1995 LE Four Automatic: Options for Marginal Transmission?

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Old 12 Dec 2006, 10:08 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1995 LE Four Automatic: Options for Marginal Transmission?

The wagon we bought recently shifts ok when cold, but more
harshly and at higher RPM when warm. The fluid is burned, even
though it was power fluashed a year and 4k miles ago. Not so
surprising, because that flush was apparently the first fluid
change since the 60k mile service (mileage is now 108k). So, what
is my best bet for prolonging the transmission life and improving
the shifts? I was told another flush might make it worse or cause
failure, so I was thinking about having the pan dropped and
cleaned, the screen replaced, a plain fluid change, and maybe, if
there is a genuinely good additive for this, putting some in.
Suggestions?
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Old 12 Dec 2006, 10:34 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Who did the flush??? You need to use the correct type of fluid

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Old 13 Dec 2006, 03:38 am   #3 (permalink)
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Buy Haynes Repair Manual. Drain transmission. Remove pan. Clean
strainer. Gasoline OK for solvent. Take pan to NAPA. Buy correct
gasket. Put small amount of grease on both sides of gasket. Reinstall
pan. Refill transmission. Add SIX quarts of ATF. Start motor. Run
through gears at idle speed for several minutes. Drain ATF. Repeat.
Drain and refill. Then drive and enjoy wagon. If that doesn't work,
sell it to me. Where are you located? I am in California.

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Old 13 Dec 2006, 04:46 am   #4 (permalink)
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sqdancerLynn wrote:
> Who did the flush??? You need to use the correct type of fluid
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The flush was done by a Toyota dealer.
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Old 13 Dec 2006, 04:51 am   #5 (permalink)
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wp51 wrote:

> Buy Haynes Repair Manual. Drain transmission. Remove pan. Clean
> strainer. Gasoline OK for solvent. Take pan to NAPA. Buy correct
> gasket. Put small amount of grease on both sides of gasket. Reinstall
> pan. Refill transmission. Add SIX quarts of ATF. Start motor. Run
> through gears at idle speed for several minutes. Drain ATF. Repeat.
> Drain and refill. Then drive and enjoy wagon. If that doesn't work,
> sell it to me. Where are you located? I am in California.
>


I'm in upstate NY. I'll be having the work done, not doing
it myself. What I want to know is, what's the best course of
action to improve the life and operation of this abused
transmission? You say two drain and fills, along with the
pan/filter cleaning. Thanks for the input. It pretty much agrees
with my thoughts. Any Toyota techs here?

Oh, and is the strainer so expensive that I'd want to reuse a
(presumably) gummed up one, even after cleaning? Why not use a
new part?
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Old 13 Dec 2006, 07:53 am   #6 (permalink)
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The toy dealer did not change the filter, did they know it wasnt ever
done, if so blame them. Drop the pan and change the fluid dont listen to
naysayers on this. If it gets real bad and you cant get a cheap
mechanical fix thicker oil helps, I used 140w gear lube on a soon to be
junker. It helped alot. There are some additives that are maybe 200w or
whatever that might help. Your enemy is heat, a Trans cooler will help.

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Old 13 Dec 2006, 12:19 pm   #7 (permalink)
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mjc<DELETETHIS>13 wrote:
> there is a genuinely good additive for this

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You could try Lucas Transmission Fix.

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Old 13 Dec 2006, 03:12 pm   #8 (permalink)
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Daniel wrote:
> mjc<DELETETHIS>13 wrote:
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>>there is a genuinely good additive for this

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> =====
> You could try Lucas Transmission Fix.
>


Thanks.
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Old 19 Dec 2006, 09:48 pm   #9 (permalink)
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:53:07 -0600, m Ransley wrote:

> The toy dealer did not change the filter, did they know it wasnt ever
> done, if so blame them. Drop the pan and change the fluid dont listen to
> naysayers on this. If it gets real bad and you cant get a cheap mechanical
> fix thicker oil helps, I used 140w gear lube on a soon to be junker. It
> helped alot. There are some additives that are maybe 200w or whatever that
> might help. Your enemy is heat, a Trans cooler will help.



HAY! Where the hell you been? Hmmmm?

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Old 19 Dec 2006, 09:55 pm   #10 (permalink)
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:51:08 +0000, mjc<DELETETHIS>13 wrote:

> wp51 wrote:
>
>> Buy Haynes Repair Manual. Drain transmission. Remove pan. Clean
>> strainer. Gasoline OK for solvent. Take pan to NAPA. Buy correct
>> gasket. Put small amount of grease on both sides of gasket. Reinstall
>> pan. Refill transmission. Add SIX quarts of ATF. Start motor. Run
>> through gears at idle speed for several minutes. Drain ATF. Repeat.
>> Drain and refill. Then drive and enjoy wagon. If that doesn't work,
>> sell it to me. Where are you located? I am in California.
>>
>>

> I'm in upstate NY. I'll be having the work done, not doing
> it myself. What I want to know is, what's the best course of action to
> improve the life and operation of this abused transmission? You say two
> drain and fills, along with the pan/filter cleaning. Thanks for the input.
> It pretty much agrees with my thoughts. Any Toyota techs here?
>
> Oh, and is the strainer so expensive that I'd want to reuse a
> (presumably) gummed up one, even after cleaning? Why not use a new part?



I have yet to see a badly gummed up strainer, even on cars that have a
couple hundred thou on them.

The strainer is a screen; unless the screen is damaged, then it can be
cleaned and reused. Some say you can use Gas for this; you CAN but make
sure it's all gone before replacing the screen. Also, make sure the rest
of the filter assy is free of gummy residue.

A new filter costs a whopping $12-18 at a parts store, and about $22 or
more from Toyota.

And a note on Flushing: the brown/black you're seeing is the friction
material from the clutches and brakes in the tranny. They're what make the
car go. I have a Supra that I don't think EVER had a trans service; the
fluid is BLACK as bad oil! I'm scared to death to do ANYTHING to this
transmission, since the car is running. Removing the 'black' removes the
friction material; the reason so many trannys fail after a flushing is
that there IS no more friction material left in the tranny to move the car!


Let me know what happens...I live in Mass, and am looking for a Camry
wagon! (like, I need ANOTHER car!)


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