Any Issues With Camry LE 2007 ?

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Old 09 Dec 2006, 07:16 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Hi....I'm considering buying a Camry LE 2007; anyone know of a known
issues already?

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Old 09 Dec 2006, 09:12 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Some of the auto transmissions are known to skip gears. Owners reported
the tranny going into neutral when trying to accelerate. This happened
intermittently that dealers couldn't even find the problem. Make sure
the car is already fixed under the side air bag recall or have new side
air bags. Earlier side air bags doon't inflate properly. I'd always
wait a year before touching a new model production.


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> Hi....I'm considering buying a Camry LE 2007; anyone know of a known
> issues already?
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> Thank you


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Old 09 Dec 2006, 11:57 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Which transmission has more issues? the 5 speed ECTi or 6 Speed with
tiptronic shifting?
Aren't they the same transmission used on the Avalon, Solara or Scion
TC? (Scion TC use the same 2.4L 4 cyl) or others?

On Dec 9, 7:12 pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Some of the auto transmissions are known to skip gears. Owners reported
> the tranny going into neutral when trying to accelerate. This happened
> intermittently that dealers couldn't even find the problem. Make sure
> the car is already fixed under the side air bag recall or have new side
> air bags. Earlier side air bags doon't inflate properly. I'd always
> wait a year before touching a new model production.
>
>
>
> Mike - wrote:
> > Hi....I'm considering buying a Camry LE 2007; anyone know of a known
> > issues already?

>
> > Thank you- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -


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Old 10 Dec 2006, 03:32 pm   #4 (permalink)
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The 2002-2006 had two different transmissions. First the 5 speed and
then the 6 speed. But not sure about the 2007. The 07 tranny was said
to be made by a company other than Aisin and had a different id number.


Aisin was an ok, kinda dirty of a transmission. They had their problems
but were generally ok for the average driver over the years. But IMO
the new tranny is junk with 20% fewer parts. I didn't know Aisin would
have 20% of optional parts stuffed in their trannies.


EdV wrote:
> Which transmission has more issues? the 5 speed ECTi or 6 Speed with
> tiptronic shifting?
> Aren't they the same transmission used on the Avalon, Solara or Scion
> TC? (Scion TC use the same 2.4L 4 cyl) or others?


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Old 11 Dec 2006, 01:31 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Whats the real issue then? the 20% fewer parts or the logic control
behind? same logic is used on other cars right? and same transmissions
too? do we know if the same issues are encountered on other toyotas?
logic controls the shifting doesn't it?

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Old 11 Dec 2006, 07:40 pm   #6 (permalink)
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What I meant was that 20% of the parts in a typical 5/6 speed tranny
were taken out probably didn't help in this case. It's not clear if
it's the valve body (including shift solenoids) or gear hardware as
little detail was released.

I doubt it's a control unit programming issue, because the 2002-2006's
shudder problem would have been easily solved but was not.

I was trying to quickly find the original toyota news release on
affected vehicles, but haven't found it yet.


EdV wrote:
> Whats the real issue then? the 20% fewer parts or the logic control
> behind? same logic is used on other cars right? and same transmissions
> too? do we know if the same issues are encountered on other toyotas?
> logic controls the shifting doesn't it?


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Old 11 Dec 2006, 08:03 pm   #7 (permalink)
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So, they just took out 20% of the parts and didn't do any reengineering
of the transmission? That seems hard to believe? Its possible they can
reduce the number of parts but there will be some changes on the other
parts of it and not just taking it out.

I remember seeing a statement on the very first 07s but that was early
in 06 around Jan or Feb if I'm not mistaken.

On Dec 11, 5:40 pm, johngd...@hotmail.com wrote:
> What I meant was that 20% of the parts in a typical 5/6 speed tranny
> were taken out probably didn't help in this case. It's not clear if
> it's the valve body (including shift solenoids) or gear hardware as
> little detail was released.
>
> I doubt it's a control unit programming issue, because the 2002-2006's
> shudder problem would have been easily solved but was not.
>
> I was trying to quickly find the original toyota news release on
> affected vehicles, but haven't found it yet.
>
> EdV wrote:
> > Whats the real issue then? the 20% fewer parts or the logic control
> > behind? same logic is used on other cars right? and same transmissions
> > too? do we know if the same issues are encountered on other toyotas?
> > logic controls the shifting doesn't it?


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Old 11 Dec 2006, 08:08 pm   #8 (permalink)
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Just found the following post on Edmunds Town Talk from one owner two
days ago, you can read the whole message there:

==============================
#2604 of 2610 XLE V6 - Two botched repair jobs by toyotacarfan Dec
09, 2006 (3:07 pm)

I am having a heck of a time getting satisfaction from Toyota and my
3-month old loaded $30K Camry XLE V6. Immediately after I bought it, it
had the 3rd-4th gear shift flare when cold, which progressively got
worse (higher RPM flares). When I took it to the selling dealer, they
said all was normal, and fed me nonsense about the new high-tech
transmission needing to learn my driving patterns, and I was likely not
enabling it to do so by not using premium fuel or driving in a
consistent manner. So I took it to another dealer, which confirmed the
problem and did the valve body TSB replacement.

After the valve body replacement, the flares occurred even after the
engine was warm, and the cold engine flares were 1000 RPM in magnitude.
On one occasion, when I pressed the gas after coasting momentarily and
making a right turn at a busy intersection to go up a hill, the
transmission refused to engage, and the car slowed nearly to a halt.
After about 5 seconds of the motor spinning helplessly while the
transmission was disengaged and while other drivers were swerving
around me and honking angrily, I heard a "bang" under the hood, and the
car lurched violently forward.

[snip]
==============================

My condolences to owners of such vehicles. I'll keep my friends away
from the 07 Camrys for now.




EdV wrote:
> So, they just took out 20% of the parts and didn't do any reengineering
> of the transmission? That seems hard to believe? Its possible they can
> reduce the number of parts but there will be some changes on the other
> parts of it and not just taking it out.
>
> I remember seeing a statement on the very first 07s but that was early
> in 06 around Jan or Feb if I'm not mistaken.


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