
> wheel from the dealer. I bought one a few months ago for $CAN 60, so
> they're not expensive.



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Old 09 Jul 2006, 09:47 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: How bad is it to run with only four lug nuts on a wheel?

How do I replace one? Can the bad one be driven out while the hub is
on the vehicle or does it have to come off? Need a press?

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Old 10 Jul 2006, 05:45 am   #6 (permalink)
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Butzmark, 7/9/2006,10:47:45 PM, wrote:

> How do I replace one? Can the bad one be driven out while the hub is
> on the vehicle or does it have to come off? Need a press?


It's pressed in/out while still attached to the vehicle. I tried
driving one in myself but I didn't like all the banging and force I was
putting on the axle with the hammer. I think Pep Boys replaces the
stud for under $40.
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Old 10 Jul 2006, 09:11 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Any reputable tire shop should be able to change the stud for you. You
should get it replaced. I've seen cars drive with four lug nuts, but
wouldn't recommend it. It can cause rotor to warp because of uneven
torque.


Butzmark wrote:
> I just found out I only have four on my left rear wheel.
> There's a stub of the stud remaining though the threads are in bad
> shape. If I can chase them I'll get a thinner nut on that. I suspect
> the studs aren't replacable and I'd have to go with a whole hub.
> Anybody know?


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Old 11 Jul 2006, 01:07 am   #8 (permalink)
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"cmuller" <carlmuller@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:CPesg.5555$ye3.1714@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> I blame the tire dealers for overtorqueing the lug nuts.


Not necesairly... they probably cross-threaded it...
They put the nut into the air-gun socket and bbbzzzzit.
Instead of puting the nut by hand, turning it at least 3 times
and then use the air tool for torque. Just the constant chase
for precious time and lack of liability for the broken cars...
How can you prove they cross-threaded your lug-nuts ?
You can't, and they know it perfectly, so they do not care.
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Old 11 Jul 2006, 01:11 am   #9 (permalink)
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"Butzmark" <me@my.net> wrote in message news:qrf3b2dgtja942i7hsnpihpbr8lv16bi5l@4ax.com...
> How do I replace one? Can the bad one be driven out while the hub is
> on the vehicle or does it have to come off? Need a press?


You have drums or rotors on the rear breaks ?

I had drums, and I have replaced the stud myself after watching
how they do it at Pepboys one day. They just hammer it out...
Of course I had to remove the drum to expose the studs and
see what is really inside...
It is relatively easy. Then they put the new one just enough to
catch the grooves and then put the wheel tightening stud
in place with a lug nut... Just get the right replacement stud.
The work is quite easy and you do not need very big hammer :-)
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