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Old 09 Sep 2006, 08:18 am   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 2002 Camry. Came home from work with no problems. Went to start it
later & battery was dead and car would not even shift out of park to push it
out of the garage. I eventually jumped the battery & it started right up but
did not hold the charge longer than 5 minutes while idling. Is it the battery
(which I can easily replace myself) or the alternator (which I cannot). Car
only has 80K miles. Battery is original. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Lee

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Old 09 Sep 2006, 12:31 pm   #2 (permalink)
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"camry owner" <u26395@uwe> wrote in message news:6608cb45e0bd8@uwe...
>I have a 2002 Camry. Came home from work with no problems. Went to start it
> later & battery was dead and car would not even shift out of park to push
> it
> out of the garage. I eventually jumped the battery & it started right up
> but
> did not hold the charge longer than 5 minutes while idling. Is it the
> battery
> (which I can easily replace myself) or the alternator (which I cannot).
> Car
> only has 80K miles. Battery is original. Any thoughts would be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks, Lee
>


I would go ahead an replace the battery, since even if it turned out to be
the alternator, a 2002 battery probably does not have much life left.
However, you might want to check the water level in the battery and
carefully fill to cover the metal plates with distilled water if necessary
(be very careful to not over-fill because that will let acid out of the
battery)..

Batteries these days tend to go bad all of a sudden instead of gradually,
especially if the are physically damaged inside (which happens more
frequently than most realize). The damage can occur as a result of extreme
heat and/or physical shock.

If you live in a moderate or warm climate, be sure to get a "South" battery,
which are built with sturdier internal construction, but have slightly less
cranking power than "North" batteries.


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Old 09 Sep 2006, 03:43 pm   #3 (permalink)
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camry owner wrote:
> I have a 2002 Camry. Came home from work with no problems. Went to start it
> later & battery was dead and car would not even shift out of park to push it
> out of the garage. I eventually jumped the battery & it started right up but
> did not hold the charge longer than 5 minutes while idling. Is it the battery
> (which I can easily replace myself) or the alternator (which I cannot). Car
> only has 80K miles. Battery is original. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks, Lee


When you say it "did not hold the charge longer than 5 minutes while
idling", do you mean the engine stall 5 minutes after jump start, OR
you run it for 5 minutes, turn off the ignition and then fail to
restart the engine? If it is the first case, more than likely the
charging system cannot provide enough electricity to run the car, the
battery may not be bad. If it is the latter case, you need more than 5
minutes to recharge a dead battery.

If you have a charger, recharge the battery before trying again. A
charger is a good investment especially for the winter time. If the
battery is old or you usually run short trips, recharging the battery
once in a while will prevent some problems.

I would also do a quick check of the battery with a
voltmeter/multi-meter. With the ignition key off, check the battery
voltage. It should be around 13 volts. Once you jump start the
engine, the voltage should be around 14 to 15 volts. If you don't get
that jump in voltage after starting the engine, there is something
wrong with the charging system.

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Old 10 Sep 2006, 01:37 am   #4 (permalink)
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"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "camry owner" <u26395@uwe> wrote in message news:6608cb45e0bd8@uwe...
>>I have a 2002 Camry. Came home from work with no problems. Went to start
>>it
>> later & battery was dead and car would not even shift out of park to push
>> it
>> out of the garage. I eventually jumped the battery & it started right up
>> but
>> did not hold the charge longer than 5 minutes while idling. Is it the
>> battery
>> (which I can easily replace myself) or the alternator (which I cannot).
>> Car
>> only has 80K miles. Battery is original. Any thoughts would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks, Lee
>>

>
> I would go ahead an replace the battery, since even if it turned out to be
> the alternator, a 2002 battery probably does not have much life left.


The original battery in my 99 Camry is still going strong...in a northern
COLD climate, I might add.


> However, you might want to check the water level in the battery and
> carefully fill to cover the metal plates with distilled water if necessary
> (be very careful to not over-fill because that will let acid out of the
> battery)..
>
> Batteries these days tend to go bad all of a sudden instead of gradually,
> especially if the are physically damaged inside (which happens more
> frequently than most realize). The damage can occur as a result of extreme
> heat and/or physical shock.
>
> If you live in a moderate or warm climate, be sure to get a "South"
> battery, which are built with sturdier internal construction, but have
> slightly less cranking power than "North" batteries.
>



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Old 10 Sep 2006, 02:03 am   #5 (permalink)
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"sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The original battery in my 99 Camry is still going strong...in a northern
> COLD climate, I might add.
>


Batteries typically last longer in cold climates. It is the heat that kills
them. The "South" batteries are built with a more robust internal structure
at the expense of room for metal plates and fluid (so South batteries have
slightly less cranking power than ordinary or North batteries).

I replaced the original battery in my 98 about a year ago, simply as a
precaution, even though it seemed to be fine. Being stranded with a dead
battery can sometimes be many times more costly than the $75 cost of a new
one.


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Old 10 Sep 2006, 09:31 am   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone for the tips. I ended up taking it in because the car kept
stalling out. The shop ran tests & deterined the battery was the cuplrit.
Hopefully they were right.

Thanks.

Mark A wrote:
>>I have a 2002 Camry. Came home from work with no problems. Went to start it
>> later & battery was dead and car would not even shift out of park to push

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>>
>> Thanks, Lee

>
>I would go ahead an replace the battery, since even if it turned out to be
>the alternator, a 2002 battery probably does not have much life left.
>However, you might want to check the water level in the battery and
>carefully fill to cover the metal plates with distilled water if necessary
>(be very careful to not over-fill because that will let acid out of the
>battery)..
>
>Batteries these days tend to go bad all of a sudden instead of gradually,
>especially if the are physically damaged inside (which happens more
>frequently than most realize). The damage can occur as a result of extreme
>heat and/or physical shock.
>
>If you live in a moderate or warm climate, be sure to get a "South" battery,
>which are built with sturdier internal construction, but have slightly less
>cranking power than "North" batteries.


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Old 10 Sep 2006, 03:00 pm   #7 (permalink)
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camry owner wrote:
> I have a 2002 Camry. Came home from work with no problems. Went to start it
> later & battery was dead and car would not even shift out of park to push it
> out of the garage. I eventually jumped the battery & it started right up but
> did not hold the charge longer than 5 minutes while idling. Is it the battery
> (which I can easily replace myself) or the alternator (which I cannot). Car
> only has 80K miles. Battery is original. Any thoughts would be appreciated.


I had a car years ago that had this problem. I suffered with it all
one winter until a sharp garage guy figured out the alternator belt was
too loose and the battery was not getting recharged.
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Old 11 Sep 2006, 11:16 am   #8 (permalink)
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If the charging system is working, then you car shouldn't stall after
being started. The alternator will not provide much power at idle
speeds, but if you are not using AC or much other power, then your car
should keep running without stalling. Otherwise it points to a weak
charging system or even something as simple as a loose belt.


camry owner wrote:
> I have a 2002 Camry. Came home from work with no problems. Went to start it
> later & battery was dead and car would not even shift out of park to push it
> out of the garage. I eventually jumped the battery & it started right up but
> did not hold the charge longer than 5 minutes while idling. Is it the battery
> (which I can easily replace myself) or the alternator (which I cannot). Car
> only has 80K miles. Battery is original. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks, Lee


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Old 11 Sep 2006, 12:20 pm   #9 (permalink)
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<johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> If the charging system is working, then you car shouldn't stall after
> being started. The alternator will not provide much power at idle
> speeds, but if you are not using AC or much other power, then your car
> should keep running without stalling. Otherwise it points to a weak
> charging system or even something as simple as a loose belt.
>


Since the OP has subsequently posted that a service technician has evaluated
the situation and determined that battery is a fault, it does not seem wise
for someone who has not even seen the car to contradict that.


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