How exact should the trans fluid level be?

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Old 23 Jun 2012, 02:51 pm   #1 (permalink)
Michael
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Default How exact should the trans fluid level be?

'99 Camry, 4-cyl, changed trans fluid. About 2 3/4 quarts came out,
but I only had about 2 1/4 quarts of new stuff. Drove about a mile
around the neighborhood, came back, and the level was somewhere in the
middle of the COLD region. Is that ok? Should I stress about going
to the store, buying more Dex 3, and add another 1/2 quart?
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Old 23 Jun 2012, 03:02 pm   #2 (permalink)
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:51:19 -0700, Michael wrote:

> '99 Camry, 4-cyl, changed trans fluid. About 2 3/4 quarts came out,
> but I only had about 2 1/4 quarts of new stuff. Drove about a mile
> around the neighborhood, came back, and the level was somewhere in the
> middle of the COLD region. Is that ok? Should I stress about going
> to the store, buying more Dex 3, and add another 1/2 quart?



Yup. If you drove it and then it was only in the COLD region it's too low.

You did check it in neutral with the engine running, right?
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Old 23 Jun 2012, 04:57 pm   #3 (permalink)
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On Jun 23, 12:02*pm, hachiroku <hacir...@e86.GTS> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:51:19 -0700, Michael wrote:
> > '99 Camry, 4-cyl, changed trans fluid. *About 2 3/4 quarts came out,
> > but I only had about 2 1/4 quarts of new stuff. *Drove about a mile
> > around the neighborhood, came back, and the level was somewhere in the
> > middle of the COLD region. *Is that ok? *Should I stress about going
> > to the store, buying more Dex 3, and add another 1/2 quart?

>
> Yup. If you drove it and then it was only in the COLD region it's too low..
>
> You did check it in neutral with the engine running, right?



Engine was running but in Park. It has to be in Neutral?

Come to think of it, it was 1/2 quart less than the *previous* level.
It's possible the previous level may have been too high; there is this
slow mystery oil leak in my garage that I thought was from a loose
valve cover, but it's still dripping after I tightened those valve
cover nuts. Looked under the car and the leak seems centered around
the trans... hmm... I have to observe this. Still going to the store
later on though...
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Old 23 Jun 2012, 04:58 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:51:19 -0700 (PDT), Michael
<mrdarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

>'99 Camry, 4-cyl, changed trans fluid. About 2 3/4 quarts came out,
>but I only had about 2 1/4 quarts of new stuff. Drove about a mile
>around the neighborhood, came back, and the level was somewhere in the
>middle of the COLD region. Is that ok? Should I stress about going
>to the store, buying more Dex 3, and add another 1/2 quart?


I wouldn't stress about it, but I'd stop at the store and get some
fluid at the start of my next trip. If that will be after the stores
have closed, I'd make a special trip. I always carry a quart of oil
and a quart of xmission fluid in my trunk, ever since 1967 when my oil
gauge was dipping to zero occaionsally in the middle of the night in
the middle of Canada, between Detroit and London, Ontario, when I had
to choose between stopping and waiting until there was traffic in the
morning or plugging on 50 or 100 miles to a gas station. I, and my
two passengers, did stop for a few minutes. Not an electric light in
sight, the sky was the clearest I've ever seen, with thousands of
stars. I didn't want to wait four hours so I drove on and I think the
engine was fine. Had the '50 Olds with V-8 300cid for 2 more years.

They sell motor oil and transmission fluid at most supermarkets, btw,
and maybe drugstores too, though I haven't checked any drugstores. I
don't think they have xmission fluid for Chryslers, but they do have
Dexron.

If the car shifts into gear and stays there, the major (only?) reason
for needing more fluid to the proper level is aiui to keep the
transmission at the proper temperature, cool enough. Driving a mile
isn't going to overheat the transmission, but I'd put in the right
amount befroe I went anywhere else.

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Old 24 Jun 2012, 05:22 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Michael wrote:
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> '99 Camry, 4-cyl, changed trans fluid. About 2 3/4 quarts came out,
> but I only had about 2 1/4 quarts of new stuff. Drove about a mile
> around the neighborhood, came back, and the level was somewhere in the
> middle of the COLD region. Is that ok? Should I stress about going
> to the store, buying more Dex 3, and add another 1/2 quart?


I had a Chrysler Torqueflite transmission that would slip if it was
even a pint below minimum. I learned this because the thing had a
faulty dipstick.

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Old 24 Jun 2012, 06:38 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Likely wasn't the only thing faulty.


"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> Michael wrote:
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>> '99 Camry, 4-cyl, changed trans fluid. About 2 3/4 quarts came out,
>> but I only had about 2 1/4 quarts of new stuff. Drove about a mile
>> around the neighborhood, came back, and the level was somewhere in the
>> middle of the COLD region. Is that ok? Should I stress about going
>> to the store, buying more Dex 3, and add another 1/2 quart?

>
> I had a Chrysler Torqueflite transmission that would slip if it was
> even a pint below minimum. I learned this because the thing had a
> faulty dipstick



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Old 24 Jun 2012, 11:38 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On Jun 23, 1:58*pm, micky <NONONOmis...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:51:19 -0700 (PDT), Michael
>
> <mrdarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >'99 Camry, 4-cyl, changed trans fluid. *About 2 3/4 quarts came out,
> >but I only had about 2 1/4 quarts of new stuff. *Drove about a mile
> >around the neighborhood, came back, and the level was somewhere in the
> >middle of the COLD region. *Is that ok? *Should I stress about going
> >to the store, buying more Dex 3, and add another 1/2 quart?

>
> I wouldn't stress about it, but I'd stop at the store and get some
> fluid at the start of my next trip. *If that will be after the stores
> have closed, I'd make a special trip. * I always carry a quart of oil
> and a quart of xmission fluid in my trunk, ever since 1967 when my oil
> gauge was dipping to zero occaionsally in the middle of the night in
> the middle of Canada, between Detroit and London, Ontario, when I had
> to choose between stopping and waiting until there was traffic in the
> morning or plugging on 50 or 100 miles to a gas station. * I, and my
> two passengers, did stop for a few minutes. *Not an electric light in
> sight, the sky was the clearest I've ever seen, with thousands of
> stars. I didn't want to wait four hours so I drove on and I think the
> engine was fine. *Had the '50 Olds with V-8 300cid for 2 more years.
>
> They sell motor oil and transmission fluid at most supermarkets, btw,
> and maybe drugstores too, though I haven't checked any drugstores. * I
> don't think they have xmission fluid for Chryslers, but they do have
> Dexron.
>
> If the car shifts into gear and stays there, the major (only?) reason
> for needing more fluid to the proper level is aiui to keep the
> transmission at the proper temperature, cool enough. *Driving a mile
> isn't going to overheat the transmission, but I'd put in the right
> amount befroe I went anywhere else.



Ok, thanks for the comments everyone. I got some more, and put in
about 1/2 of a pint, then I think the dipstick said that was a little
bit too much... go figure. But the car operates fine.

Today I changed the diff oil, thinking that was the cause of my
mystery oil leak. That wasn't it... I think it's the trans pan
gasket. That's gonna be especially fun, since the previous owner/
mechanic used some form-in-place gasket material over there...

Michael
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Old 25 Jun 2012, 12:12 am   #8 (permalink)
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Michael
<mrdarrett@gmail.com> wrote:

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>Today I changed the diff oil, thinking that was the cause of my
>mystery oil leak. That wasn't it... I think it's the trans pan
>gasket. That's gonna be especially fun, since the previous owner/
>mechanic used some form-in-place gasket material over there...
>
>Michael


I meant to say that transmission fluid is colored, red or something,
and engine oil is just black. Also xmission fluid isn't as slick as
engine oil.
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Old 25 Jun 2012, 01:11 am   #9 (permalink)
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On Jun 24, 9:12*pm, micky <NONONOmis...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:38:32 -0700 (PDT), Michael
>
> <mrdarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Today I changed the diff oil, thinking that was the cause of my
> >mystery oil leak. *That wasn't it... I think it's the trans pan
> >gasket. *That's gonna be especially fun, since the previous owner/
> >mechanic used some form-in-place gasket material over there...

>
> >Michael

>
> I meant to say that transmission fluid is colored, red or something,
> and engine oil is just black. * *Also xmission fluid isn't as slick as
> engine oil.



Yeah it's red when new, but I couldn't quite place this liquid. It
doesn't really have any smell to it. Engine oil has this nice-ish
smell, trans oil has this nasty-ish smell, well at least new trans oil
does...

When I went down there, yeah, the trans gasket looks like it's seeping
the stuff, but when I looked up, I saw more oil, so maybe I have two
leaks? Sigh... such is life. Ah, well I shouldn't complain. At
least I have a car. Some folks aren't so fortunate.
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Old 25 Jun 2012, 09:37 am   #10 (permalink)
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"Michael" <mrdarrett@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> '99 Camry, 4-cyl, changed trans fluid. About 2 3/4 quarts came out,
> but I only had about 2 1/4 quarts of new stuff. Drove about a mile
> around the neighborhood, came back, and the level was somewhere in the
> middle of the COLD region. Is that ok? Should I stress about going
> to the store, buying more Dex 3, and add another 1/2 quart?



Anything measured with a dipstick is not an exact science. The level of the
fluid being measured only needs to be more than minimum and less than
maximum. It the case of motor oil, the stick measures the difference by 1
full quart (or liter, depending on the market). When the stick shows the
level at or below the minimum, then a single full quart/liter should be
added and then check again. If the level is anywhere between the two marks,
then stop adding.

I forget the measurement of the transmission dipstick, but it should be
given someplace. When I was a kid, it was also measuring full quarts for all
cars but Ford. Fords took a different type of fluid that was sold in
half-quarts, and the dipstick measured for the package that the fluid came
in.





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