Toyota Camry (Automatic) 95 stalls after 30 minutes

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Old 30 Nov 2006, 10:45 pm   #1 (permalink)
ChicagoanAtOakPark@gmail.com
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Default Toyota Camry (Automatic) 95 stalls after 30 minutes

Hi!

I have a toyota camry 1995, which has recently started stalling for no
apparent reason. It starts fine, runs fine for 15-30 minutes and then
starts giving trouble. Eventually it dies, it will start again a few
times, but after another 15-30 minutes it refuses. After 5 minutes it
recovers just enought to start, and continues to stall. The only way to
run it then is to use both accelarator and brake... not pleasant!

I have had it tuned, inspected by mechanic for a whole day and he
couldnt find what was wrong with it. I am a broke student. someone help
me out please.

I read online it could be EGR, but they usually give trouble even when
car is cold, I have no idea. Could someone tell me how to test the EGR
valve? Ive heard its expensive (for a student).

Oh. and my car's muffler has been asking for repair for a while (6
months) but I chose to ignore it, and now i have to ignore it as i paid
for tune up.

thanks in advance!!!

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Old 30 Nov 2006, 10:58 pm   #2 (permalink)
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<ChicagoanAtOakPark@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi!
>
> I have a toyota camry 1995, which has recently started stalling for no
> apparent reason. It starts fine, runs fine for 15-30 minutes and then
> starts giving trouble. Eventually it dies, it will start again a few
> times, but after another 15-30 minutes it refuses. After 5 minutes it
> recovers just enought to start, and continues to stall. The only way to
> run it then is to use both accelarator and brake... not pleasant!
>
> I have had it tuned, inspected by mechanic for a whole day and he
> couldnt find what was wrong with it. I am a broke student. someone help
> me out please.
>
> I read online it could be EGR, but they usually give trouble even when
> car is cold, I have no idea. Could someone tell me how to test the EGR
> valve? Ive heard its expensive (for a student).
>


I just hope it is not the same sensor that went out on my 91 Camry. That
car was acting similar to yours. Forgot what it was called. Some kind of
air flow or mass flow sensor.
Anyway it was about a $ 600 sensor.


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Old 30 Nov 2006, 11:33 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Ralph Mowery wrote:

> <ChicagoanAtOakPark@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1164948317.041986.232850@l12g2000cwl.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>I have a toyota camry 1995, which has recently started stalling for no
>>apparent reason. It starts fine, runs fine for 15-30 minutes and then
>>starts giving trouble. Eventually it dies, it will start again a few
>>times, but after another 15-30 minutes it refuses. After 5 minutes it
>>recovers just enought to start, and continues to stall. The only way to
>>run it then is to use both accelarator and brake... not pleasant!
>>
>>I have had it tuned, inspected by mechanic for a whole day and he
>>couldnt find what was wrong with it. I am a broke student. someone help
>>me out please.
>>
>>I read online it could be EGR, but they usually give trouble even when
>>car is cold, I have no idea. Could someone tell me how to test the EGR
>>valve? Ive heard its expensive (for a student).
>>

>
>
> I just hope it is not the same sensor that went out on my 91 Camry. That
> car was acting similar to yours. Forgot what it was called. Some kind of
> air flow or mass flow sensor.
> Anyway it was about a $ 600 sensor.
>
>


The '95 wagon we just bought just did the same thing. The
mechanic didn't really know what caused it; he suggested
replacing the (original!) plug wires, and a tuneup, and I told
him to replace the fuel filter as well. I'm hoping it was the
fuel filter...
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Old 01 Dec 2006, 12:08 pm   #4 (permalink)
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ChicagoanAtOakPark@gmail.com wrote:> Hi!
>
> I have a toyota camry 1995, which has recently started stalling for no
> apparent reason. It starts fine, runs fine for 15-30 minutes and then
> starts giving trouble.

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My first guess would be a temperature sensor if it does this only when
the engine warms.
BTW, if you have a four cylinder there is no MAF sensor, you have a MAP
sensor instead but I highly doubt that's the problem.
You say you have muffler problems. If there is a restriction, that
could also be causing the engine to die - typcially more noticeable at
higher engine speeds.
If you are running rich with black smoke coming out of the exhaust when
the engine dies, that indicates the computer is receiving a signal that
the engine is still cold and adding extra fuel. That would explain why
it runs well when cold only.
If you have the 4 cyl. there should be a sensor with a green plastic
top at the water outlet near the distributor that should be checked.
You can find factory service manuals online, and an inexpensive digital
volt ohm meter will allow you to test your sensor to see if it needs
replacement.
http://www.turboninjas.com/camry/
You would check the section describing your engine.

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Old 02 Dec 2006, 02:05 am   #5 (permalink)
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Does engine light come on? If so, check for error codes...

Can be sometihng as simple as the tempurature sensor (the one that opens EGR
valve, for recycling air)
Coulld be EGR valve itself. Could be air flow meter.

Get the code, if there's one.


<ChicagoanAtOakPark@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1164948317.041986.232850@l12g2000cwl.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi!
>
> I have a toyota camry 1995, which has recently started stalling for no
> apparent reason. It starts fine, runs fine for 15-30 minutes and then
> starts giving trouble. Eventually it dies, it will start again a few
> times, but after another 15-30 minutes it refuses. After 5 minutes it
> recovers just enought to start, and continues to stall. The only way to
> run it then is to use both accelarator and brake... not pleasant!
>
> I have had it tuned, inspected by mechanic for a whole day and he
> couldnt find what was wrong with it. I am a broke student. someone help
> me out please.
>
> I read online it could be EGR, but they usually give trouble even when
> car is cold, I have no idea. Could someone tell me how to test the EGR
> valve? Ive heard its expensive (for a student).
>
> Oh. and my car's muffler has been asking for repair for a while (6
> months) but I chose to ignore it, and now i have to ignore it as i paid
> for tune up.
>
> thanks in advance!!!
>



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Old 03 Dec 2006, 05:43 am   #6 (permalink)
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I went to a new mechanic today he spent 2 hours on it... He said that
the car would stall on him, but except for one time it would always
start right back up. When it didn't start for a while he manage to
check that the sparking plugs etc was working fine, so he said it's
probably not electronic; probably fuel pump. He said he had to close
the shop and to bring it back on Monday. I asked him if could be bad
fuel, he said "no, bad fuel would make the car behave funny, not just
die"
Anyways, so I am not sure if I made this clear:

The car stalls no matter if it is in N or D, but D sometimes kills it
quicker. When sufficiently warm, it just dies, no other quirks.
Sometimes it survives a stall when I accelerate hard. Sometimes giving
it acceleration cures the problem temporarily. However, the main
problem with mechanics has been reproducing the problem to the extent
that they can diagnose it. Does this mechanic sound good or should I
take it to another, or do some other diagnosis.

I forgot to ask him if he checked the EGR valve

lee_melnikov wrote:
> Does engine light come on? If so, check for error codes...
>
> Can be sometihng as simple as the tempurature sensor (the one that opens EGR
> valve, for recycling air)
> Coulld be EGR valve itself. Could be air flow meter.
>
> Get the code, if there's one.
>
>
> <ChicagoanAtOakPark@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1164948317.041986.232850@l12g2000cwl.googlegr oups.com...
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have a toyota camry 1995, which has recently started stalling for no
> > apparent reason. It starts fine, runs fine for 15-30 minutes and then
> > starts giving trouble. Eventually it dies, it will start again a few
> > times, but after another 15-30 minutes it refuses. After 5 minutes it
> > recovers just enought to start, and continues to stall. The only way to
> > run it then is to use both accelarator and brake... not pleasant!
> >
> > I have had it tuned, inspected by mechanic for a whole day and he
> > couldnt find what was wrong with it. I am a broke student. someone help
> > me out please.
> >
> > I read online it could be EGR, but they usually give trouble even when
> > car is cold, I have no idea. Could someone tell me how to test the EGR
> > valve? Ive heard its expensive (for a student).
> >
> > Oh. and my car's muffler has been asking for repair for a while (6
> > months) but I chose to ignore it, and now i have to ignore it as i paid
> > for tune up.
> >
> > thanks in advance!!!
> >


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Old 03 Dec 2006, 07:50 am   #7 (permalink)
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How is the venting system of your fuel tank?
Does it work properly?

"chicagoan" <ChicagoanAtOakPark@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I went to a new mechanic today he spent 2 hours on it... He said that
> the car would stall on him, but except for one time it would always
> start right back up. When it didn't start for a while he manage to
> check that the sparking plugs etc was working fine, so he said it's
> probably not electronic; probably fuel pump. He said he had to close
> the shop and to bring it back on Monday. I asked him if could be bad
> fuel, he said "no, bad fuel would make the car behave funny, not just
> die"
> Anyways, so I am not sure if I made this clear:
>
> The car stalls no matter if it is in N or D, but D sometimes kills it
> quicker. When sufficiently warm, it just dies, no other quirks.
> Sometimes it survives a stall when I accelerate hard. Sometimes giving
> it acceleration cures the problem temporarily. However, the main
> problem with mechanics has been reproducing the problem to the extent
> that they can diagnose it. Does this mechanic sound good or should I
> take it to another, or do some other diagnosis.
>
> I forgot to ask him if he checked the EGR valve
>
> lee_melnikov wrote:
>> Does engine light come on? If so, check for error codes...
>>
>> Can be sometihng as simple as the tempurature sensor (the one that opens
>> EGR
>> valve, for recycling air)
>> Coulld be EGR valve itself. Could be air flow meter.
>>
>> Get the code, if there's one.
>>
>>
>> <ChicagoanAtOakPark@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1164948317.041986.232850@l12g2000cwl.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > I have a toyota camry 1995, which has recently started stalling for no
>> > apparent reason. It starts fine, runs fine for 15-30 minutes and then
>> > starts giving trouble. Eventually it dies, it will start again a few
>> > times, but after another 15-30 minutes it refuses. After 5 minutes it
>> > recovers just enought to start, and continues to stall. The only way to
>> > run it then is to use both accelarator and brake... not pleasant!
>> >
>> > I have had it tuned, inspected by mechanic for a whole day and he
>> > couldnt find what was wrong with it. I am a broke student. someone help
>> > me out please.
>> >
>> > I read online it could be EGR, but they usually give trouble even when
>> > car is cold, I have no idea. Could someone tell me how to test the EGR
>> > valve? Ive heard its expensive (for a student).
>> >
>> > Oh. and my car's muffler has been asking for repair for a while (6
>> > months) but I chose to ignore it, and now i have to ignore it as i paid
>> > for tune up.
>> >
>> > thanks in advance!!!
>> >

>



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Old 03 Dec 2006, 07:59 am   #8 (permalink)
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chicagoan wrote:
> I went to a new mechanic today he spent 2 hours on it.

====================
If you can find a Toyota dealer with a good service department,
sometimes their familiarity with the brand can work to your benefit
since they service only Toyotas they may be more likely to identify
typical problem areas and have the diagnostic and test equipment and
current information to isolate the fault.

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Old 03 Dec 2006, 09:02 am   #9 (permalink)
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"Daniel" <nospampls2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> chicagoan wrote:
>> I went to a new mechanic today he spent 2 hours on it.

> ====================
> If you can find a Toyota dealer with a good service department,
> sometimes their familiarity with the brand can work to your benefit
> since they service only Toyotas they may be more likely to identify
> typical problem areas and have the diagnostic and test equipment and
> current information to isolate the fault.
>


That may be a probelm. It is hard to find a good service department at a
dealer. As soon as teh service people learn about the cars, they go in
business for theirselves in this area. I took my 91 Camry to a dealer
because of similar simptoms. The chart on Autozone or one of the other web
sits mentioned a sensor that could cost $ 500 or more. I took it to a
dealer thinking they could check it out. They replaced several other things
to the tune of about $ 200 before the expensive sensor. It took so long I
emailed the Toyota headquartes and got a very nice email back from them
telling me they would check with the dealership. Finally got the car back
after 3 weeks, and the expensive sensor was the problem.



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Old 04 Dec 2006, 03:41 pm   #10 (permalink)
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my mother is having the same problem with her 95 camry we spent over
800$ trying to find the problem but wasn't successful but the sad part
Toyota see this kind of stuff every day and they act like they do know
what the problem is i just was online trying to see if i can learn
something new and i did (a 600.00 sensor) could this really be the
problem i mean my mothers car is doing the same thing and is it
something i could check my self and fix what kind of sensor is it
Ralph Mowery wrote:
> "Daniel" <nospampls2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1165154360.289964.256610@j44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > chicagoan wrote:
> >> I went to a new mechanic today he spent 2 hours on it.

> > ====================
> > If you can find a Toyota dealer with a good service department,
> > sometimes their familiarity with the brand can work to your benefit
> > since they service only Toyotas they may be more likely to identify
> > typical problem areas and have the diagnostic and test equipment and
> > current information to isolate the fault.
> >

>
> That may be a probelm. It is hard to find a good service department at a
> dealer. As soon as teh service people learn about the cars, they go in
> business for theirselves in this area. I took my 91 Camry to a dealer
> because of similar simptoms. The chart on Autozone or one of the other web
> sits mentioned a sensor that could cost $ 500 or more. I took it to a
> dealer thinking they could check it out. They replaced several other things
> to the tune of about $ 200 before the expensive sensor. It took so long I
> emailed the Toyota headquartes and got a very nice email back from them
> telling me they would check with the dealership. Finally got the car back
> after 3 weeks, and the expensive sensor was the problem.


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