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Old 20 Feb 2013, 09:11 pm   #1 (permalink)
F Murtz
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This is a tail light on a 2002 avalon in Australia.why are all the
pictures of 2002 avalon tail lights in America different?


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Old 22 Feb 2013, 10:34 am   #2 (permalink)
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F Murtz wrote:

>This is a tail light on a 2002 avalon in Australia.why are all the
>pictures of 2002 avalon tail lights in America different?
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>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/1130203...eat=directlink


Can't specifically answer your question but I have seen European
versions of the same cars imported to America have different lights,
front and back. I suspect it has something to do with regulations in
each country regarding safety.
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Old 22 Feb 2013, 12:14 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>F Murtz wrote:
>
>>This is a tail light on a 2002 avalon in Australia.why are all the
>>pictures of 2002 avalon tail lights in America different?
>>
>>
>>https://picasaweb.google.com/1130203...eat=directlink

>
> Can't specifically answer your question but I have seen European
> versions of the same cars imported to America have different lights,
> front and back. I suspect it has something to do with regulations in
> each country regarding safety.


BINGO.

Johnny, show the contestant the prize that awaits him. You win a 4 night, 3
day cruise of Boston Harbor, a case of brocolli, and 50 gallons of non-fat
milk.

This is exactly right. The shape, location, and color of lights are dictated
by the markets that the car is designated for in the First Sale. A car bound
for North America has different lights than the same car bound for
Australia.


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Old 22 Feb 2013, 10:38 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On 2/20/2013 6:11 PM, F Murtz wrote:
> This is a tail light on a 2002 avalon in Australia.why are all the
> pictures of 2002 avalon tail lights in America different?
>
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/1130203...eat=directlink


I tend to notice the differences in U.S. and foreign Toyotas, and lights
are part of the obvious difference. Often the differences are due to
practical or legal requirements. I.e. in Taiwan I noticed that all the
Toyotas have folding outside mirrors (either manual or power), while in
the U.S. Toyota uses less expensive non-folding mirrors. The reason is
the very tight parking spaces in Taiwan (and I suspect in other countries).

Bumpers are another area of difference. You can blame Reagan for the
crappy 2.5 MPH bumpers we have in the U.S. since his administration
relaxed the bumper standards from 5MPH.

Unfortunately, a better bumper standard would be tough to push through
now, it's hard to go back. The auto manufacturers like the cheaper
bumpers not only because of the cost savings, but because the lighter
bumpers reduce the total vehicle weight, increasing mileage slightly,
and they make more money selling replacement parts. Maybe in Obama's
third term he'll have time to work on this sort of thing (provided we
can get the 22nd amendment repealed in time).


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Old 23 Feb 2013, 02:34 am   #5 (permalink)
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"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> On 2/20/2013 6:11 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>> This is a tail light on a 2002 avalon in Australia.why are all
>> the
>> pictures of 2002 avalon tail lights in America different?
>>
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/1130203...eat=directlink

>
> I tend to notice the differences in U.S. and foreign Toyotas, and
> lights are part of the obvious difference. Often the differences
> are due to practical or legal requirements. I.e. in Taiwan I
> noticed that all the Toyotas have folding outside mirrors (either
> manual or power), while in the U.S. Toyota uses less expensive
> non-folding mirrors. The reason is the very tight parking spaces
> in Taiwan (and I suspect in other countries).
>
> Bumpers are another area of difference. You can blame Reagan for
> the crappy 2.5 MPH bumpers we have in the U.S. since his
> administration relaxed the bumper standards from 5MPH.
>
> Unfortunately, a better bumper standard would be tough to push
> through now, it's hard to go back. The auto manufacturers like
> the cheaper bumpers not only because of the cost savings, but
> because the lighter bumpers reduce the total vehicle weight,
> increasing mileage slightly, and they make more money selling
> replacement parts. Maybe in Obama's third term he'll have time to
> work on this sort of thing (provided we can get the 22nd
> amendment repealed in time).
>


Back in the days of heavy, chrome bumpers, a 5 mph bumper to bumper
collision was nothing. No damage. People use to push cars with
other cars without worry of damage. Of course, now with automatic
transmissions being differently built, push starts no longer work,
for most vehicles.






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Old 23 Feb 2013, 04:11 am   #6 (permalink)
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In article <kg9rbg$okc$1@dont-email.me>,
"Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:512839c6$0$80145$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> > On 2/20/2013 6:11 PM, F Murtz wrote:
> >> This is a tail light on a 2002 avalon in Australia.why are all
> >> the
> >> pictures of 2002 avalon tail lights in America different?
> >>
> >>
> >> https://picasaweb.google.com/1130203...201302?authuse
> >> r=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCIeakdCk0dWQhgE&feat=directlink

> >
> > I tend to notice the differences in U.S. and foreign Toyotas, and
> > lights are part of the obvious difference. Often the differences
> > are due to practical or legal requirements. I.e. in Taiwan I
> > noticed that all the Toyotas have folding outside mirrors (either
> > manual or power), while in the U.S. Toyota uses less expensive
> > non-folding mirrors. The reason is the very tight parking spaces
> > in Taiwan (and I suspect in other countries).
> >
> > Bumpers are another area of difference. You can blame Reagan for
> > the crappy 2.5 MPH bumpers we have in the U.S. since his
> > administration relaxed the bumper standards from 5MPH.
> >
> > Unfortunately, a better bumper standard would be tough to push
> > through now, it's hard to go back. The auto manufacturers like
> > the cheaper bumpers not only because of the cost savings, but
> > because the lighter bumpers reduce the total vehicle weight,
> > increasing mileage slightly, and they make more money selling
> > replacement parts. Maybe in Obama's third term he'll have time to
> > work on this sort of thing (provided we can get the 22nd
> > amendment repealed in time).
> >

>
> Back in the days of heavy, chrome bumpers, a 5 mph bumper to bumper
> collision was nothing. No damage. People use to push cars with
> other cars without worry of damage. Of course, now with automatic
> transmissions being differently built, push starts no longer work,
> for most vehicles.


A couple of 4X8's covered with old tires works pretty well too. Perhaps
obama if he has time will allow us to build our own cars and even drive
them if he feels good natured.
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Old 23 Feb 2013, 12:30 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On 23/02/2013 1:34 AM, Sharx35 wrote:
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> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:512839c6$0$80145$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> On 2/20/2013 6:11 PM, F Murtz wrote:


>>
>> Bumpers are another area of difference. You can blame Reagan for the
>> crappy 2.5 MPH bumpers we have in the U.S. since his administration
>> relaxed the bumper standards from 5MPH.
>>
>> Unfortunately, a better bumper standard would be tough to push through
>> now, it's hard to go back. The auto manufacturers like the cheaper
>> bumpers not only because of the cost savings, but because the lighter
>> bumpers reduce the total vehicle weight, increasing mileage slightly,
>> and they make more money selling replacement parts. Maybe in Obama's
>> third term he'll have time to work on this sort of thing (provided we
>> can get the 22nd amendment repealed in time).
>>

>
> Back in the days of heavy, chrome bumpers, a 5 mph bumper to bumper
> collision was nothing. No damage. People use to push cars with other
> cars without worry of damage. Of course, now with automatic
> transmissions being differently built, push starts no longer work, for
> most vehicles.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Its too bad auto makers can't design bumpers made of engineered egg
crate recycled rubber that would withstand a 5 mph impact, or more
importantly, just a slight nudge when parking so drivers won't need to
pay through the nose to repair paint scuffs and cracks on these ill
conceived plastic bumper facades.

Instead of designing real world bumpers and rear backup mirrors on vans
and SUVs, auto manufacturers are offering consumers backup radar sensors
and cameras to avoid damage to their ridiculously fragile bumpers.
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