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Old 14 Aug 2006, 12:37 pm   #1 (permalink)
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All,

I'm trying to figure out what parts I need to replace my radiator hoses
on my '96 camry. I know I'll need the upper and lower hoses, and the
heater core hoses. Here's what I'm looking at:

16572-03032 upper radiator hose
16571-03031 lower radiator hose
87245-33070 heater core hose
87245-33090 heater core hose
87245-33100 heater core hose

But there's also 16261-74010 (some sort of bypass hose). Where does
this hose go ?!

Also, how difficult is it to change the heater core hoses? I can
probably do the front radiator (upper/lower) hoses myself, but do I
need to remove the distributor to access the heater core hoses?

Thanks,

Michael

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Old 15 Aug 2006, 01:06 am   #2 (permalink)
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You may prefer OEM hoses, many dealer parts sites have pictures and
part numbers. I prefer to use Gates belts and hoses:

http://www.gates.com/index.cfm?location_id=541

There are standard size hoses going into the IAC valve, and molded
heater core hoses.

mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm trying to figure out what parts I need to replace my radiator hoses
> on my '96 camry. I know I'll need the upper and lower hoses, and the
> heater core hoses. Here's what I'm looking at:
>
> 16572-03032 upper radiator hose
> 16571-03031 lower radiator hose
> 87245-33070 heater core hose
> 87245-33090 heater core hose
> 87245-33100 heater core hose
>
> But there's also 16261-74010 (some sort of bypass hose). Where does
> this hose go ?!
>
> Also, how difficult is it to change the heater core hoses? I can
> probably do the front radiator (upper/lower) hoses myself, but do I
> need to remove the distributor to access the heater core hoses?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael


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Old 15 Aug 2006, 09:49 am   #3 (permalink)
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mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
I know I'll need the upper and lower hoses, and the
> heater core hoses.

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Just curious how you know you need to replace the hoses.
If you've been using the Toyota coolant and distilled water, regularly
changed, those hoses can last a long, long time with zero cracking at
the ends, no softness, swelling or bulging.
If they're original equipment, they may still be in excellent
condition.
However, I've used aftermarket hoses that don't last nearly as long on
other vehicles. So conceivably, you could actually be shortening the
life of the hoses by changing them.
Now, of course, if you see any evidence of weakness or cracking,
replace them.

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Old 15 Aug 2006, 10:18 am   #4 (permalink)
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Daniel wrote:
> mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> I know I'll need the upper and lower hoses, and the
> > heater core hoses.

> ==================
> Just curious how you know you need to replace the hoses.
> If you've been using the Toyota coolant and distilled water, regularly
> changed, those hoses can last a long, long time with zero cracking at
> the ends, no softness, swelling or bulging.
> If they're original equipment, they may still be in excellent
> condition.
> However, I've used aftermarket hoses that don't last nearly as long on
> other vehicles. So conceivably, you could actually be shortening the
> life of the hoses by changing them.
> Now, of course, if you see any evidence of weakness or cracking,
> replace them.



How do I know... no there's no cracking or bulging, but the car's got
137,400 miles on it, and it's 10 years old. Thinking of replacing with
OEM parts.

Good idea/bad idea?

Thanks,

Michael

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Old 15 Aug 2006, 03:07 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On 15 Aug 2006 08:18:02 -0700, mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:

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>Daniel wrote:
>> mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
>> I know I'll need the upper and lower hoses, and the
>> > heater core hoses.

>> ==================
>> Just curious how you know you need to replace the hoses.
>> If you've been using the Toyota coolant and distilled water, regularly
>> changed, those hoses can last a long, long time with zero cracking at
>> the ends, no softness, swelling or bulging.
>> If they're original equipment, they may still be in excellent
>> condition.
>> However, I've used aftermarket hoses that don't last nearly as long on
>> other vehicles. So conceivably, you could actually be shortening the
>> life of the hoses by changing them.
>> Now, of course, if you see any evidence of weakness or cracking,
>> replace them.

>
>
>How do I know... no there's no cracking or bulging, but the car's got
>137,400 miles on it, and it's 10 years old. Thinking of replacing with
>OEM parts.
>
>Good idea/bad idea?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Michael

Great idea. They owe you nothing at this point. If you do wait and
they let go, you know it will be in East Ratsass on a Sunday night in
the rain, not in your driveway or the parking lot of the Toyota
dealer.
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Old 15 Aug 2006, 03:28 pm   #6 (permalink)
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johngdole@hotmail.com wrote:
> You may prefer OEM hoses, many dealer parts sites have pictures and
> part numbers. I prefer to use Gates belts and hoses:
>
> http://www.gates.com/index.cfm?location_id=541
>
> There are standard size hoses going into the IAC valve, and molded
> heater core hoses.
>
> mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I'm trying to figure out what parts I need to replace my radiator hoses
> > on my '96 camry. I know I'll need the upper and lower hoses, and the
> > heater core hoses. Here's what I'm looking at:
> >
> > 16572-03032 upper radiator hose
> > 16571-03031 lower radiator hose
> > 87245-33070 heater core hose
> > 87245-33090 heater core hose
> > 87245-33100 heater core hose
> >
> > But there's also 16261-74010 (some sort of bypass hose). Where does
> > this hose go ?!
> >
> > Also, how difficult is it to change the heater core hoses? I can
> > probably do the front radiator (upper/lower) hoses myself, but do I
> > need to remove the distributor to access the heater core hoses?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Michael



So, um, you believe the Gates hoses are superior to Toyota OEM?

Why, exactly?

Michael

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Old 15 Aug 2006, 11:02 pm   #7 (permalink)
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It'll be difficult to tell when the hoses will fail. Preventative
maintenance is important here, like you said, 10 year old hoses with
130,000+ miles. It's time. Don't get stranded in the middle of the
night, in the middle of a heavy rain storm and miles away from any
service.

Actual quantitative comparisons are done by all the manufacturers but
unfortunately are not released to the public. For me it's personal
experience and recommendations from/discussions with other owners. You
look for exactly the things that others have described. A hose or
belt's longevity, it's ability to stand the stresses without
hardening, cracking, deforming and with little signs of aging years
later.

Having used GoodYear, Dyaco, or the common Mitsuboshis for imports, I
find Gates belts and hoses excellent and now use their replacement
belts and hoses exclusively unless they don't have it.

hee hee hee. I know Daniel really likes OEM belts and hoses. I had
Toyota belts stretching (timing belt), drive belts hardening and
cracking at 50,000 miles but would agree later years' radiator hoses
are quite decent. That said I know how to double the life of Toyota
belts: use Gates. "Gates designed and produced the industry's first
V-belt and today is the world's largest manufacturer of V-belts,
timing belts and serpentine belts."

Car makers change brands all the time and you'll never know what you'll
get next. But I have my preference. http://www.gates.com/



mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> So, um, you believe the Gates hoses are superior to Toyota OEM?
>
> Why, exactly?
>
> Michael


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Old 16 Aug 2006, 12:23 am   #8 (permalink)
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johngdole@hotmail.com wrote:
> It'll be difficult to tell when the hoses will fail. Preventative
> maintenance is important here, like you said, 10 year old hoses with
> 130,000+ miles. It's time. Don't get stranded in the middle of the
> night, in the middle of a heavy rain storm and miles away from any
> service.
>
> Actual quantitative comparisons are done by all the manufacturers but
> unfortunately are not released to the public. For me it's personal
> experience and recommendations from/discussions with other owners. You
> look for exactly the things that others have described. A hose or
> belt's longevity, it's ability to stand the stresses without
> hardening, cracking, deforming and with little signs of aging years
> later.
>
> Having used GoodYear, Dyaco, or the common Mitsuboshis for imports, I
> find Gates belts and hoses excellent and now use their replacement
> belts and hoses exclusively unless they don't have it.
>
> hee hee hee. I know Daniel really likes OEM belts and hoses. I had
> Toyota belts stretching (timing belt), drive belts hardening and
> cracking at 50,000 miles but would agree later years' radiator hoses
> are quite decent. That said I know how to double the life of Toyota
> belts: use Gates. "Gates designed and produced the industry's first
> V-belt and today is the world's largest manufacturer of V-belts,
> timing belts and serpentine belts."
>
> Car makers change brands all the time and you'll never know what you'll
> get next. But I have my preference. http://www.gates.com/
>


Ok, I'm thinking of giving Gates a try, but do I have to cut the hose
myself? Or do they make radiator hoses for the '96 Camry, pre-cut,
correct length, etc.?

Michael

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Old 16 Aug 2006, 01:04 am   #9 (permalink)
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There are molded hoses that are meant to fit like OEMs. They are listed
as such "molded radiator hose". Check Gates' online catalog for proper
application numbers.

Part locator:
http://www.gates.com/part_locator/in...cation_id=3598

For older cars and modified street rods, there are universal "flexible"
hoses. These you can use "unicoil" to shape them. But there is no need
for universal hoses in the Camry. See:

http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?br...541&go=Unicoil

Clicking on the "Part Number" listed brings up a shopping cart like
page. Click on the "Product Number" in the cart brings up the picture
and specs (diameter, length, weight, etc) you can compare.

If you get a Gates timing kit, you'll typically get the Koyo idler
pulley (which is the OEM one out of your car) and their tensioner
pulley assembly is usually GMB. Sometimes the other way around. The
kit with the belt and two pulleys costs about what Toyota charges for
an idler pulley.

Talk about innovation and research strength BTW, Gates developed a
narrow Carbon Cord Elastomeric Composite belt on Harley Davidson's
request so Harley can transmit more power and put a wider rear wheel on
their bikes instead of using chains!

Be sure to replace the seals even if they look fine. By 60K the cams
are usually seeping (hot area of the engine). And combustion gases can
blow past them.

You can get these either at rockauto.com (good prices, but pay shipping
and wait a few days), or local NAPA stores. I've used both depending on
urgency.



mrdarrett@gmail.com wrote:
> Ok, I'm thinking of giving Gates a try, but do I have to cut the hose
> myself? Or do they make radiator hoses for the '96 Camry, pre-cut,
> correct length, etc.?
>
> Michael


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Old 16 Aug 2006, 01:13 am   #10 (permalink)
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I meant the combustion gases that blew into the crankcase and yet again
blow past them, giving you the street traffic smell in the cabin when
there are no street traffic around. I found out.

johngdole@hotmail.com wrote:
> Be sure to replace the seals even if they look fine. By 60K the cams
> are usually seeping (hot area of the engine). And combustion gases can
> blow past them.


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