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Old 05 Sep 2006, 05:52 pm   #1 (permalink)
timbirr@mailcity.com
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Default Son lost jack tools -- help

Anyone have any bright ideas on how to cheaply "replace" a manual crank
for the jack.

My bright-eyed son borrowed my rig, seemed to get it in his head it was
a frustrated 4X4, drove it off off-road, smashed the tranny pan,
smashed up the rear and managed to blow two out of four tires.

Everything is mostly back together, except for the body damage, but I
am finding that he left the jack crank (as well as a tire and wheel)
"out in the woods somewhere."

I could replace with with a floor jack or something, but there is no
good solid, safe place to store it.

So, I have the jack. I have the lug wrench. But to operate the jack, I
need the crank. It is basically a long metal pole with a couple of
"ears on each side" that fit into slots on the jack. The lug wrench
then fits on the end of this part.

Local wrecking yard wants $50 for a used "jack assembly." Anyone with
any bright ideas on something I can use/make to get by. I thought
about a big screwdriver, but when I tried it out, it seemed that with
all the pressure being put on just one side of the slots, that I would
quickly bend the slot out of shape.

This webpage has a picture of a jack that is sorta like the one I have,
at least you can see the slots of the "ears"

http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/travel/tp102.htm

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Old 05 Sep 2006, 10:48 pm   #2 (permalink)
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I'd say let your son pay for a new jack at least -- that would teach
him a lesson where it really hurts... the wallet!

In the meantime, you just need something sturdy enough not to bend when
you put force on it, and long enough to act as a lever-arm. Wear
safety googles in case the bar pops out of the hole.



timbirr@mailcity.com wrote:
> Anyone have any bright ideas on how to cheaply "replace" a manual crank
> for the jack.
>
> My bright-eyed son borrowed my rig, seemed to get it in his head it was
> a frustrated 4X4, drove it off off-road, smashed the tranny pan,
> smashed up the rear and managed to blow two out of four tires.
>
> Everything is mostly back together, except for the body damage, but I
> am finding that he left the jack crank (as well as a tire and wheel)
> "out in the woods somewhere."
>
> I could replace with with a floor jack or something, but there is no
> good solid, safe place to store it.
>
> So, I have the jack. I have the lug wrench. But to operate the jack, I
> need the crank. It is basically a long metal pole with a couple of
> "ears on each side" that fit into slots on the jack. The lug wrench
> then fits on the end of this part.
>
> Local wrecking yard wants $50 for a used "jack assembly." Anyone with
> any bright ideas on something I can use/make to get by. I thought
> about a big screwdriver, but when I tried it out, it seemed that with
> all the pressure being put on just one side of the slots, that I would
> quickly bend the slot out of shape.
>
> This webpage has a picture of a jack that is sorta like the one I have,
> at least you can see the slots of the "ears"
>
> http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/travel/tp102.htm


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Old 06 Sep 2006, 01:58 am   #3 (permalink)
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<timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone have any bright ideas on how to cheaply "replace" a manual crank
> for the jack.
>
> My bright-eyed son borrowed my rig, seemed to get it in his head it was
> a frustrated 4X4, drove it off off-road, smashed the tranny pan,
> smashed up the rear and managed to blow two out of four tires.


I suggest that you tell (not ask, TELL) your son that as well as reimbursing
you for the damage to the car, he must go "out in the woods somewhere" and
find your jack handle, or go get one and pay for it. You lent your son the
car, and you should get it back in the same condition it was when you lent
him the use of it.
If you don't, you're not doing your son any favors. Trust me.


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Old 06 Sep 2006, 06:31 am   #4 (permalink)
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<timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone have any bright ideas on how to cheaply "replace" a manual crank
> for the jack.
>
> My bright-eyed son borrowed my rig, seemed to get it in his head it was
> a frustrated 4X4, drove it off off-road, smashed the tranny pan,
> smashed up the rear and managed to blow two out of four tires.
>
> Everything is mostly back together, except for the body damage, but I
> am finding that he left the jack crank (as well as a tire and wheel)
> "out in the woods somewhere."
>

Junior can enrol at tech - night school - the amateur metal workers' course.
Just a length of 8mm bar with a 4mm rod drilled & welde through it, the
other end bend round. He could probably finish it in one or two nights then
drop out, but he might understand the value of it better.


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Old 06 Sep 2006, 09:06 am   #5 (permalink)
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E-bay. Look for good price and cheap shipping. I bought a toyota jack
two years ago for a car my wife bought that didn't have one. I think I
paid $10 for the jack and tools and $10 for shipping & handling.


timbirr@mailcity.com wrote:
> Anyone have any bright ideas on how to cheaply "replace" a manual crank
> for the jack.
>
> My bright-eyed son borrowed my rig, seemed to get it in his head it was
> a frustrated 4X4, drove it off off-road, smashed the tranny pan,
> smashed up the rear and managed to blow two out of four tires.
>
> Everything is mostly back together, except for the body damage, but I
> am finding that he left the jack crank (as well as a tire and wheel)
> "out in the woods somewhere."
>
> I could replace with with a floor jack or something, but there is no
> good solid, safe place to store it.
>
> So, I have the jack. I have the lug wrench. But to operate the jack, I
> need the crank. It is basically a long metal pole with a couple of
> "ears on each side" that fit into slots on the jack. The lug wrench
> then fits on the end of this part.
>
> Local wrecking yard wants $50 for a used "jack assembly." Anyone with
> any bright ideas on something I can use/make to get by. I thought
> about a big screwdriver, but when I tried it out, it seemed that with
> all the pressure being put on just one side of the slots, that I would
> quickly bend the slot out of shape.
>
> This webpage has a picture of a jack that is sorta like the one I have,
> at least you can see the slots of the "ears"
>
> http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/travel/tp102.htm


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Old 06 Sep 2006, 10:40 am   #6 (permalink)
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ycleptor2@cs.com wrote:
> E-bay. Look for good price and cheap shipping. I bought a toyota jack
> two years ago for a car my wife bought that didn't have one. I think I
> paid $10 for the jack and tools and $10 for shipping & handling.


Thanks all for the suggestions. Someone suggested checking with the
dealer. While not cheap, I can get the missing part for $20, which
would be about the cheapest I think I can get away with, and it will
fit!

Junior has been a problem child for years. I won't bore the group, but
we asked him to remove himself from the house in June when he turned 18
and failed to graduate HS.

He's been living in his car in the woods for the past three months (he
has worked full-time this summer, last summer, as well as part-time
during school).

While I could insist on his paying this off, it would be number #5 on
the list after several other things he owes us for.

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Old 06 Sep 2006, 10:52 am   #7 (permalink)
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timb...@mailcity.com wrote:
>
> Junior has been a problem child for years.

=================
See:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?N616416BD


Source of proven, practical, techniques that benefit both parent and
child.
I think you will be pleasantly surprised by the contents and you can't
go too far wrong for $9

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Old 06 Sep 2006, 06:50 pm   #8 (permalink)
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<timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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>
> ycleptor2@cs.com wrote:
>> E-bay. Look for good price and cheap shipping. I bought a toyota jack
>> two years ago for a car my wife bought that didn't have one. I think I
>> paid $10 for the jack and tools and $10 for shipping & handling.

>
> Thanks all for the suggestions. Someone suggested checking with the
> dealer. While not cheap, I can get the missing part for $20, which
> would be about the cheapest I think I can get away with, and it will
> fit!
>
> Junior has been a problem child for years. I won't bore the group, but
> we asked him to remove himself from the house in June when he turned 18
> and failed to graduate HS.
>
> He's been living in his car in the woods for the past three months (he
> has worked full-time this summer, last summer, as well as part-time
> during school).
>
> While I could insist on his paying this off, it would be number #5 on
> the list after several other things he owes us for.


This makes me sad, though I don't know the young man, nor you, his father.
I do hope that you will come to some sort of agreement, or entente, or
detente, which will change both your lives for the better. Keep on
Truckin', and thanks for sharing.
>



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Old 06 Sep 2006, 07:05 pm   #9 (permalink)
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mack wrote:
> This makes me sad, though I don't know the young man, nor you, his father.
> I do hope that you will come to some sort of agreement, or entente, or
> detente, which will change both your lives for the better. Keep on
> Truckin', and thanks for sharing.


Well, dear son has been through several counselors, a couple of
psychologists, tested for learning disabilities, sent to boarding
school for six months and then "two months of wilderness discovery,"
and still insisted on being a drug user with a smart mouth and little
ambition.

In the meantime, I had to put a second mortgage on the house a few
years ago to pay for the various therapies, and since my company is
cutting back my position this year, we all might just end up in the
woods with him (actually, we'll probably have to sell and move
elsewhere, but approaching that when it comes).

But, the bright spot is that while he is nowhere near to being where he
needs to be in terms of facing responsibilities, etc., he has made
significant improvements since we have shown him the door. His next
major step needs to be prioritizing his spending. But since he was
fired from his job last week (no fault of his own, his employer was
forced to cut a number of positions, also), I think that will soon take
care of itself....

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Old 27 Nov 2006, 08:01 pm   #10 (permalink)
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Friend, know you are not alone. Just as information, The Salvation Army has
a rehab program based on work therapy that has help many such young men -
and it is free. If he needs it [better than being in the woods] I'd
recommend his checking it out.

George

<timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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>
> mack wrote:
>> This makes me sad, though I don't know the young man, nor you, his
>> father.
>> I do hope that you will come to some sort of agreement, or entente, or
>> detente, which will change both your lives for the better. Keep on
>> Truckin', and thanks for sharing.

>
> Well, dear son has been through several counselors, a couple of
> psychologists, tested for learning disabilities, sent to boarding
> school for six months and then "two months of wilderness discovery,"
> and still insisted on being a drug user with a smart mouth and little
> ambition.
>
> In the meantime, I had to put a second mortgage on the house a few
> years ago to pay for the various therapies, and since my company is
> cutting back my position this year, we all might just end up in the
> woods with him (actually, we'll probably have to sell and move
> elsewhere, but approaching that when it comes).
>
> But, the bright spot is that while he is nowhere near to being where he
> needs to be in terms of facing responsibilities, etc., he has made
> significant improvements since we have shown him the door. His next
> major step needs to be prioritizing his spending. But since he was
> fired from his job last week (no fault of his own, his employer was
> forced to cut a number of positions, also), I think that will soon take
> care of itself....
>



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