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Old 12 May 2012, 10:08 am   #1 (permalink)
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I think this is the last time my dealer will rotate my winter summer
tires -- they charged my $30 -- an increase of $10 over last year!

I drive a 2007 Corolla CE. Is it safe to use the scissor jack that came
with the car to rotate the wheels for the long term, or will it wear out
or fail prematurely? Do I really need a jack stand, and if so, where is
the exact placement for the stand under the car ( a photo link would be
helpful ). The scissor jack has dedicated grooves under the side of the
car, but I am unsure of exactly where to place a car stand after lifting
the car.

Finally, is there a dedicated torque wrench available to ensure the nuts
are re-tightened correctly?

I do not have a garage, and storage is limited. I want the least
equipment to do the job safely in my driveway and as efficiently
(cheaply) as possible.

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Old 12 May 2012, 12:51 pm   #2 (permalink)
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"homepc" <wiebe008@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jolqta$m0e$1@dont-email.me...
>I think this is the last time my dealer will rotate my winter summer
>tires -- they charged my $30 -- an increase of $10 over last year!
>
> I drive a 2007 Corolla CE. Is it safe to use the scissor jack that came
> with the car to rotate the wheels for the long term, or will it wear out
> or fail prematurely? Do I really need a jack stand, and if so, where is
> the exact placement for the stand under the car ( a photo link would be
> helpful ). The scissor jack has dedicated grooves under the side of the
> car, but I am unsure of exactly where to place a car stand after lifting
> the car.
>
> Finally, is there a dedicated torque wrench available to ensure the nuts
> are re-tightened correctly?
>
> I do not have a garage, and storage is limited. I want the least
> equipment to do the job safely in my driveway and as efficiently (cheaply)
> as possible.
>


It's safe to use the jack that came with the car. Well, it's not all that
safe, but wear and tear on the jack isn't the issue. The issue is that the
car can move, and fall off of the jack.

Loosen the lugnuts on the tire of your desire. Just make them so they are
not at full torque, do not make them so loose that you can spin them off by
hand.

Raise the car.

Remove the lugnuts that you pre-loosened.

Change the tire. spin the lugnuts tight by hand. Set them as tight as you
can BY HAND. (the goal is to make the wheel fit the hub flatly and fully,
and not knock the car off of the jack.)

Lower the car.

Use your torque wrench to set the lugnuts to the correct torque. You gotta
look this up, but 75 ~ 80 pounds is the general ballpark of this sort of
thing.

Move to the next wheel and repeat.

When you are changing a tire on the side of the road, you should follow the
same process -- loosen the nuts, raise the car, remove the nuts, change the
tire, install the nuts by hand, lower the car, tighten the nuts to spec.

You can, and some will say you should, leave the weight of the car on the
jack, but lower the car until the tire touches the ground, when you torque
the nuts. If the tire is not fully against the hub, but the car is still on
the jack, then the torque process will pull the tire in. If the weight of
the car is on the tire AND the tire is not against the hub, you can reach
the torque setting of the wrench but the nut can still not be tight.

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Old 12 May 2012, 01:30 pm   #3 (permalink)
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In article <jom4bf$duj$1@dont-email.me>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Remove the lugnuts that you pre-loosened.


Or, he could just remove the lugnuts that he loosened.
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Old 12 May 2012, 01:31 pm   #4 (permalink)
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In article <jom4bf$duj$1@dont-email.me>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > I drive a 2007 Corolla CE. Is it safe to use the scissor jack that came
> > with the car to rotate the wheels for the long term, or will it wear out
> > or fail prematurely? Do I really need a jack stand, and if so, where is
> > the exact placement for the stand under the car ( a photo link would be
> > helpful ). The scissor jack has dedicated grooves under the side of the
> > car, but I am unsure of exactly where to place a car stand after lifting
> > the car.
> >
> > Finally, is there a dedicated torque wrench available to ensure the nuts
> > are re-tightened correctly?
> >
> > I do not have a garage, and storage is limited. I want the least
> > equipment to do the job safely in my driveway and as efficiently (cheaply)
> > as possible.
> >

>
> It's safe to use the jack that came with the car. Well, it's not all that
> safe, but wear and tear on the jack isn't the issue. The issue is that the
> car can move, and fall off of the jack.


he's trying to rotate the tires, not change a tire on the side of the
road.

I see no good way to use the scissor jack that came with the tire as a
tool to rotate the tires, unless he has five wheel/tire sets that he's
rotating around and can raise one corner at a time.

Scissor jacks are not meant to do anything *but* raise one corner at a
time.
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Old 12 May 2012, 01:47 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On 12/05/2012 11:51 AM, Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "homepc" <wiebe008@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jolqta$m0e$1@dont-email.me...
>> I think this is the last time my dealer will rotate my winter summer
>> tires -- they charged my $30 -- an increase of $10 over last year!
>>
>> I drive a 2007 Corolla CE. Is it safe to use the scissor jack that
>> came with the car to rotate the wheels for the long term, or will it
>> wear out or fail prematurely? Do I really need a jack stand, and if
>> so, where is the exact placement for the stand under the car ( a photo
>> link would be helpful ). The scissor jack has dedicated grooves under
>> the side of the car, but I am unsure of exactly where to place a car
>> stand after lifting the car.
>>
>> Finally, is there a dedicated torque wrench available to ensure the
>> nuts are re-tightened correctly?
>>
>> I do not have a garage, and storage is limited. I want the least
>> equipment to do the job safely in my driveway and as efficiently
>> (cheaply) as possible.
>>

>
> It's safe to use the jack that came with the car. Well, it's not all
> that safe, but wear and tear on the jack isn't the issue. The issue is
> that the car can move, and fall off of the jack.
>
> Loosen the lugnuts on the tire of your desire. Just make them so they
> are not at full torque, do not make them so loose that you can spin them
> off by hand.
>
> Raise the car.
>
> Remove the lugnuts that you pre-loosened.
>
> Change the tire. spin the lugnuts tight by hand. Set them as tight as
> you can BY HAND. (the goal is to make the wheel fit the hub flatly and
> fully, and not knock the car off of the jack.)
>
> Lower the car.
>
> Use your torque wrench to set the lugnuts to the correct torque. You
> gotta look this up, but 75 ~ 80 pounds is the general ballpark of this
> sort of thing.
>
> Move to the next wheel and repeat.
>
> When you are changing a tire on the side of the road, you should follow
> the same process -- loosen the nuts, raise the car, remove the nuts,
> change the tire, install the nuts by hand, lower the car, tighten the
> nuts to spec.
>
> You can, and some will say you should, leave the weight of the car on
> the jack, but lower the car until the tire touches the ground, when you
> torque the nuts. If the tire is not fully against the hub, but the car
> is still on the jack, then the torque process will pull the tire in. If
> the weight of the car is on the tire AND the tire is not against the
> hub, you can reach the torque setting of the wrench but the nut can
> still not be tight.



For ensure the lug nuts are tightened correctly, is this an OK torque
wrench to use for my purposes? I have read the correct torque is 76 lbs.

http://www.babcotools.ca/s.nl/it.A/id.39827/.f

KDT2957 1/2" Drive Torque Beam Wrench


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Old 12 May 2012, 01:57 pm   #6 (permalink)
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On 12/05/2012 12:31 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> he's trying to rotate the tires, not change a tire on the side of the
> road.
>
> I see no good way to use the scissor jack that came with the tire as a
> tool to rotate the tires, unless he has five wheel/tire sets that he's
> rotating around and can raise one corner at a time.
>
> Scissor jacks are not meant to do anything *but* raise one corner at a
> time.


I am asking about doing a winter/summer tire change over. One wheel at
a time will be fine. I have two sets of tires on rims.

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Old 12 May 2012, 04:39 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On May 12, 7:08*am, homepc <wiebe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this is the last time my dealer will rotate my winter summer
> tires -- they charged my $30 -- an increase of $10 over last year!
>
> I drive a 2007 Corolla CE. *Is it safe to use the scissor jack that came
> with the car to rotate the wheels for the long term, or will it wear out
> or fail prematurely? *Do I really need a jack stand, and if so, where is
> the exact placement for the stand under the car ( a photo link would be
> helpful ). *The scissor jack has dedicated grooves under the side of the
> car, but I am unsure of exactly where to place a car stand after lifting
> the car.
>
> Finally, is there a dedicated torque wrench available to ensure the nuts
> are re-tightened correctly?
>
> I do not have a garage, and storage is limited. *I want the least
> equipment to do the job safely in my driveway and as efficiently
> (cheaply) as possible.



Personally I just use a cheap hydraulic jack that I bought from Wal-
Mart. Oh, and I place some jack stands underneath the car, just in
case the jack fails.

While you're rotating the tires, that's a great time to also inspect
brake pad wear, the CV boots and the brake lines. You also want to
look for weird wear patterns on the tire; unusual/uneven wear will
mean you need an alignment.

Michael
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Old 12 May 2012, 09:52 pm   #8 (permalink)
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On 5/12/2012 10:08 AM, homepc wrote:
> I think this is the last time my dealer will rotate my winter summer
> tires -- they charged my $30 -- an increase of $10 over last year!
>
> I drive a 2007 Corolla CE. Is it safe to use the scissor jack that came
> with the car to rotate the wheels for the long term, or will it wear out
> or fail prematurely? Do I really need a jack stand, and if so, where is
> the exact placement for the stand under the car ( a photo link would be
> helpful ). The scissor jack has dedicated grooves under the side of the
> car, but I am unsure of exactly where to place a car stand after lifting
> the car.
>
> Finally, is there a dedicated torque wrench available to ensure the nuts
> are re-tightened correctly?
>
> I do not have a garage, and storage is limited. I want the least
> equipment to do the job safely in my driveway and as efficiently
> (cheaply) as possible.
>



Go **** yourself asshole shit

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Old 12 May 2012, 10:21 pm   #9 (permalink)
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A quick google search shows this little mouth-breather posts just this
kind of response on several groups.

Ignore the troll, as I should have.


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Old 12 May 2012, 10:32 pm   #10 (permalink)
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In article <jon44u$2jeg$1@adenine.netfront.net>,
That Randy Guy <hey@yall.com> wrote:

> Go **** yourself asshole shit


He has to wait in line behind you and your mom.
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