1988 toyota camry will not start help me please!!!!

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Old 03 Jan 2007, 03:26 am   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1988 toyota camry will not start help me please!!!!

ok here is the situation i have a 1988 toyota camry it has 260,000
niles on it timming belt was replaced 15,000 miles ago.
ok ive had a repeating problem
1st 9 months ago the car started to hesitate then it stalled and would
not start. I let it sit for a few days then it started fine and i drove
it home. Next day it would not start. So I replaced xpark plugs and
distributor cap and rotor and wires. after car started right up and ran
great for 3 months
then it happened again. this time i replace fuel filter and fuel pump
then new plugs, rotor, cap, wires
and new air filter and cleaned the heck out of the throttlebody/ fuel
injector thingy becasue it was black inside with gunk. anyways i worked
on it for a bout a week and it would not start. So i gave up and was
about to have it towed to shop. I let it sit for a week then went out
to try to start it before i had the tow truck come and get it. It
started up perfectly and had no more problems for 3 more months and
about 2000 miles of daily driving. Anyways last night it happened
again this time i was on the freeway about 30 miles from home. Car
started to hesitate and stalled. then it would not start. So i had to
push car off freway by myself, almost died doing it. So tonight i went
back to try to start it hoping it was not yet towed, anyways it started
but whenever i put it into 2nd gear it would stall. I drove it about 10
miles in 1st gear to the schucks parking lot. then i went in and talked
to them and bought the usual new plugs wires cap rotor. When i went
back out and tried to start car it would not start. I replaced plugs,
wires cap rotor. And it still would not start. Checked for spark and
its good on all 4. Also checked fuel filter for gas and it has gas.
Anyways my car will not start and its in the schucks parking lot and i
need to try again tommorow so any help or advice would sure be
appreciated. This time it seems that I willnot be able to get it
working without some expet help. Also it seems that the car turns over
real fast now much faster then usual but i might be just noticing
something that is not abnormal anyways help me out if you can if you
have any advice ill try anything! you can replay here or email me at
onedalla@gmail.com

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Old 03 Jan 2007, 09:01 am   #2 (permalink)
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I have the same year Camry....4 cyl 3SFE engine. If it has the
sound of turning over fast, faster than normal, that is a pretty
strong indication that the engine has lost compression. The timing
belt may not have been tensioned properly when changed and the timing
has jumped. Is there a check engine light? get a schraeder tee and
put it on your fuel line between the fuel rail and the fuel filter.
Then it is easy to connect a fuel press. gauge in to see if you have a
fuel delivery problem.


On 3 Jan 2007 01:26:20 -0800, onedalla@gmail.com wrote:

>ok here is the situation i have a 1988 toyota camry it has 260,000
>niles on it timming belt was replaced 15,000 miles ago.
>ok ive had a repeating problem
>1st 9 months ago the car started to hesitate then it stalled and would
>not start. I let it sit for a few days then it started fine and i drove
>it home. Next day it would not start. So I replaced xpark plugs and
>distributor cap and rotor and wires. after car started right up and ran
>great for 3 months
>then it happened again. this time i replace fuel filter and fuel pump
>then new plugs, rotor, cap, wires
>and new air filter and cleaned the heck out of the throttlebody/ fuel
>injector thingy becasue it was black inside with gunk. anyways i worked
>on it for a bout a week and it would not start. So i gave up and was
>about to have it towed to shop. I let it sit for a week then went out
>to try to start it before i had the tow truck come and get it. It
>started up perfectly and had no more problems for 3 more months and
>about 2000 miles of daily driving. Anyways last night it happened
>again this time i was on the freeway about 30 miles from home. Car
>started to hesitate and stalled. then it would not start. So i had to
>push car off freway by myself, almost died doing it. So tonight i went
>back to try to start it hoping it was not yet towed, anyways it started
>but whenever i put it into 2nd gear it would stall. I drove it about 10
>miles in 1st gear to the schucks parking lot. then i went in and talked
>to them and bought the usual new plugs wires cap rotor. When i went
>back out and tried to start car it would not start. I replaced plugs,
>wires cap rotor. And it still would not start. Checked for spark and
>its good on all 4. Also checked fuel filter for gas and it has gas.
>Anyways my car will not start and its in the schucks parking lot and i
>need to try again tommorow so any help or advice would sure be
>appreciated. This time it seems that I willnot be able to get it
>working without some expet help. Also it seems that the car turns over
>real fast now much faster then usual but i might be just noticing
>something that is not abnormal anyways help me out if you can if you
>have any advice ill try anything! you can replay here or email me at
>onedalla@gmail.com


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Old 03 Jan 2007, 09:39 am   #3 (permalink)
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> On 3 Jan 2007 01:26:20 -0800, onedalla@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> ok here is the situation i have a 1988 toyota camry it has 260,000
>> niles on it timming belt was replaced 15,000 miles ago.
>> ok ive had a repeating problem
>> 1st 9 months ago the car started to hesitate then it stalled and would
>> not start. I let it sit for a few days then it started fine and i drove
>> it home. Next day it would not start. So I replaced xpark plugs and
>> distributor cap and rotor and wires. after car started right up and ran
>> great for 3 months
>> then it happened again. this time i replace fuel filter and fuel pump
>> then new plugs, rotor, cap, wires
>> and new air filter and cleaned the heck out of the throttlebody/ fuel
>> injector thingy becasue it was black inside with gunk. anyways i worked
>> on it for a bout a week and it would not start.


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Other parts that can go intermittent on you are the coil and the
ignitor. Also the pickup coil in the distributor. All are difficult
to impossible to diagnose and not that cheap. A weak spark might appear
to test OK, but not be able to ignite the charge under high load. Make
sure when you test the spark that it is jumping the required distance.
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Old 06 Jan 2007, 05:08 pm   #4 (permalink)
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<onedalla@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> ok here is the situation i have a 1988 toyota camry it has 260,000
> niles on it timming belt was replaced 15,000 miles ago.
> ok ive had a repeating problem
> 1st 9 months ago the car started to hesitate then it stalled and would
> not start. I let it sit for a few days then it started fine and i drove
> it home. Next day it would not start. So I replaced xpark plugs and
> distributor cap and rotor and wires. after car started right up and ran
> great for 3 months
> then it happened again. this time i replace fuel filter and fuel pump
> then new plugs, rotor, cap, wires
> and new air filter and cleaned the heck out of the throttlebody/ fuel
> injector thingy becasue it was black inside with gunk. anyways i worked
> on it for a bout a week and it would not start. So i gave up and was
> about to have it towed to shop. I let it sit for a week then went out
> to try to start it before i had the tow truck come and get it. It
> started up perfectly and had no more problems for 3 more months and
> about 2000 miles of daily driving. Anyways last night it happened
> again this time i was on the freeway about 30 miles from home. Car
> started to hesitate and stalled. then it would not start. So i had to
> push car off freway by myself, almost died doing it. So tonight i went
> back to try to start it hoping it was not yet towed, anyways it started
> but whenever i put it into 2nd gear it would stall. I drove it about 10
> miles in 1st gear to the schucks parking lot. then i went in and talked
> to them and bought the usual new plugs wires cap rotor. When i went
> back out and tried to start car it would not start. I replaced plugs,
> wires cap rotor. And it still would not start. Checked for spark and
> its good on all 4. Also checked fuel filter for gas and it has gas.
> Anyways my car will not start and its in the schucks parking lot and i
> need to try again tommorow so any help or advice would sure be
> appreciated. This time it seems that I willnot be able to get it
> working without some expet help. Also it seems that the car turns over
> real fast now much faster then usual but i might be just noticing
> something that is not abnormal anyways help me out if you can if you
> have any advice ill try anything! you can replay here or email me at
> onedalla@gmail.com


This problem is a little confusing in that you have established there is
spark, replaced the spark-leads, plugs, rotor and cap,..there is fuel in the
filter and the problem is intermittant. So it follows there still maybe an
intermittancy in the spark and or fuel. Things like valve timing and other
large mechanical parts, do not go intermittant, they either work or do not.
In view of this, you need to check the tachometer needle is flicking upwards
while the engine is being cranked. This will confirm there is at least some
ignition occuring. Because it stalled when placed in 2nd gear, the fuel
delivery system may not be responding correctly. This points to fuel-rail
pressure. If the filter is marginal or almost fully blocked or the fuel-pump
is only just pumping, this could explain this symptom.

Intermittant fuel pressure is more likely to be the fuel-pump itself or a
wiring intermittancy in the battery supply to the pump.
Make sure you have adequate fuel pressure after the filter. If its OK, make
sure the spark is able to jump at least 1/2". Place an insulated screwdriver
blade up into a plug cover and get a helper to position the blade near the
engine cam-cover.

Jason




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Old 07 Jan 2007, 08:10 am   #5 (permalink)
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Coils are known issues since they are under the cap and get oil coated
and short. A spark no load does not mean a spark under load. Your cap
gasket may be bad letting in moisture, once you replaced it and it
helped since maybe the cap was loose, this must be tight. Its probably
the coil shorting but could be other components. Mine only did this
after a rain, a tight cap fixed it. Coils do go bad.

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