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Old 28 Oct 2006, 01:44 pm   #1 (permalink)
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My 1991 Camry was stolen a while back, then recovered. I've decided to
install a hidden kill switch, and am trying to decide what to hook it
to. So far I'm considering running my hidden switch to the negative
terminal on either the coil or the fuel pump.

I see the coil is integral to the distributor (I've never had a car
with one of these until now.) I don't know where the fuel pump is
located, but haven't looked too hard.

Basically, I'd like to take the path of least resistance (read: the
easiest and least time consuming!) If anybody here has other ideas I'd
love to hear them. Otherwise, perhaps y'all can point me in the right
direction for the fuel pump, and what you consider to be the easiest
"fix."

Thanks,
Mark


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Old 28 Oct 2006, 03:49 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Why not just buy one of those steering wheel lock bars.

Some one intent on stealing a car would look inside and see the steering
wheel with a bar lock on it and move on to an easier target.




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> My 1991 Camry was stolen a while back, then recovered. I've decided to
> install a hidden kill switch, and am trying to decide what to hook it
> to. So far I'm considering running my hidden switch to the negative
> terminal on either the coil or the fuel pump.
>
> I see the coil is integral to the distributor (I've never had a car
> with one of these until now.) I don't know where the fuel pump is
> located, but haven't looked too hard.
>
> Basically, I'd like to take the path of least resistance (read: the
> easiest and least time consuming!) If anybody here has other ideas I'd
> love to hear them. Otherwise, perhaps y'all can point me in the right
> direction for the fuel pump, and what you consider to be the easiest
> "fix."
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
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Old 28 Oct 2006, 06:05 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"MarkZ" <MarkZ.2geigz@no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote in message
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> My 1991 Camry was stolen a while back, then recovered. I've decided to
> install a hidden kill switch, and am trying to decide what to hook it
> to. So far I'm considering running my hidden switch to the negative
> terminal on either the coil or the fuel pump.
>
> I see the coil is integral to the distributor (I've never had a car
> with one of these until now.) I don't know where the fuel pump is
> located, but haven't looked too hard.
>
> Basically, I'd like to take the path of least resistance (read: the
> easiest and least time consuming!) If anybody here has other ideas I'd
> love to hear them. Otherwise, perhaps y'all can point me in the right
> direction for the fuel pump, and what you consider to be the easiest
> "fix."
>
> Thanks,
> Mark


A nice loud alarm once they open a door or bump the vehicle is the first
line of defence. If you want to install a kill-switch, there are a number of
circuits you can disable with a switch eg starter-motor solenoid wire or
remove the fuse-board and break into a circuit which sounds important eg
ECU, ignition etc.

Jason


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Old 28 Oct 2006, 10:23 pm   #4 (permalink)
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>lobo Wrote:
> Why not just buy one of those steering wheel lock bars.
> >
> >Some one intent on stealing a car would look inside and see the

> steering wheel with a bar lock
> >on it and move on to an easier target.

>
> It did have a bar on it, and I thought the same thing you did, namely
> that the thief would see it and move on. The guy cut the steering wheel
> to remove it! I guess if someone REALLY wants to steal a car they're
> going to do it!
>
> So...now I'm going to change my strategy. If it won't start they CAN'T
> steal it, unless they want to tow it : )



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Old 29 Oct 2006, 08:03 am   #5 (permalink)
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MarkZ wrote:
> My 1991 Camry was stolen a while back, then recovered. I've decided to
> install a hidden kill switch

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Car and Driver magazine rated antitheft devices a couple of months ago
and their favorite is like your idea pre packaged.
There is a round "key" with something like 8 pins and a matching round
holder. It is professionally installed, and all the wiring is run
inside the existing wiring harnesses to be undetectable.
Seems like even professional thieves couldn't break it.
Look for the small round "key" picture in the ads in back every month.
If you're looking for something to disable, there is a fuel cutoff
relay that goes off when the ignition key is turned off to stop the
engine immediately.

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Old 30 Oct 2006, 08:00 am   #6 (permalink)
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MarkZ wrote:
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> > It did have a bar on it, and I thought the same thing you did, namely
> > that the thief would see it and move on. The guy cut the steering wheel
> > to remove it!

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Old 30 Oct 2006, 08:07 am   #7 (permalink)
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MarkZ wrote:
> My 1991 Camry was stolen a while back

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VIN etching
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VIN etching is a countermeasure to car theft, which involves the use of
a stencil and glass etching paste to etch a car's VIN (vehicle
identification number) onto its windshield and windows. This makes the
car less profitable to thieves, as they end up having to replace the
glass (at considerable cost) before they can sell the stolen vehicle
therefore they will move on to a vehicle that has not been etched.
Similarly, auto parts buyers will not buy parts that have
identification numbers. Most of the parts on a vehicle have at least a
partial VIN stamped on them. That means that when a thief tries to sell
the parts off of a car for profit, those stamped parts carry a higher
risk for both thief and disreputable auto parts seller. Since the glass
has no identification number and is often interchangeable with many
different years and models of vehicle there is often a much greater
profit for the thief compared to other components on the auto. This
will lead a thief to search for a non etched auto. Many etch companies
will also pay a benefit of up to $5000 in the event that a vehicle that
has been etched is stolen. Some automobile insurance companies offer
discounts off their premium for VIN etching. VIN etching is offered by
many car dealerships as a low cost add-on option; they commonly charge
a relatively small fee to apply an etching kit that can potentially
save drivers thousands of dollars.
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You should be able to find a kit for around $20

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Old 31 Oct 2006, 10:53 am   #8 (permalink)
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MarkZ wrote:

> My 1991 Camry was stolen a while back, then recovered. I've decided to
> install a hidden kill switch, and am trying to decide what to hook it
> to. So far I'm considering running my hidden switch to the negative
> terminal on either the coil or the fuel pump.


I wouldn't connect to the coil. Inductive kickback could arc across
the switch or your wiring. Or create radio interferrence.
>
> I see the coil is integral to the distributor (I've never had a car
> with one of these until now.) I don't know where the fuel pump is
> located, but haven't looked too hard.


Fuel pump should be in the gas tank. If it's like my 83, it's under the
rear seat. Wires in plain site when you remove the bottom cushion.
>
> Basically, I'd like to take the path of least resistance (read: the
> easiest and least time consuming!) If anybody here has other ideas I'd
> love to hear them. Otherwise, perhaps y'all can point me in the right
> direction for the fuel pump, and what you consider to be the easiest
> "fix."


You could tap into one of the relays. Either the main relay or the
fuel injection relay. I'd choose the fuel injection route. Since the
car will still crank over, the thief may be led to believe that the
car is broken rather than looking for the disabling wires. I've known
folks that remove the FI relay every time they park.

>
> Thanks,
> Mark
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Old 31 Oct 2006, 09:27 pm   #9 (permalink)
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The glass etching is a nice idea. The scum who took my car, however,
were more interested in just having a "loaner" to use for a few days. I
really don't think they would have kept it as long as they did if the
car didn't have a full tank of gas in it (I had just refueled that
morning.) They were drug users (I found this out when I stuck my hand
under the driver's seat to remove some garbage they left (after the car
had been recovered) and pulled my hand out with a syringe embedded in my
palm.

I just finished my mod. I disabled my starter. While I like the idea of
the fuel pump mod, I didnt' feel like playing with the fuel pump or the
fuse box. Though a thief could easily detect my mod if he/she looked
under the hood, I don't really think any scum in the night is going to
take the time needed to pop the top and explore why the car won't
start. I'll take my chances with it the way I've done it, and I'm quite
pleased with the location of the spot for my hidden switch...

Thanks to all who replied,
Mark


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