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Old 05 Oct 2011, 09:10 am   #1 (permalink)
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Wow, a toyota question........;0)

Just curious guys if this is an undertaking I may be able to do myself.
Or maybe offer some suggestions on what to look out for when the
*mechanic* does the work to make sure he does what he's supposed to.

I need to replace the 2 front struts on my 1996 Toyota Tercel, 2DR. Upon
inspection of my vehicle my mechanic stated that one is *blown* out &
the other looks shabby as well. He did mention the bearings may have to
be replaced but he can't tell until they pull out (I don't like
suprises) the struts? He was *spot* on with the pricing so that's really
not an issue, the bearing *plate* I assume is what's replaced & not just
bearings.

He also mentioned my right rear bearings need to be replaced. They are
drum brakes & he estimated about $100.00. Upon checking the part prices
there were 2, outer bearings & inner. I assume both logically should be
replaced, and the price I got was like $7.00 for the outer & $24.00 for
the inners. I guess the $100.00 ia about right.

I'm really not much of a mechanic but if the struts are simple than I
might consider doing myself. I mean I was a big machinery hydraulic
mechanic (sort of) when I was in the Navy.....(LMAO)....Anyway, the
strut pricing is about $65.00 each, and the bearing plate around
$50.00......If I can save myself about $120.00 in labor maybe it will be
worth it?????

Thanks guys
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Old 05 Oct 2011, 09:28 am   #2 (permalink)
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In article <j6hoft$ibo$1@dont-email.me>, ByTor@snowdog.com says...
>
> Wow, a toyota question........;0)
>
> Just curious guys if this is an undertaking I may be able to do myself.
> Or maybe offer some suggestions on what to look out for when the
> *mechanic* does the work to make sure he does what he's supposed to.
>
> I need to replace the 2 front struts on my 1996 Toyota Tercel, 2DR. Upon
> inspection of my vehicle my mechanic stated that one is *blown* out &
> the other looks shabby as well. He did mention the bearings may have to
> be replaced but he can't tell until they pull out (I don't like
> suprises) the struts? He was *spot* on with the pricing so that's really
> not an issue, the bearing *plate* I assume is what's replaced & not just
> bearings.
>
> He also mentioned my right rear bearings need to be replaced. They are
> drum brakes & he estimated about $100.00. Upon checking the part prices
> there were 2, outer bearings & inner. I assume both logically should be
> replaced, and the price I got was like $7.00 for the outer & $24.00 for
> the inners. I guess the $100.00 ia about right.
>
> I'm really not much of a mechanic but if the struts are simple than I
> might consider doing myself. I mean I was a big machinery hydraulic
> mechanic (sort of) when I was in the Navy.....(LMAO)....Anyway, the
> strut pricing is about $65.00 each, and the bearing plate around
> $50.00......If I can save myself about $120.00 in labor maybe it will be
> worth it?????
>
> Thanks guys


Oh crap. I just felt a twinge of guilt.

Would I be oppressing the *working man* by doing the labor myself &
contributing to NAPA (an evil corporation) by buying the parts there?

I mean, I don't have money to *print* at my disposal, and I don't want
to use a credit card to pay down about $500.00 for 5yrs at drastic
interest rates, and I don't think anyone owes me anything so I can pay
for mismanagement of funds.

Ugggggg, what do I do now?
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Old 05 Oct 2011, 12:13 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"ByTor" <ByTor@snowdog.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Wow, a toyota question........;0)
>
> Just curious guys if this is an undertaking I may be able to do myself.
> Or maybe offer some suggestions on what to look out for when the
> *mechanic* does the work to make sure he does what he's supposed to.
>
> I need to replace the 2 front struts on my 1996 Toyota Tercel, 2DR. Upon
> inspection of my vehicle my mechanic stated that one is *blown* out &
> the other looks shabby as well. He did mention the bearings may have to
> be replaced but he can't tell until they pull out (I don't like
> suprises) the struts? He was *spot* on with the pricing so that's really
> not an issue, the bearing *plate* I assume is what's replaced & not just
> bearings.
>
> He also mentioned my right rear bearings need to be replaced. They are
> drum brakes & he estimated about $100.00. Upon checking the part prices
> there were 2, outer bearings & inner. I assume both logically should be
> replaced, and the price I got was like $7.00 for the outer & $24.00 for
> the inners. I guess the $100.00 ia about right.
>
> I'm really not much of a mechanic but if the struts are simple than I
> might consider doing myself. I mean I was a big machinery hydraulic
> mechanic (sort of) when I was in the Navy.....(LMAO)....Anyway, the
> strut pricing is about $65.00 each, and the bearing plate around
> $50.00......If I can save myself about $120.00 in labor maybe it will be
> worth it?????
>
> Thanks guys



I can't think of any reason why you cannot replace the struts in your
driveway. It's a pretty straight forward job on most cars and trucks. I have
no specific experience with the Tercel, but the Tercel is pretty much at the
bottom of the food chain for technological advancement that would throw a
wrench into the project. Usually, struts can be replaced and not affect the
alignment. You will need to use the Loaner Tool desk of your local parts
store to get a spring compressor. Typically, the entire strut with spring
comes off, then you take the spring off of the strut and move it to the new
strut, then put the whole thing back into the car. The spring will have
rubber seats that fit into cups on the struts that the springs seat into.
The rubber you have may be rotted, and should be replaced. The rubber seats
don't cost much, if your car uses them, and you may as well get them, an
upper and lower for each side, and put them in. If you do not use the seats,
then you might end up with metal on metal contact that will become noisey,
and could be problematic for the long life of the parts.

The bearing plate referred to when talking about the struts is at the top of
the strut, where it seats inside the shock tower. As the front tires turn,
the struts have to rotate, they do so on the bearing plate.

What you need to do is look for a parts diagram for your car. I use
penskeparts.com to find parts for my BMW, but it does not list any Toyuota
models. I assume there is a Website that lists Toyota parts and shows the
relative locations. You can shop www.rockauto.com for a start, to see what
you might expect to pay for the parts you need.


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Old 05 Oct 2011, 12:16 pm   #4 (permalink)
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"ByTor" <ByTor@snowdog.com> wrote in message
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> In article <j6hoft$ibo$1@dont-email.me>, ByTor@snowdog.com says...
>>
>> Wow, a toyota question........;0)
>>
>> Just curious guys if this is an undertaking I may be able to do myself.
>> Or maybe offer some suggestions on what to look out for when the
>> *mechanic* does the work to make sure he does what he's supposed to.
>>
>> I need to replace the 2 front struts on my 1996 Toyota Tercel, 2DR. Upon
>> inspection of my vehicle my mechanic stated that one is *blown* out &
>> the other looks shabby as well. He did mention the bearings may have to
>> be replaced but he can't tell until they pull out (I don't like
>> suprises) the struts? He was *spot* on with the pricing so that's really
>> not an issue, the bearing *plate* I assume is what's replaced & not just
>> bearings.
>>
>> He also mentioned my right rear bearings need to be replaced. They are
>> drum brakes & he estimated about $100.00. Upon checking the part prices
>> there were 2, outer bearings & inner. I assume both logically should be
>> replaced, and the price I got was like $7.00 for the outer & $24.00 for
>> the inners. I guess the $100.00 ia about right.
>>
>> I'm really not much of a mechanic but if the struts are simple than I
>> might consider doing myself. I mean I was a big machinery hydraulic
>> mechanic (sort of) when I was in the Navy.....(LMAO)....Anyway, the
>> strut pricing is about $65.00 each, and the bearing plate around
>> $50.00......If I can save myself about $120.00 in labor maybe it will be
>> worth it?????
>>
>> Thanks guys

>
> Oh crap. I just felt a twinge of guilt.
>
> Would I be oppressing the *working man* by doing the labor myself &
> contributing to NAPA (an evil corporation) by buying the parts there?
>
> I mean, I don't have money to *print* at my disposal, and I don't want
> to use a credit card to pay down about $500.00 for 5yrs at drastic
> interest rates, and I don't think anyone owes me anything so I can pay
> for mismanagement of funds.
>
> Ugggggg, what do I do now?



You should not be concerned thqt you are working against Obama's effort to
preserve a job that he has no idea even exists, or not. Buy yourself a
shopping car full of parts and start wrenching...

Buy a Rib Eye to congratulate yourself on a job well done.


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Old 05 Oct 2011, 06:50 pm   #5 (permalink)
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ByTor wrote:
>
> I need to replace the 2 front struts on my 1996 Toyota Tercel, 2DR. Upon
> inspection of my vehicle my mechanic stated that one is *blown* out &
> the other looks shabby as well. He did mention the bearings may have to
> be replaced but he can't tell until they pull out (I don't like
> suprises) the struts? He was *spot* on with the pricing so that's really
> not an issue, the bearing *plate* I assume is what's replaced & not just
> bearings.
>
> He also mentioned my right rear bearings need to be replaced. They are
> drum brakes & he estimated about $100.00. Upon checking the part prices
> there were 2, outer bearings & inner. I assume both logically should be
> replaced, and the price I got was like $7.00 for the outer & $24.00 for
> the inners. I guess the $100.00 ia about right.
>
> I'm really not much of a mechanic but if the struts are simple than I
> might consider doing myself. I mean I was a big machinery hydraulic
> mechanic (sort of) when I was in the Navy.....(LMAO)....Anyway, the
> strut pricing is about $65.00 each, and the bearing plate around
> $50.00......If I can save myself about $120.00 in labor maybe it will be
> worth it?????


I think you also need new axle nuts when replacing bearings.

I found that the bearing/bushing for my 1986 Corolla varied a lot in
price, 2:1, and I ended up getting each for $27 each from BAP, a parts
chain that specializes in foreign brand cars. But another time, the
cheapest source for the fuel pump was Checker/Kragen (now
O'Reilly's). OTOH if the struts have to be replaced as well, maybe
buying the whole assembly will be cheaper because it includes the
bearing/bushing. I marked the cam bolts underneath with punch marks
and sprayed paint over the strut studs on top so I could retain the
alignment, and $74 later the garage confirmed that the alignment was
OK.

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Old 05 Oct 2011, 07:02 pm   #6 (permalink)
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In article <4e8ceb55$0$20337$c3e8da3$a8a65a91@news.astraweb.c om>,
haciroku@e86.GTS says...
>
> On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 10:10:04 -0400, ByTor wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Wow, a toyota question........;0)
> >
> > Just curious guys if this is an undertaking I may be able to do myself.
> > Or maybe offer some suggestions on what to look out for when the
> > *mechanic* does the work to make sure he does what he's supposed to.
> >
> > I need to replace the 2 front struts on my 1996 Toyota Tercel, 2DR. Upon
> > inspection of my vehicle my mechanic stated that one is *blown* out &
> > the other looks shabby as well. He did mention the bearings may have to
> > be replaced but he can't tell until they pull out (I don't like
> > suprises) the struts? He was *spot* on with the pricing so that's really
> > not an issue, the bearing *plate* I assume is what's replaced & not just
> > bearings.
> >
> > He also mentioned my right rear bearings need to be replaced. They are
> > drum brakes & he estimated about $100.00. Upon checking the part prices
> > there were 2, outer bearings & inner. I assume both logically should be
> > replaced, and the price I got was like $7.00 for the outer & $24.00 for
> > the inners. I guess the $100.00 ia about right.
> >
> > I'm really not much of a mechanic but if the struts are simple than I
> > might consider doing myself. I mean I was a big machinery hydraulic
> > mechanic (sort of) when I was in the Navy.....(LMAO)....Anyway, the
> > strut pricing is about $65.00 each, and the bearing plate around
> > $50.00......If I can save myself about $120.00 in labor maybe it will be
> > worth it?????
> >
> > Thanks guys

>
> Take a GOOD look! On most Toyotas, the brake line goes through a plate on
> the strut, with a fitting on one side and a fitting on the other. On some
> models it's pinched and can just be loosened and removed from a U shaped
> groove, without breaking the brake line and inducing air, but IIRC the
> Tercel is not one of those. So now you're looking at bleeding the brake
> system, not hard, but another job you'll have to do.
>
> The springs themselves are "capped" by the Strut Mount, and this has to be
> removed. The springs are preloaded, meaning, of course, they are already
> partially compressed. THis is a LOT of pressure! You can borrow a tool
> from AutoZone to compress the springs
>
> http://contentinfo.autozone.com/znet...25550/image/2/
>
> http://contentinfo.autozone.com/znet...27203/image/2/
>
> I think the second one actually locks onto the spring so it can't go
> flying off through your garage wall...I saw it happen, right through
> cinderblock...
>
> You have to keep the springs compressed while you remove the shock
> cartridge. You CAN buy complete sets ready to install, most of the time
> you get these
>
> http://contentinfo.autozone.com/znet...55879/image/2/
>
> or you can get "EasyStruts" for about $100 each, complete with springs and
> strut mounts for about $100 (felt like RainMan for a second there...)
>
> If you get the Easy Struts, you simply remove the old one (IIRC, no
> compression tools required) and install the new one since it's already
> preloaded.
>
> The bearings are a bit more work, since the fronts, IIRC are part of the
> hub assy and have to be pressed in/out with a shop press. And you need the
> struts off, I think, although Toyota is good about not fudging things up
> and you may be able to remove the hub and leave the strut on the car. The
> rears are easy, you remove the old ones and insert the new ones.
>
> Have I scared you sufficiently? I leave this for someone who has the
> proper equipment...
>
> Note...I can't find Easy Struts or Quick Struts for a Tercel...


Thanks hach.........Yes, you've sufficiently scared me........After
reading the responses I think I'll just leave it up to the mechanic.

I also have to get 2 new tires as well because the fronts wore out
*VERY* fast and I swapped them with the backs which were still very new
looking, and all 4 tires were changed at the same time. 2 new struts,
bearings, rear drum bearing, 2 new tires, gawd knows what else,
hopefully I won't need an alignment, this is going to cost a pretty
penny.......;0)

Thanks hach.
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Old 05 Oct 2011, 07:04 pm   #7 (permalink)
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In article <f7b58896-6a50-4ebc-a7f2-
81fc4d912b8f@j19g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, larrymoencurly@my-deja.com
says...
>
> ByTor wrote:
> >
> > I need to replace the 2 front struts on my 1996 Toyota Tercel, 2DR. Upon
> > inspection of my vehicle my mechanic stated that one is *blown* out &
> > the other looks shabby as well. He did mention the bearings may have to
> > be replaced but he can't tell until they pull out (I don't like
> > suprises) the struts? He was *spot* on with the pricing so that's really
> > not an issue, the bearing *plate* I assume is what's replaced & not just
> > bearings.
> >
> > He also mentioned my right rear bearings need to be replaced. They are
> > drum brakes & he estimated about $100.00. Upon checking the part prices
> > there were 2, outer bearings & inner. I assume both logically should be
> > replaced, and the price I got was like $7.00 for the outer & $24.00 for
> > the inners. I guess the $100.00 ia about right.
> >
> > I'm really not much of a mechanic but if the struts are simple than I
> > might consider doing myself. I mean I was a big machinery hydraulic
> > mechanic (sort of) when I was in the Navy.....(LMAO)....Anyway, the
> > strut pricing is about $65.00 each, and the bearing plate around
> > $50.00......If I can save myself about $120.00 in labor maybe it will be
> > worth it?????

>
> I think you also need new axle nuts when replacing bearings.
>
> I found that the bearing/bushing for my 1986 Corolla varied a lot in
> price, 2:1, and I ended up getting each for $27 each from BAP, a parts
> chain that specializes in foreign brand cars. But another time, the
> cheapest source for the fuel pump was Checker/Kragen (now
> O'Reilly's). OTOH if the struts have to be replaced as well, maybe
> buying the whole assembly will be cheaper because it includes the
> bearing/bushing. I marked the cam bolts underneath with punch marks
> and sprayed paint over the strut studs on top so I could retain the
> alignment, and $74 later the garage confirmed that the alignment was
> OK.


Thanks for the suggestions Larry. After reading the responses I think
I'll leave it to the pros.......;0)
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Old 05 Oct 2011, 07:05 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:42:14 -0500, hachiroku <haciroku@e86.GTS>
wrote:

>On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 10:10:04 -0400, ByTor wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Wow, a toyota question........;0)
>>
>> Just curious guys if this is an undertaking I may be able to do myself.
>> Or maybe offer some suggestions on what to look out for when the
>> *mechanic* does the work to make sure he does what he's supposed to.
>>
>> I need to replace the 2 front struts on my 1996 Toyota Tercel, 2DR. Upon
>> inspection of my vehicle my mechanic stated that one is *blown* out &
>> the other looks shabby as well. He did mention the bearings may have to
>> be replaced but he can't tell until they pull out (I don't like
>> suprises) the struts? He was *spot* on with the pricing so that's really
>> not an issue, the bearing *plate* I assume is what's replaced & not just
>> bearings.
>>
>> He also mentioned my right rear bearings need to be replaced. They are
>> drum brakes & he estimated about $100.00. Upon checking the part prices
>> there were 2, outer bearings & inner. I assume both logically should be
>> replaced, and the price I got was like $7.00 for the outer & $24.00 for
>> the inners. I guess the $100.00 ia about right.
>>
>> I'm really not much of a mechanic but if the struts are simple than I
>> might consider doing myself. I mean I was a big machinery hydraulic
>> mechanic (sort of) when I was in the Navy.....(LMAO)....Anyway, the
>> strut pricing is about $65.00 each, and the bearing plate around
>> $50.00......If I can save myself about $120.00 in labor maybe it will be
>> worth it?????
>>
>> Thanks guys

>
>Take a GOOD look! On most Toyotas, the brake line goes through a plate on
>the strut, with a fitting on one side and a fitting on the other. On some
>models it's pinched and can just be loosened and removed from a U shaped
>groove, without breaking the brake line and inducing air, but IIRC the
>Tercel is not one of those. So now you're looking at bleeding the brake
>system, not hard, but another job you'll have to do.
>
>The springs themselves are "capped" by the Strut Mount, and this has to be
>removed. The springs are preloaded, meaning, of course, they are already
>partially compressed. THis is a LOT of pressure! You can borrow a tool
>from AutoZone to compress the springs


Better: Take the current and new strut to a repair shop and pay them
10 bucks or so to change out the units on the springs.

Those crappy rentals from places like AutoZone can KILL YOU.

>...or you can get "EasyStruts" for about $100 each, complete with springs and
>strut mounts for about $100 (felt like RainMan for a second there...)


Haven't tried these, you?

>
>The bearings are a bit more work, since the fronts, IIRC are part of the
>hub assy and have to be pressed in/out with a shop press.


They are.

>And you need the struts off,


You can 'fold' the strut up out of they way, it's the tranny axel
that's the pain. You really gotta fiddle with it to get it out from
behind the hub.

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Old 05 Oct 2011, 07:09 pm   #9 (permalink)
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In article <j6i38o$3mo$1@dont-email.me>, crwlrjeff@yahoo.com says...
>
> "ByTor" <ByTor@snowdog.com> wrote in message
> news:j6hoft$ibo$1@dont-email.me...
> >
> >
> > Wow, a toyota question........;0)
> >
> > Just curious guys if this is an undertaking I may be able to do myself.
> > Or maybe offer some suggestions on what to look out for when the
> > *mechanic* does the work to make sure he does what he's supposed to.
> >
> > I need to replace the 2 front struts on my 1996 Toyota Tercel, 2DR. Upon
> > inspection of my vehicle my mechanic stated that one is *blown* out &
> > the other looks shabby as well. He did mention the bearings may have to
> > be replaced but he can't tell until they pull out (I don't like
> > suprises) the struts? He was *spot* on with the pricing so that's really
> > not an issue, the bearing *plate* I assume is what's replaced & not just
> > bearings.
> >
> > He also mentioned my right rear bearings need to be replaced. They are
> > drum brakes & he estimated about $100.00. Upon checking the part prices
> > there were 2, outer bearings & inner. I assume both logically should be
> > replaced, and the price I got was like $7.00 for the outer & $24.00 for
> > the inners. I guess the $100.00 ia about right.
> >
> > I'm really not much of a mechanic but if the struts are simple than I
> > might consider doing myself. I mean I was a big machinery hydraulic
> > mechanic (sort of) when I was in the Navy.....(LMAO)....Anyway, the
> > strut pricing is about $65.00 each, and the bearing plate around
> > $50.00......If I can save myself about $120.00 in labor maybe it will be
> > worth it?????
> >
> > Thanks guys

>
>
> I can't think of any reason why you cannot replace the struts in your
> driveway. It's a pretty straight forward job on most cars and trucks. I have
> no specific experience with the Tercel, but the Tercel is pretty much at the
> bottom of the food chain for technological advancement that would throw a
> wrench into the project. Usually, struts can be replaced and not affect the
> alignment. You will need to use the Loaner Tool desk of your local parts
> store to get a spring compressor. Typically, the entire strut with spring
> comes off, then you take the spring off of the strut and move it to the new
> strut, then put the whole thing back into the car. The spring will have
> rubber seats that fit into cups on the struts that the springs seat into.
> The rubber you have may be rotted, and should be replaced. The rubber seats
> don't cost much, if your car uses them, and you may as well get them, an
> upper and lower for each side, and put them in. If you do not use the seats,
> then you might end up with metal on metal contact that will become noisey,
> and could be problematic for the long life of the parts.
>
> The bearing plate referred to when talking about the struts is at the top of
> the strut, where it seats inside the shock tower. As the front tires turn,
> the struts have to rotate, they do so on the bearing plate.
>
> What you need to do is look for a parts diagram for your car. I use
> penskeparts.com to find parts for my BMW, but it does not list any Toyuota
> models. I assume there is a Website that lists Toyota parts and shows the
> relative locations. You can shop www.rockauto.com for a start, to see what
> you might expect to pay for the parts you need.


Thanks for taking the time to explain Jeff, it's very helpful. After
reading hach's scary description & your suggestion I'm not that
confident in my skills.........;0)

And yes, it appears I do have those rubber seats which are all blown out
& rotted, I seen them myself up on the lift. I don't remember when I
viewed the strut at NAPA on his computer or asked if the rubber came
with them, I'll find out tomorrow. I'm pinching pennies and don't want
suprises.......;0)

Thanks again Jeff.
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In article <j6i3df$4lk$1@dont-email.me>, crwlrjeff@yahoo.com says...
>
> "ByTor" <ByTor@snowdog.com> wrote in message
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> > In article <j6hoft$ibo$1@dont-email.me>, ByTor@snowdog.com says...
> >>
> >> Wow, a toyota question........;0)
> >>
> >> Just curious guys if this is an undertaking I may be able to do myself.
> >> Or maybe offer some suggestions on what to look out for when the
> >> *mechanic* does the work to make sure he does what he's supposed to.
> >>
> >> I need to replace the 2 front struts on my 1996 Toyota Tercel, 2DR. Upon
> >> inspection of my vehicle my mechanic stated that one is *blown* out &
> >> the other looks shabby as well. He did mention the bearings may have to
> >> be replaced but he can't tell until they pull out (I don't like
> >> suprises) the struts? He was *spot* on with the pricing so that's really
> >> not an issue, the bearing *plate* I assume is what's replaced & not just
> >> bearings.
> >>
> >> He also mentioned my right rear bearings need to be replaced. They are
> >> drum brakes & he estimated about $100.00. Upon checking the part prices
> >> there were 2, outer bearings & inner. I assume both logically should be
> >> replaced, and the price I got was like $7.00 for the outer & $24.00 for
> >> the inners. I guess the $100.00 ia about right.
> >>
> >> I'm really not much of a mechanic but if the struts are simple than I
> >> might consider doing myself. I mean I was a big machinery hydraulic
> >> mechanic (sort of) when I was in the Navy.....(LMAO)....Anyway, the
> >> strut pricing is about $65.00 each, and the bearing plate around
> >> $50.00......If I can save myself about $120.00 in labor maybe it will be
> >> worth it?????
> >>
> >> Thanks guys

> >
> > Oh crap. I just felt a twinge of guilt.
> >
> > Would I be oppressing the *working man* by doing the labor myself &
> > contributing to NAPA (an evil corporation) by buying the parts there?
> >
> > I mean, I don't have money to *print* at my disposal, and I don't want
> > to use a credit card to pay down about $500.00 for 5yrs at drastic
> > interest rates, and I don't think anyone owes me anything so I can pay
> > for mismanagement of funds.
> >
> > Ugggggg, what do I do now?

>
>
> You should not be concerned thqt you are working against Obama's effort to
> preserve a job that he has no idea even exists, or not. Buy yourself a
> shopping car full of parts and start wrenching...
>
> Buy a Rib Eye to congratulate yourself on a job well done.


He, He........I had to just add a little political humor to all this,
wouldn't have seemed like a *complete* post.........;0)
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