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Old 23 Nov 2006, 12:17 pm   #1 (permalink)
Pszemol
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I am an owner of 1995 camry with an driver/passenger airbags.
I have just noticed on the visor warning label that the airbags
require maintenance after 10 years from the date of manufacturing.

What this "airbag maintenance" really is in technical terms ?
Can it be done at the dealer for free, as a part of
the vehicle safety components (together with seatbelts, etc) ?
Anybody with older car has this done already ?
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Old 23 Nov 2006, 03:47 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Pszemol wrote:
> I am an owner of 1995 camry with an driver/passenger airbags.
> I have just noticed on the visor warning label that the airbags
> require maintenance after 10 years from the date of manufacturing.
>
> What this "airbag maintenance" really is in technical terms ?
> Can it be done at the dealer for free, as a part of
> the vehicle safety components (together with seatbelts, etc) ?
> Anybody with older car has this done already ?



When we requested this "air bag maintainance" (same reason:
the note on the visor), the dealer told us that no such
maintainance was needed. Maybe Toyota was playing it safe, and
later found that their equipment is, as usual, long-lived.
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Old 23 Nov 2006, 04:25 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Pszemol wrote:

> What this "airbag maintenance" really is in technical terms ?


In theory the technician should put a dummy load on the squib circuit
and check that the backup capacitor can fire the charge if battery
power is lost. He should also check the accelerometers.

What is this "free" of which you speak? What is free in America?

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Old 23 Nov 2006, 08:53 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Originally all manufacturers recommended service at 10 years. But I
remember that at least one manufacturer, I think it was Volvo, had tested 20
year old airbags and found all worked fine.



"Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
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>I am an owner of 1995 camry with an driver/passenger airbags.
> I have just noticed on the visor warning label that the airbags
> require maintenance after 10 years from the date of manufacturing.
>
> What this "airbag maintenance" really is in technical terms ?
> Can it be done at the dealer for free, as a part of
> the vehicle safety components (together with seatbelts, etc) ?
> Anybody with older car has this done already ?



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Old 23 Nov 2006, 08:57 pm   #5 (permalink)
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"Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
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>I am an owner of 1995 camry with an driver/passenger airbags.
> I have just noticed on the visor warning label that the airbags
> require maintenance after 10 years from the date of manufacturing.
>
> What this "airbag maintenance" really is in technical terms ?
> Can it be done at the dealer for free, as a part of
> the vehicle safety components (together with seatbelts, etc) ?
> Anybody with older car has this done already ?


The factory service manual does not list a maintenance procedure for the air
bag.
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Old 24 Nov 2006, 01:57 am   #6 (permalink)
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Pszemol wrote:
> I am an owner of 1995 camry with an driver/passenger airbags.
> I have just noticed on the visor warning label that the airbags
> require maintenance after 10 years from the date of manufacturing.
>
> What this "airbag maintenance" really is in technical terms ?
> Can it be done at the dealer for free, as a part of
> the vehicle safety components (together with seatbelts, etc) ?
> Anybody with older car has this done already ?



FWIW, i saw a 1984 S-class benz at the pick-a-part that still had the
drivers side airbag. never knew they were available that long ago.
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Old 24 Nov 2006, 09:33 am   #7 (permalink)
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"larwe" <zwsdotcom@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1164320719.526735.188880@l39g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Pszemol wrote:
>
>> What this "airbag maintenance" really is in technical terms ?

>
> In theory the technician should put a dummy load on the squib circuit
> and check that the backup capacitor can fire the charge if battery
> power is lost. He should also check the accelerometers.


Can you please point me to some service manuals describing this procedure?

> What is this "free" of which you speak? What is free in America?


By "free" I meant "free of charge to customer".
In other words: on warranty :-)
I am not sure if this is true, but I have heard that problems with
seat belts are fixed free of charge under the presumption that
it is safety equipment of your car you are forced by law to use.
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Old 24 Nov 2006, 12:43 pm   #8 (permalink)
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Pszemol wrote:
> I am an owner of 1995 camry with an driver/passenger airbags.
> I have just noticed on the visor warning label that the airbags
> require maintenance after 10 years from the date of manufacturing.
>
> What this "airbag maintenance" really is in technical terms ?
> Can it be done at the dealer for free, as a part of
> the vehicle safety components (together with seatbelts, etc) ?
> Anybody with older car has this done already ?

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The main check for the Owner is to observe that the airbag light
iluuminates on the dash with the key in the "on" position and then goes
out when the car is started. This reflects the self test procedure for
the air bag circuits has been completed.
I thought I saw something in the Factory Service Manual about checking
the air bag connections for corrosion, but I'm not sure. Those
connections are quite robust. I think they're yellow in color with a
fold over locking latch and accordian rubber seals on both sides.
There doesn't seem to be any procedure for taking the car to the dealer
to perform a "10 year aig bag service."

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Old 24 Nov 2006, 01:47 pm   #9 (permalink)
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"Daniel" <nospampls2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1164393799.011904.243120@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> There doesn't seem to be any procedure for taking the car to the dealer
> to perform a "10 year aig bag service."


Why would they put such a thing then on the visor sticker ?
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Old 24 Nov 2006, 02:53 pm   #10 (permalink)
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"Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
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> "larwe" <zwsdotcom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1164320719.526735.188880@l39g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>> Pszemol wrote:
>>
>>> What this "airbag maintenance" really is in technical terms ?

>>
>> In theory the technician should put a dummy load on the squib circuit
>> and check that the backup capacitor can fire the charge if battery
>> power is lost. He should also check the accelerometers.

>
> Can you please point me to some service manuals describing this procedure?
>


The inspection process outlined in the factory repair manual is to hook up
the diagnostic scanner and check for trouble codes and make sure that the
air bag cover is not damaged or deformed. Hooking up the scanner to check
for trouble codes is redundant, since the air bag malfunction warning light
would illuminate if there are any trouble codes stored.

>> What is this "free" of which you speak? What is free in America?

>
> By "free" I meant "free of charge to customer".
> In other words: on warranty :-)
> I am not sure if this is true, but I have heard that problems with
> seat belts are fixed free of charge under the presumption that
> it is safety equipment of your car you are forced by law to use.


The warranty for seat belts and supplemental restraint systems is the same
as the base vehicle and is not lifetime.

There is a lot of safety equipment in a modern passenger vehicle that does
not have a lifetime warranty like rearview mirrors, laminated windshield,
tempered glass, headlights, tail lights, brake lights, dual channel brakes,
collapsible steering column, side impact door beams, head restraints, padded
dash, crumple zones in the chassis and body, horn, fuel pump shutoff, dual
hood latch, door latches, center high mounted stop lamp, etc. If you
include optional equipment like antilock brakes, traction control,
electronic stability control, seat belt pre-tensioners, laser cruise
control, etc., then most of the vehicle would be covered for life.
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