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Old 17 Jul 2006, 09:51 pm   #1 (permalink)
Lonnie
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We are thinking of purchasing a new 2007 Camry Hybrid. We've done a lot of
reading about the vehicle and it seems to be a good choice for us as our
there vehicles are 1986 and 1992 vintages. My 1986 Camry has 205,000 miles
and it has been a winner for us. These vehicles seem bullet proof.

I would like to have input as to pros and cons of this new
vehicle....Mileage is a given of course..

Thank you for your input..


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Old 18 Jul 2006, 06:29 am   #2 (permalink)
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Lonnie, 7/17/2006, 10:51:42 PM, <12boj5omgccm459@corp.supernews.com>
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> We are thinking of purchasing a new 2007 Camry Hybrid. We've done a
> lot of reading about the vehicle and it seems to be a good choice for
> us as our there vehicles are 1986 and 1992 vintages. My 1986 Camry
> has 205,000 miles and it has been a winner for us. These vehicles
> seem bullet proof.
>
> I would like to have input as to pros and cons of this new
> vehicle....Mileage is a given of course..
>
> Thank you for your input..


There is a lot of dispute about whether hybrid systems offer financial
advantages over standard combustion engines. The consensus seems to be
if you want the technical gee-whiz aspect or must make an environmental
statement then maybe hybrids are your thing.

Personally I think the new Camry is very ugly. For some people that is
a major consideration and for others not.

The Corolla is much bigger than it used to be and has nearly the same
amount of interior space as your current Camry. It gets terrific gas
mileage and may indeed be a suitable replacement for your 1986 Camry.

Just don't expect the same level of reliability with new Toyotas as you
have experienced with your Generation 2 Camry. Those vehicles were
legendary and I don't think Toyota has kept up the standard in that
regard.
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Old 18 Jul 2006, 06:58 am   #3 (permalink)
m Ransley
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I think the new Camry looks great and with gas going up dont worry, it
wont loose much value if you decide to sell it. They have good hybrids
the camry is just another one till their whole line up is hybrid.

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Old 18 Jul 2006, 06:59 am   #4 (permalink)
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badgolferman, the corolla is ugly, not the new camry.

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Old 19 Jul 2006, 06:45 pm   #5 (permalink)
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I too am interested.

I would like to know how they run on mountain interstates and whether the 40
mpg is for real.


Chris


"Lonnie" <nt6bvk7lm@cybertime.net> wrote in message
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> We are thinking of purchasing a new 2007 Camry Hybrid. We've done a lot

of
> reading about the vehicle and it seems to be a good choice for us as our
> there vehicles are 1986 and 1992 vintages. My 1986 Camry has 205,000

miles
> and it has been a winner for us. These vehicles seem bullet proof.
>
> I would like to have input as to pros and cons of this new
> vehicle....Mileage is a given of course..
>
> Thank you for your input..
>
>



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Old 19 Jul 2006, 09:30 pm   #6 (permalink)
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"m Ransley" <ransley@webtv.net> wrote in message news:15244-44BCCCDD-2236@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net...
> I think the new Camry looks great and with gas going up dont worry, it
> wont loose much value if you decide to sell it. They have good hybrids
> the camry is just another one till their whole line up is hybrid.


Putting estethical taste aside, how long do you think batteries
will last in the hybrid ? How much will they cost to replace ?
How much will this hybrid will worth in a couple of years with dead batteries ?
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Old 19 Jul 2006, 10:18 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Toyota's latest study is that the Prius NiMH battery pack is good for
about 160,000 miles. This is longer than the original expectations.
Replacement is about $1,800 - $2,000.

Dick


> Putting estethical taste aside, how long do you think batteries
> will last in the hybrid ? How much will they cost to replace ?



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Old 20 Jul 2006, 12:23 am   #8 (permalink)
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"Dick Byrd" <rbyrd@byrdmische.com> wrote in message news:UBCvg.66759$9c6.33852@dukeread11...
> Toyota's latest study is that the Prius NiMH battery pack is good for
> about 160,000 miles. This is longer than the original expectations.
> Replacement is about $1,800 - $2,000.


Regardless of how many years will it take to drive these 160k miles?
Interesting - this number is surprisingly high.

Do you have any details of this study ?

Your "normal" NiMH battery pack used in electronics (for example photo
digital camera) last usually about 1000 recharge cycles...
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 03:49 pm   #9 (permalink)
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In article <12boj5omgccm459@corp.supernews.com>,
"Lonnie" <nt6bvk7lm@cybertime.net> wrote:

> We are thinking of purchasing a new 2007 Camry Hybrid. We've done a lot of
> reading about the vehicle and it seems to be a good choice for us as our
> there vehicles are 1986 and 1992 vintages. My 1986 Camry has 205,000 miles
> and it has been a winner for us. These vehicles seem bullet proof.
>
> I would like to have input as to pros and cons of this new
> vehicle....Mileage is a given of course..


Check out http://greenhybrid.com/ for comments by owners of the Camry
Hybrid. I replaced a V6, 2000 Toyota Solara with a Camry Hybrid about
two months ago. I now have about 1800 miles on it, and I feel this is
the best car that I've ever owned. The car is noticeably quicker than
the Solara, and this can also be seen in the test reports. I average
about 37 mpg, mostly because I have to cross a range of hills, to and
from work. On flat ground, I've had runs up to 200 miles at 40-44 mpg,
at 70 mph. The car is exceptionally quiet at highway speeds, more so
than the Solara, which was the quietest car I'd ever owned till then.

If you're worried about the hybrid components, the warranties are
exceptional, especially in California, and some of the eastern states.
In California, all components relating to the hybrid other than the
battery are warranted for 15 years/150,000 miles. The hybrid battery is
warranted for 10 years/150,000 miles.

If there's any drawback, it's the enormous leap in automotive technology
(not limited to the hybrid), especially since you're coming from cars
from the early nineties. I got a fully loaded car and coming from a car
that was only six years old, it took me two weeks to puzzle out all of
the electronic systems, such as Bluetooth, the gps, the voice command
system, the stereo, and info displays.

Almost forgot to mention the $2600 federal income tax credit if you buy
a hybrid by September 30th. Some states also have a hybrid credit on
top of that, and sometimes allow you to drive in car pool lanes (Camrys
don't qualify in California) without having passengers.
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 05:17 pm   #10 (permalink)
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What I cant figure is why aa or aaa NiMh last realy a few hundred
cycles, not a thousand as advertised but you are supposed to expect a
cars Nimh to last 15 yrs. I wonder how does the warranty work. If being
dead [batteries take no charge] makes the warranty 100% effective and
for example say your NimH are 70% dead but worthless anyway, could they
charge you on a prorate basis to actualy not loose money on an actualy
wothless pack. In other words rip us off on the deal. I lost on a sears
battery that would not start a car, but Sears said took a charge. I also
wonder at what % the batteries are worthless. I see issues on the
warranty and true life of the batteries where the consumer may get
ripped off continualy in the future. So an idea is lease it.

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