'95 Camry tranny service?

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Old 02 Sep 2006, 04:14 pm   #1 (permalink)
Dale
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Hi.

In the past I have taken our '95 Camry to the dealer for most servicing
including auto-trans servicing. Now I've decided to do all the regular
maintenance myself ..as I've done on all my other NA vehicles over the
years.

But having never done any auto-trans fluid and filter changes (always left
it up the shops) I am in need of good advice in doing it properly ..without
leaks.

A few questions I have about the process are:

Should I try to flush the old fluid out of the torque converter, and if so
what's the process and is the job worth the hassle?
Is there a filter in this V6 transmission or just a reusable screen?
It appears the dealer used a gasket but I don't know if it's a rubber one
(OEM?) or not and whether it is reusable. If there's a choice, can I use
Permatex Black RTV in place of it?

Thanks,
Dale


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Old 02 Sep 2006, 05:25 pm   #2 (permalink)
m Ransley
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There is a screen but its not cleanable, There is alot to do that is one
thing you need a lift for.

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Old 02 Sep 2006, 06:05 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks. Does that screen have to be replaced (each time like a filter)?
The last change was about 30k ago and the fluid is fairly clean (reddy-pink)
but has a very slight smell ..burnt??.. don't know if that's the smell or
not. Going on a long road trip that's why I thought about getting at it
now.
I have some ramps to get under the car.
The pan gasket was dealer installed. Can it be reused?
So.. should I drop the pan and clean it out? ..or would it be just as good
to drain the oil through the drain plug, then refill and drain a couple more
times to flush the tranny?


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> There is a screen but its not cleanable, There is alot to do that is one
> thing you need a lift for.
>



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Old 03 Sep 2006, 07:44 am   #4 (permalink)
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The filter should last longer than 30000 miles, if your tranny works
fine draining it from the plug will do, its alot easier then dropping
the pan to just change out some oil every 10-15000.

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Old 03 Sep 2006, 08:20 am   #5 (permalink)
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Dale wrote:
> It appears the dealer used a gasket but I don't know if it's a rubber one
> (OEM?) or not and whether it is reusable. If there's a choice, can I use
> Permatex Black RTV in place of it?

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Some RTV silcone contains acetic acid to facilitate curing and the
vapors will enter the portion of the oxygen sensors open to atmosphere
and severely shorten their effective life, plus you should use the
dealer gasekt on the transmission pan. On mine it was cork. The engine
oil pan uses the form in place gasket material (FIPG) which looks like
black RTV silicone but is safe for oxygen sensors.

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Old 03 Sep 2006, 08:26 am   #6 (permalink)
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Dale wrote:
> Thanks. Does that screen have to be replaced (each time like a filter)?


No.

> The pan gasket was dealer installed. Can it be reused?


Not advisable.

> So.. should I drop the pan and clean it out?


If you do you need to be scrupulously clean. Even a tiny bit of lint
from a rag can cause operational problems. You clean the inside of the
pan, spray or soak in solvent and then air dry.

..or would it be just as good
> to drain the oil through the drain plug, then refill and drain a couple more
> times to flush the tranny?


If the fluid changes have not been neglected, yes.

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Old 03 Sep 2006, 10:44 am   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah. The tranny has been dealer maintained since new. It's just at this
stage in it's life (and mine) that I'm deciding to save the wait hassle
...and a fair amount of bucks.. and do the tranny fluid changes myself.
While hot, if I can just drain through that convenient plug on the pan then
refill ..then perhaps repeat it a couple of times in a row, I figure it
should flush most of the crap in there.
As for cleaning out the pan, my intuition is it will probably be "clean
enough" due to the magnets at the bottom along with a history of regular
fluid changes and no problems with running and gear shifting.

Perhaps I was getting a little anal on this ;^/

I'm also thinking the differential in this model is fluid separate from the
rest of the tranny. Am I correct? ..empty and fill separately with same
ATF?

Dale



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> Dale wrote:
>> Thanks. Does that screen have to be replaced (each time like a filter)?

>
> No.
>
>> The pan gasket was dealer installed. Can it be reused?

>
> Not advisable.
>
>> So.. should I drop the pan and clean it out?

>
> If you do you need to be scrupulously clean. Even a tiny bit of lint
> from a rag can cause operational problems. You clean the inside of the
> pan, spray or soak in solvent and then air dry.
>
> ..or would it be just as good
>> to drain the oil through the drain plug, then refill and drain a couple
>> more
>> times to flush the tranny?

>
> If the fluid changes have not been neglected, yes.
>



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Old 03 Sep 2006, 10:45 am   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks. The RTV I bought (just in case) is Permatex Black RTV and is
suppose to be safe with O2 sensors.

BTW, out of curiosity, how can one get a proper full factory spec torque on
the pan using RTV? I mean, I can understand a torqued full compression of a
factory gasket but with RTV there is no bulk to compress ..it would just
squeeze to metal/metal contact wouldn't it? I would think it would be a
pretty thin buffer against leakage..
Dale



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> Dale wrote:
>> It appears the dealer used a gasket but I don't know if it's a rubber one
>> (OEM?) or not and whether it is reusable. If there's a choice, can I use
>> Permatex Black RTV in place of it?

> ===========================================
> Some RTV silcone contains acetic acid to facilitate curing and the
> vapors will enter the portion of the oxygen sensors open to atmosphere
> and severely shorten their effective life, plus you should use the
> dealer gasekt on the transmission pan. On mine it was cork. The engine
> oil pan uses the form in place gasket material (FIPG) which looks like
> black RTV silicone but is safe for oxygen sensors.
>



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Old 03 Sep 2006, 01:39 pm   #9 (permalink)
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:14:06 GMT, "Dale"
<dalerrassportnospam@telus.net> wrote:

>Hi.
>
>In the past I have taken our '95 Camry to the dealer for most servicing
>including auto-trans servicing. Now I've decided to do all the regular
>maintenance myself ..as I've done on all my other NA vehicles over the
>years.
>
>But having never done any auto-trans fluid and filter changes (always left
>it up the shops) I am in need of good advice in doing it properly ..without
>leaks.
>
>A few questions I have about the process are:
>
>Should I try to flush the old fluid out of the torque converter, and if so
>what's the process and is the job worth the hassle?
>Is there a filter in this V6 transmission or just a reusable screen?
>It appears the dealer used a gasket but I don't know if it's a rubber one
>(OEM?) or not and whether it is reusable. If there's a choice, can I use
>Permatex Black RTV in place of it?
>
>Thanks,
>Dale
>

Once a year I drain the 3 quarts in the pan on our '93 V6 and refill
with fresh. That seems to be enough to keep the fluid pristine looking
and the trans shifting like new. I believe that under normal
circumstances, all this "flushing" business is a solution in search of
a problem.
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Old 03 Sep 2006, 03:14 pm   #10 (permalink)
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Have had the pan dropped and cleaned, just drained out via the plug and
refilled?




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> On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:14:06 GMT, "Dale"
> <dalerrassportnospam@telus.net> wrote:
>
>>Hi.
>>
>>In the past I have taken our '95 Camry to the dealer for most servicing
>>including auto-trans servicing. Now I've decided to do all the regular
>>maintenance myself ..as I've done on all my other NA vehicles over the
>>years.
>>
>>But having never done any auto-trans fluid and filter changes (always left
>>it up the shops) I am in need of good advice in doing it properly
>>..without
>>leaks.
>>
>>A few questions I have about the process are:
>>
>>Should I try to flush the old fluid out of the torque converter, and if so
>>what's the process and is the job worth the hassle?
>>Is there a filter in this V6 transmission or just a reusable screen?
>>It appears the dealer used a gasket but I don't know if it's a rubber one
>>(OEM?) or not and whether it is reusable. If there's a choice, can I use
>>Permatex Black RTV in place of it?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Dale
>>

> Once a year I drain the 3 quarts in the pan on our '93 V6 and refill
> with fresh. That seems to be enough to keep the fluid pristine looking
> and the trans shifting like new. I believe that under normal
> circumstances, all this "flushing" business is a solution in search of
> a problem.



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