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Old 13 Dec 2006, 11:36 am   #1 (permalink)
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Re: 1988 Camry I4 station wagon. No matter how hard/fast I yank on
the shoulder or lap belts for either side of the front, they do not
lock up. So they seem to be totally useless for protection in an
accident. How can this be? all four inertial reels are bad? Surely
not? Shouldn't they lock up with a hard yank?
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Old 13 Dec 2006, 11:59 am   #2 (permalink)
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geronimo wrote:
> Re: 1988 Camry I4 station wagon. No matter how hard/fast I yank on
> the shoulder or lap belts for either side of the front, they do not
> lock up. So they seem to be totally useless for protection in an
> accident. How can this be? all four inertial reels are bad? Surely
> not? Shouldn't they lock up with a hard yank?


They won't lock up unless you are braking or decerating.
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Old 13 Dec 2006, 12:00 pm   #3 (permalink)
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geronimo wrote:
> Re: 1988 Camry I4 station wagon. No matter how hard/fast I yank on
> the shoulder or lap belts for either side of the front, they do not
> lock up. So they seem to be totally useless for protection in an
> accident. How can this be? all four inertial reels are bad? Surely
> not? Shouldn't they lock up with a hard yank?


Yhey won't lock up unless you're Braking or decelerating.

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Old 13 Dec 2006, 02:38 pm   #4 (permalink)
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How is that? Unless there is an accelerometer to sense g-forces that
activates them. Thanks, Geronimo


On 13 Dec 2006 10:00:08 -0800, ottguit@hotmail.com wrote:

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>geronimo wrote:
>> Re: 1988 Camry I4 station wagon. No matter how hard/fast I yank on
>> the shoulder or lap belts for either side of the front, they do not
>> lock up. So they seem to be totally useless for protection in an
>> accident. How can this be? all four inertial reels are bad? Surely
>> not? Shouldn't they lock up with a hard yank?

>
>Yhey won't lock up unless you're Braking or decelerating.

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Old 13 Dec 2006, 03:26 pm   #5 (permalink)
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"geronimo" <Jamesw@grandecom.net> wrote in message
news:12p0o2ls7l5t56n18eu07ahbjv8v1ihmk1@4ax.com...
> How is that? Unless there is an accelerometer to sense g-forces that
> activates them. Thanks, Geronimo
>
>
> On 13 Dec 2006 10:00:08 -0800, ottguit@hotmail.com wrote:
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>>
>>geronimo wrote:
>>> Re: 1988 Camry I4 station wagon. No matter how hard/fast I yank on
>>> the shoulder or lap belts for either side of the front, they do not
>>> lock up. So they seem to be totally useless for protection in an
>>> accident. How can this be? all four inertial reels are bad? Surely
>>> not? Shouldn't they lock up with a hard yank?

>>
>>Yhey won't lock up unless you're Braking or decelerating.



"geronimo" <Jamesw@grandecom.net> wrote in message
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> How is that? Unless there is an accelerometer to sense g-forces that
> activates them. Thanks, Geronimo


I believe there is a pendulum that activates them..........A decelerometer
of sorts.
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Old 13 Dec 2006, 04:04 pm   #6 (permalink)
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:38:09 -0600, geronimo
<Jamesw@grandecom.net> wrote:

>How is that? Unless there is an accelerometer to sense g-forces that
>activates them. Thanks, Geronimo
>
>
>On 13 Dec 2006 10:00:08 -0800, ottguit@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>>geronimo wrote:
>>> Re: 1988 Camry I4 station wagon. No matter how hard/fast I yank on
>>> the shoulder or lap belts for either side of the front, they do not
>>> lock up. So they seem to be totally useless for protection in an
>>> accident. How can this be? all four inertial reels are bad? Surely
>>> not? Shouldn't they lock up with a hard yank?

>>
>>Yhey won't lock up unless you're Braking or decelerating.



Think of a weight swinging like a pendalum, sudden stop,
weight swings forward and locks the belt.


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Old 14 Dec 2006, 08:45 am   #7 (permalink)
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I don't have any info on this at all, such as operators manual...is
there any way to test the belts? (Short of running into a wall ;-) )


On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:04:56 GMT, Slim Pickings <starvin@feast.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:38:09 -0600, geronimo
><Jamesw@grandecom.net> wrote:
>
>>How is that? Unless there is an accelerometer to sense g-forces that
>>activates them. Thanks, Geronimo
>>
>>
>>On 13 Dec 2006 10:00:08 -0800, ottguit@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>geronimo wrote:
>>>> Re: 1988 Camry I4 station wagon. No matter how hard/fast I yank on
>>>> the shoulder or lap belts for either side of the front, they do not
>>>> lock up. So they seem to be totally useless for protection in an
>>>> accident. How can this be? all four inertial reels are bad? Surely
>>>> not? Shouldn't they lock up with a hard yank?
>>>
>>>Yhey won't lock up unless you're Braking or decelerating.

>
>
>Think of a weight swinging like a pendalum, sudden stop,
>weight swings forward and locks the belt.
>
>
>Slim

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Old 15 Dec 2006, 08:57 pm   #8 (permalink)
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geronimo wrote:
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> I don't have any info on this at all, such as operators manual...is
> there any way to test the belts? (Short of running into a wall ;-) )
>
>


Sure. Get up to speed on a deserted highway and lay on the brakes real
hard while feeling the tension on the belt.
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Old 19 Dec 2006, 09:46 pm   #9 (permalink)
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:36:44 -0600, geronimo wrote:

> Re: 1988 Camry I4 station wagon. No matter how hard/fast I yank on the
> shoulder or lap belts for either side of the front, they do not lock up.
> So they seem to be totally useless for protection in an accident. How can
> this be? all four inertial reels are bad? Surely not? Shouldn't they lock
> up with a hard yank?



On the 1988 models, a hard yank won't lock it up. That ended around 1980!
But, put your belt on, snug it down as tight as you can stand, and then
snug it down again, and drive down a bumpy road. It should lock up.
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