Starter at fault or battery on 1998 Camry

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Old 08 Nov 2006, 11:37 am   #1 (permalink)
tareqmd@gmail.com
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I have a 1998 Camry

I am pretty new with stuff in the cars, but I am very a do it yourself
type person so I have some questions. Any help from anyone would be
greatly appreciated.

My car won't start on the first turn. On the first turn it just makes
a click noise. At first, on the second turn it would start no problem.
Now (I think because it has gotten colder) it takes about 6-10 turns
(each time it clicks). I believe it may be a problem with the starter
but not too sure. There is a lot of corrosion around the nodes on the
battery I was wondering if that would affect anything.

Someone mentioned something about some type of solenoid (sp?) cables??
That may have some corrosion on it that may be causing my problems. If
that is the case what would I do?

And where is the starter located and how hard would it be to change it
myself? Taking simple stuff apart should be problem.

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Old 08 Nov 2006, 12:07 pm   #2 (permalink)
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yep sounds like the solenoid which is part of the starting systems may going
bad once it does
you will not be able to start the car unless it is a stick.

<tareqmd@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 1998 Camry
>
> I am pretty new with stuff in the cars, but I am very a do it yourself
> type person so I have some questions. Any help from anyone would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> My car won't start on the first turn. On the first turn it just makes
> a click noise. At first, on the second turn it would start no problem.
> Now (I think because it has gotten colder) it takes about 6-10 turns
> (each time it clicks). I believe it may be a problem with the starter
> but not too sure. There is a lot of corrosion around the nodes on the
> battery I was wondering if that would affect anything.
>
> Someone mentioned something about some type of solenoid (sp?) cables??
> That may have some corrosion on it that may be causing my problems. If
> that is the case what would I do?
>
> And where is the starter located and how hard would it be to change it
> myself? Taking simple stuff apart should be problem.
>



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Old 08 Nov 2006, 12:24 pm   #3 (permalink)
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must i replace the solenoid switch or just clean the wires? and how do
I get to them?

BigJim wrote:
> yep sounds like the solenoid which is part of the starting systems may going
> bad once it does
> you will not be able to start the car unless it is a stick.
>
> <tareqmd@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1163007454.053875.109180@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> >I have a 1998 Camry
> >
> > I am pretty new with stuff in the cars, but I am very a do it yourself
> > type person so I have some questions. Any help from anyone would be
> > greatly appreciated.
> >
> > My car won't start on the first turn. On the first turn it just makes
> > a click noise. At first, on the second turn it would start no problem.
> > Now (I think because it has gotten colder) it takes about 6-10 turns
> > (each time it clicks). I believe it may be a problem with the starter
> > but not too sure. There is a lot of corrosion around the nodes on the
> > battery I was wondering if that would affect anything.
> >
> > Someone mentioned something about some type of solenoid (sp?) cables??
> > That may have some corrosion on it that may be causing my problems. If
> > that is the case what would I do?
> >
> > And where is the starter located and how hard would it be to change it
> > myself? Taking simple stuff apart should be problem.
> >


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Old 08 Nov 2006, 02:37 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Low voltage will make a starter just click terminals inside and battery
posts must be completly clean, you already know this is an issue. A
battery fully charged is 12.7-12.85v at 12v it is 10% charged, start
with the simple things.

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Old 08 Nov 2006, 04:00 pm   #5 (permalink)
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<tareqmd@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 1998 Camry
>
> I am pretty new with stuff in the cars, but I am very a do it yourself
> type person so I have some questions. Any help from anyone would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> My car won't start on the first turn. On the first turn it just makes
> a click noise. At first, on the second turn it would start no problem.
> Now (I think because it has gotten colder) it takes about 6-10 turns
> (each time it clicks). I believe it may be a problem with the starter
> but not too sure. There is a lot of corrosion around the nodes on the
> battery I was wondering if that would affect anything.
>
> Someone mentioned something about some type of solenoid (sp?) cables??
> That may have some corrosion on it that may be causing my problems. If
> that is the case what would I do?
>
> And where is the starter located and how hard would it be to change it
> myself? Taking simple stuff apart should be problem.
>


Get those battery connections all cleaned up.
coat with a little Vaseline to help stop corrosion.
It may be you have a volts drop over the rather dirty connectors.

That's the FIRST place to start.

Johnny UK.


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Old 08 Nov 2006, 04:08 pm   #6 (permalink)
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"m Ransley" <ransley@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Low voltage will make a starter just click terminals inside and battery
> posts must be completly clean, you already know this is an issue. A
> battery fully charged is 12.7-12.85v at 12v it is 10% charged, start
> with the simple things.


going back to the beginning of your question, I'd start by doing a thorough
cleaning of the battery terminals, removing the clamps and going after the
corrosion around the terminals, making sure the insides of the clamps are
clean with steel wool or a steel brush, and reassembling the leads on the
battery. If the starter motor always kicks in with the turn of the key,
that was your answer. BUT, if as in my experience of a year or so ago with
my '97 Camry, when the first turn of the key yielded only silence, and the
second or third got the starter motor to kick in, I felt a little too old, a
little too fat, and a little too rich to take on the repair task myself, so
took it to an independent shop with ASE qualified techs. They took off the
starter motor and found there was a "flat spot" on the ...armature? rotor?
....and had to replace the starter lest it give trouble in future in a more
inconvenient spot than my driveway. They used a genuine Toyota starter,
since they don't trust aftermarket alternatives. and no trouble since. It
may be you're in the same boat with your starter. As you probably know, the
starter is located way below the engine, and unless you're willing to get
underneath, with adequate jackstands, and risk the hazard of being
underneath a ton and a half of automobile, AND know the difference between a
good starter and a bad one, I'd take it in and pay the labor if I were you.
>



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Old 08 Nov 2006, 05:43 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Sounds like a sticking starter motor. I had an old van, which behaved in a
similar fashion to what you describe. I think the teeth on the starter motor
cog that engaged with the engine to turn it over was damaged in some way.
Sometimes the only way I could start it was to slip it into a high gear
(manual stick shift only) and gently rock it forward and backwards to free
the starter motor cog.




<tareqmd@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have a 1998 Camry
>
> I am pretty new with stuff in the cars, but I am very a do it yourself
> type person so I have some questions. Any help from anyone would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> My car won't start on the first turn. On the first turn it just makes
> a click noise. At first, on the second turn it would start no problem.
> Now (I think because it has gotten colder) it takes about 6-10 turns
> (each time it clicks). I believe it may be a problem with the starter
> but not too sure. There is a lot of corrosion around the nodes on the
> battery I was wondering if that would affect anything.
>
> Someone mentioned something about some type of solenoid (sp?) cables??
> That may have some corrosion on it that may be causing my problems. If
> that is the case what would I do?
>
> And where is the starter located and how hard would it be to change it
> myself? Taking simple stuff apart should be problem.
>



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Old 08 Nov 2006, 06:04 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On 8 Nov 2006 09:37:34 -0800, tareqmd@gmail.com wrote:

>I have a 1998 Camry
>
>I am pretty new with stuff in the cars, but I am very a do it yourself
>type person so I have some questions. Any help from anyone would be
>greatly appreciated.
>
>My car won't start on the first turn. On the first turn it just makes
>a click noise. At first, on the second turn it would start no problem.
> Now (I think because it has gotten colder) it takes about 6-10 turns
>(each time it clicks). I believe it may be a problem with the starter
>but not too sure. There is a lot of corrosion around the nodes on the
>battery I was wondering if that would affect anything.
>
>Someone mentioned something about some type of solenoid (sp?) cables??
>That may have some corrosion on it that may be causing my problems. If
>that is the case what would I do?
>
>And where is the starter located and how hard would it be to change it
>myself? Taking simple stuff apart should be problem.



http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/starter/

http://oregonstate.edu/~tongt/camry/index.html
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Old 09 Nov 2006, 11:02 am   #9 (permalink)
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hey all thanks for all the help and suggestions

i just cleaned my terminal connections with steel wool

ill check in the morning if it starts fine (as it only happens when the
car hasnt run for like atleast 4 hours)

if that didnt work ill try checking the solenoid connections, but i am
not too sure where that is

thanks again

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Old 09 Nov 2006, 02:39 pm   #10 (permalink)
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I had a similar problem about a year ago with my 99 Camry.

1. How old is your battery? These days they tend to last only 2 - 5
years.
2. Ended up having to replace the starter. Relatively easy, I know
almost nothing about fixing a car and I was able to do it. I didn't
need to get under the car like the previous poster mentioned. It's
next to the battery and I only needed a wrench to remove it I believe.

Pen


tareqmd@gmail.com wrote:
> hey all thanks for all the help and suggestions
>
> i just cleaned my terminal connections with steel wool
>
> ill check in the morning if it starts fine (as it only happens when the
> car hasnt run for like atleast 4 hours)
>
> if that didnt work ill try checking the solenoid connections, but i am
> not too sure where that is
>
> thanks again


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