Inflation pressure for new NITROGEN filled tires

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Old 04 Oct 2006, 01:49 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Hello to all. Just purchased a set of Michelin Pilot Exalto All-Season
205/65 H15 for 98 Camry XLE V6. Next day I went to Toyo dealer for wheel
alignment and filling of tires with nitrogen. As for the wisdom of spending
extra money on nitrogen, time will tell. I like to ask for recommendation on
inflation pressure. Should I stick with Toyota factory recommendation, or go
up few notches. Telling by rougher ride, the shop set the pressure a bit
higher, as they usually do. I am not too concerned to maximize thread life
or extract best mileage from the car, I just like good traction for
left-lane spirited driving at interstate speeds. I almost went with V rated
rubber but was afraid those may be too noisy for long trips. Thanks in
advance, -Sveta


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Old 04 Oct 2006, 02:37 pm   #2 (permalink)
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"S. Petkovic" <sveta118@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Hello to all. Just purchased a set of Michelin Pilot Exalto All-Season
> 205/65 H15 for 98 Camry XLE V6. Next day I went to Toyo dealer for wheel
> alignment and filling of tires with nitrogen. As for the wisdom of
> spending
> extra money on nitrogen, time will tell. I like to ask for recommendation
> on
> inflation pressure. Should I stick with Toyota factory recommendation, or
> go
> up few notches. Telling by rougher ride, the shop set the pressure a bit
> higher, as they usually do. I am not too concerned to maximize thread
> life
> or extract best mileage from the car, I just like good traction for
> left-lane spirited driving at interstate speeds. I almost went with V
> rated
> rubber but was afraid those may be too noisy for long trips. Thanks in
> advance, -Sveta


I would go 2-4 PSI higher that specified by the Camry User manual. Most
auto-service places (including some dealers) set the pressure way too high.
I use about 33 PSI when the tires are already warm (which is about 30-31
cold tire pressure) for my 98 XLE V6 using Michelin Pilot 92H tires. The
above cold tire pressure numbers assume that the ambient temp is about 70
degrees.


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Old 04 Oct 2006, 06:19 pm   #3 (permalink)
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You should use the same pressure for nitrogen as compressed air. If you
bought the tires at Costco, they'll pump them up with nitrogen for free
as they've gone nitrogen in just about all their facilities, if not all
already.


S. Petkovic wrote:
> Hello to all. Just purchased a set of Michelin Pilot Exalto All-Season
> 205/65 H15 for 98 Camry XLE V6. Next day I went to Toyo dealer for wheel
> alignment and filling of tires with nitrogen. As for the wisdom of spending
> extra money on nitrogen, time will tell. I like to ask for recommendation on
> inflation pressure. Should I stick with Toyota factory recommendation, or go
> up few notches. Telling by rougher ride, the shop set the pressure a bit
> higher, as they usually do. I am not too concerned to maximize thread life
> or extract best mileage from the car, I just like good traction for
> left-lane spirited driving at interstate speeds. I almost went with V rated
> rubber but was afraid those may be too noisy for long trips. Thanks in
> advance, -Sveta


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Old 04 Oct 2006, 07:01 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Why does anyone want to use pure nitrogen in his tires? I use 80% N2
and 20% O2 and it works fine.


S. Petkovic wrote:
> Hello to all. Just purchased a set of Michelin Pilot Exalto All-Season
> 205/65 H15 for 98 Camry XLE V6. Next day I went to Toyo dealer for wheel
> alignment and filling of tires with nitrogen. As for the wisdom of spending
> extra money on nitrogen, time will tell. I like to ask for recommendation on
> inflation pressure. Should I stick with Toyota factory recommendation, or go
> up few notches. Telling by rougher ride, the shop set the pressure a bit
> higher, as they usually do. I am not too concerned to maximize thread life
> or extract best mileage from the car, I just like good traction for
> left-lane spirited driving at interstate speeds. I almost went with V rated
> rubber but was afraid those may be too noisy for long trips. Thanks in
> advance, -Sveta
>
>

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Old 04 Oct 2006, 07:23 pm   #5 (permalink)
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I think it was Stubby <William.Plummer-NOSPAM-@alum.mit.edu> who
stated:

>Why does anyone want to use pure nitrogen in his tires? I use 80% N2
>and 20% O2 and it works fine.


But that's not really the best idea either.

Me? I like to have some other gasses too; I prefer this mixture in my
tires:

Nitrogen N2 78.084 %
Oxygen O2 20.9476 %
Argon Ar 0.934 %
Carbon Dioxide CO2 0.0314 %
Neon Ne 0.001818 %
Helium He 0.000524 %
Methane CH4 0.0002 %
Krypton Kr 0.000114 %
Hydrogen H2 0.00005 %
Xenon Xe 0.0000087 %

That's the brew *I* use!

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Old 04 Oct 2006, 07:25 pm   #6 (permalink)
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"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "S. Petkovic" <sveta118@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I would go 2-4 PSI higher that specified by the Camry User manual. Most
> auto-service places (including some dealers) set the pressure way too

high.
> I use about 33 PSI when the tires are already warm (which is about 30-31
> cold tire pressure) for my 98 XLE V6 using Michelin Pilot 92H tires. The
> above cold tire pressure numbers assume that the ambient temp is about 70
> degrees.
>


Thanks,
What you're saying makes sense, I will do the same.


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Old 04 Oct 2006, 07:27 pm   #7 (permalink)
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The link below has a pretty good discussion of the subject of nitrogen
in tires:

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.c...=120996&page=1


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Old 04 Oct 2006, 07:32 pm   #8 (permalink)
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<johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You should use the same pressure for nitrogen as compressed air. If you
> bought the tires at Costco, they'll pump them up with nitrogen for free
> as they've gone nitrogen in just about all their facilities, if not all
> already.


Bought and installed tires at Just Tires. Then refilled w nitrogen and
aligned wheels at
Toyota dealership.


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Old 08 Oct 2006, 06:33 am   #9 (permalink)
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"S. Petkovic" <sveta118@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:YY6dnSWIAOxun7nYnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Hello to all. Just purchased a set of Michelin Pilot Exalto All-Season
> 205/65 H15 for 98 Camry XLE V6. Next day I went to Toyo dealer for wheel
> alignment and filling of tires with nitrogen. As for the wisdom of

spending
> extra money on nitrogen, time will tell. I like to ask for recommendation

on
> inflation pressure. Should I stick with Toyota factory recommendation, or

go
> up few notches. Telling by rougher ride, the shop set the pressure a bit
> higher, as they usually do. I am not too concerned to maximize thread

life
> or extract best mileage from the car, I just like good traction for
> left-lane spirited driving at interstate speeds. I almost went with V

rated
> rubber but was afraid those may be too noisy for long trips. Thanks in
> advance, -Sveta
>
>


what do you do when you need the tires lose pressure? can you mix air and
nitro? if so what are the benefits of having nitro? eventually all tires
need added pressure so do you go to someone who uses nitro or can you get a
tank ful and keep it in your garage?

mike............


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Old 10 Oct 2006, 09:44 pm   #10 (permalink)
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"JerseyMike" <clamdigger724@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "S. Petkovic" <sveta118@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:YY6dnSWIAOxun7nYnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > Hello to all. Just purchased a set of Michelin Pilot Exalto All-Season
> > 205/65 H15 for 98 Camry XLE V6. Next day I went to Toyo dealer for wheel
> > alignment and filling of tires with nitrogen. As for the wisdom of

> spending
> > extra money on nitrogen, time will tell. I like to ask for

recommendation
> on
> > inflation pressure. Should I stick with Toyota factory recommendation,

or
> go
> > up few notches. Telling by rougher ride, the shop set the pressure a bit
> > higher, as they usually do. I am not too concerned to maximize thread

> life
> > or extract best mileage from the car, I just like good traction for
> > left-lane spirited driving at interstate speeds. I almost went with V

> rated
> > rubber but was afraid those may be too noisy for long trips. Thanks in
> > advance, -Sveta
> >
> >

>
> what do you do when you need the tires lose pressure? can you mix air and
> nitro? if so what are the benefits of having nitro? eventually all tires
> need added pressure so do you go to someone who uses nitro or can you get

a
> tank ful and keep it in your garage?
>
> mike............
>
>

I will ask shop to check/add nitro when I have my oil/filter change.
Otherwise, adding coulple of lbs/sq"
regular compressed air would be rather small procentage of total volume so
it would not change
things too much. It would be nice if they started marketing compressed nitro
in cans like those of tire
repair/inflator so one can keep it ready in trunk.
-sveta


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