2003 SE 20,000km: disc brakes need to be change?

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Old 10 Sep 2006, 07:54 pm   #1 (permalink)
chl_11
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Default 2003 SE 20,000km: disc brakes need to be change?

I recently brought my car to the dealer and they say all 4 of my brakes
need to be change.

They say that the brakes are rusty because over 3 years, the car has only
20,000km. Is it true that I need to change it or can I keep driving with
it?

I didn't notice any problems when I'm driving on highway or on the
streets.

Thanks



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Old 11 Sep 2006, 12:30 am   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2003 SE 20,000km: disc brakes need to be change?

I would get a second opinion

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Old 11 Sep 2006, 01:01 am   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2003 SE 20,000km: disc brakes need to be change?

Your dealer is probably conning you, rust from not driving wears off in
a few stops. replace them only when they are about worn out, before the
rivets ruin your rotors, that might be in 3 years for you in front and
15 years on the rears

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Old 11 Sep 2006, 09:05 am   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2003 SE 20,000km: disc brakes need to be change?

I went to a second Toyota dealer and they suggested cleaning the 4 brakes
to remove the rust or the corrosion. This will cost $50.

Changing all 4 disc brakes will cost around $1000, but that dealer is
willing to offer a $200 discount.

Are both of them trying to rip me off? How long will either treatment
last?

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Old 11 Sep 2006, 11:04 am   #5 (permalink)
Daniel
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Default Re: 2003 SE 20,000km: disc brakes need to be change?

chl_11 wrote:
> Are both of them trying to rip me off? How long will either treatment
> last?

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Best practice is to have them show you (or just look for yourself).

If you remove the wheel covers, you should be able to see the rotors
through the holes in the wheels just by using a light.

Are the rotors horribly disfigured from excessive rust, or just an even
layer?

The cast iron disks or rotors will rust almost immediately when wet,
but when you apply the brakes, the rust should be removed from the
surface first time you use the brakes.

I have alloy wheels so I can easily see through to the rotors. Every
time I wash the car, by the time I dry it, the rotors are coated with a
light layer of rust, but after it is driven and parked again, they're
all clean and shiny.

Doesn't sound like $50 is excessive to clean up the rotors.

If you're parking so the wheels are hit by lawn sprinklers every day
and you don't move the car for months, I'd park somewhere else.

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Old 11 Sep 2006, 11:32 am   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2003 SE 20,000km: disc brakes need to be change?

Brake pads/shoes need to be changed when they are worn out or
glazed/damaged. Is that the case? The OEM ceramic pads can last over
80K miles in normal use.

Disc surface rust should go away with a couple of brake applications.
Rust coat in the vent area isn't anything to worry about. Are you
seeing any signs of rust in the caliper and pad retainer areas?

If the second dealer asks for $50 cleaning then you know the first
dealer tried to con you for $1000. No dealer will refuse to clean the
brakes if you ask them to because the service manager gets a cut of the
profit. And if the second dealer can clean things for $50, then you
don't have much of a rust problem, do you?

You can always check with an independent mechanic or a brake specialist
for a third opinion. Ask your friends for references and
recommendations.



chl_11 wrote:
> I recently brought my car to the dealer and they say all 4 of my brakes
> need to be change.
>
> They say that the brakes are rusty because over 3 years, the car has only
> 20,000km. Is it true that I need to change it or can I keep driving with
> it?
>
> I didn't notice any problems when I'm driving on highway or on the
> streets.
>
> Thanks


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Old 11 Sep 2006, 04:05 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2003 SE 20,000km: disc brakes need to be change?

I had front pads on my Highlander changed about 3 months ago (about
53k miles) and ceramic pads from Toyota were about 55 and the
independent tech I think charged less than $100 to install (I had
other stuff done also) rotors didn't need turning - as others have
said rotors rust but gone first stop.

So,

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Old 17 Sep 2006, 07:52 pm   #8 (permalink)
David N. Makinson
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chl_11 wrote:
> I recently brought my car to the dealer and they say all 4 of my brakes
> need to be change.
>
> They say that the brakes are rusty because over 3 years, the car has only
> 20,000km. Is it true that I need to change it or can I keep driving with
> it?
>
> I didn't notice any problems when I'm driving on highway or on the
> streets.
>
> Thanks
>

You didn't mention why you took your car in. Were you having some issue
with the brakes? If so what?
David
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