Re: How to disable 2002 Sienna daytime running lights?

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Old 12 Mar 2013, 01:14 pm   #1 (permalink)
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:19:09 -0500, Gary L. Burnore
<gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:11:52 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 11/13/2011 07:32 PM, NWW wrote:
>>> Is there a way to disable the lights other than cutting the wire as
>>> indicated in the Toyota forums? Kinda figured there might be a special
>>> / oddball combo of switches etc that would do it.

>>
>>No, you need to cut the wire. The dealer will do it for you if you
>>explain the reason.
>>
>>Thankfully, newer Toyotas don't have this problem. It should be illegal
>>to not have a way to turn off DRLs.

>
>It should be illegal to disable something on your car meant for the
>safety of others.


You have a point. It is illegal aiui to disable something the US
govt. requires on all cars of a given year, but not those which
carmakers are not required to use. Running lights are not required
by the US (or any other national or state?) govt. Of course t he law
could change.

The law in the US prohitbits firmly mounted hood ornaments, but do
they sell them after market? I sort of think they do but I'm not
sure. That must be illegal and I don't know why the sale isn't
stopped, and if anyone is injured or killed by a hood hornament, I
think the crime the owner is charged with should be bumped up one
substantial notch. That is, if it was manslaughter, it should be
murder. If it was criminally negligent homicide, it should be
manslaughter.

Speaking of cutting a wire, I cut the wire on my Solara that keeps the
top from going up or down when the car is moving more than 3 (iiirc)
mph. This saves me time when coming home and when leaving, but more
important, when it starts to rain while I'm driving, I can get a head
start on putting up the top before I either slow down



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Old 12 Mar 2013, 08:26 pm   #2 (permalink)
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"micky" <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:19:09 -0500, Gary L. Burnore
> <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:11:52 -0800, SMS
>><scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/13/2011 07:32 PM, NWW wrote:
>>>> Is there a way to disable the lights other than cutting the
>>>> wire as
>>>> indicated in the Toyota forums? Kinda figured there might be
>>>> a special
>>>> / oddball combo of switches etc that would do it.
>>>
>>>No, you need to cut the wire. The dealer will do it for you if
>>>you
>>>explain the reason.
>>>
>>>Thankfully, newer Toyotas don't have this problem. It should be
>>>illegal
>>>to not have a way to turn off DRLs.

>>
>>It should be illegal to disable something on your car meant for
>>the
>>safety of others.

>
> You have a point. It is illegal aiui to disable something the
> US
> govt. requires on all cars of a given year, but not those which
> carmakers are not required to use. Running lights are not
> required
> by the US (or any other national or state?) govt. Of course t he
> law
> could change.
>
> The law in the US prohitbits firmly mounted hood ornaments, but
> do
> they sell them after market? I sort of think they do but I'm
> not
> sure. That must be illegal and I don't know why the sale isn't
> stopped, and if anyone is injured or killed by a hood hornament,
> I
> think the crime the owner is charged with should be bumped up one
> substantial notch. That is, if it was manslaughter, it should be
> murder. If it was criminally negligent homicide, it should be
> manslaughter.
>
> Speaking of cutting a wire, I cut the wire on my Solara that
> keeps the
> top from going up or down when the car is moving more than 3
> (iiirc)
> mph. This saves me time when coming home and when leaving, but
> more
> important, when it starts to rain while I'm driving, I can get a
> head
> start on putting up the top before I either slow down



Is your time so ****ing valuable that you can't the **** pull over
and do it? NO doubt you are one of those assholes who gabs away on
a cellphone while driving, oblivious to your ****ing weaving all
over the road, too.


>
>
>


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Old 12 Mar 2013, 09:42 pm   #3 (permalink)
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On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:14:44 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:19:09 -0500, Gary L. Burnore
><gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:11:52 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 11/13/2011 07:32 PM, NWW wrote:
>>>> Is there a way to disable the lights other than cutting the wire as
>>>> indicated in the Toyota forums? Kinda figured there might be a special
>>>> / oddball combo of switches etc that would do it.
>>>
>>>No, you need to cut the wire. The dealer will do it for you if you
>>>explain the reason.
>>>
>>>Thankfully, newer Toyotas don't have this problem. It should be illegal
>>>to not have a way to turn off DRLs.

>>
>>It should be illegal to disable something on your car meant for the
>>safety of others.

>
>You have a point. It is illegal aiui to disable something the US
>govt. requires on all cars of a given year, but not those which
>carmakers are not required to use. Running lights are not required
>by the US (or any other national or state?) govt. Of course t he law
>could change.
>
>The law in the US prohitbits firmly mounted hood ornaments, but do
>they sell them after market? I sort of think they do but I'm not
>sure. That must be illegal and I don't know why the sale isn't
>stopped, and if anyone is injured or killed by a hood hornament, I
>think the crime the owner is charged with should be bumped up one
>substantial notch. That is, if it was manslaughter, it should be
>murder. If it was criminally negligent homicide, it should be
>manslaughter.
>
>Speaking of cutting a wire, I cut the wire on my Solara that keeps the
>top from going up or down when the car is moving more than 3 (iiirc)
>mph. This saves me time when coming home and when leaving, but more
>important, when it starts to rain while I'm driving, I can get a head
>start on putting up the top before I either slow down


I didn't finish this sentence, I see, or the rest of the paragraph.
......I want to get a head start putting upt the top before I either
slow down becaue of stalled traffic up ahead, or stop under an
overpass, in order to finish putting up the top. As long as one is
going over 10 or 15 mph in a light rain, or 25 in a moderate rain, or
50 in a heavy rain, it won't rain into the car, Much less than that
and it does rain in, even on the front seat. .

I've been doing this for 35 years wihtout any problems,.and afaik
Toyota is the only maker that makes it difficult.
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Old 12 Mar 2013, 10:08 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:26:05 -0600, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
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>
>
>"micky" <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>news:r1quj8dbfmjhrrl9j6083m4ct255ngcmcr@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:19:09 -0500, Gary L. Burnore
>> <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:11:52 -0800, SMS
>>><scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 11/13/2011 07:32 PM, NWW wrote:
>>>>> Is there a way to disable the lights other than cutting the
>>>>> wire as
>>>>> indicated in the Toyota forums? Kinda figured there might be
>>>>> a special
>>>>> / oddball combo of switches etc that would do it.
>>>>
>>>>No, you need to cut the wire. The dealer will do it for you if
>>>>you
>>>>explain the reason.
>>>>
>>>>Thankfully, newer Toyotas don't have this problem. It should be
>>>>illegal
>>>>to not have a way to turn off DRLs.
>>>
>>>It should be illegal to disable something on your car meant for
>>>the
>>>safety of others.

>>
>> You have a point. It is illegal aiui to disable something the
>> US
>> govt. requires on all cars of a given year, but not those which
>> carmakers are not required to use. Running lights are not
>> required
>> by the US (or any other national or state?) govt. Of course t he
>> law
>> could change.
>>
>> The law in the US prohitbits firmly mounted hood ornaments, but
>> do
>> they sell them after market? I sort of think they do but I'm
>> not
>> sure. That must be illegal and I don't know why the sale isn't
>> stopped, and if anyone is injured or killed by a hood hornament,
>> I
>> think the crime the owner is charged with should be bumped up one
>> substantial notch. That is, if it was manslaughter, it should be
>> murder. If it was criminally negligent homicide, it should be
>> manslaughter.
>>
>> Speaking of cutting a wire, I cut the wire on my Solara that
>> keeps the
>> top from going up or down when the car is moving more than 3
>> (iiirc)
>> mph. This saves me time when coming home and when leaving, but
>> more
>> important, when it starts to rain while I'm driving, I can get a
>> head
>> start on putting up the top before I either slow down

>
>
>Is your time so ****ing valuable that you can't the **** pull over
>and do it? NO doubt you are one of those assholes who gabs away on
>a cellphone while driving, oblivious to your ****ing weaving all
>over the road, too.


Despite your having "NO doubt", I don't talk on the phone while I
drive.

Other than that, I can't take serously anyone who speaks with such
vulgar words, and I don't care what your opinion is.


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Old 13 Mar 2013, 07:58 am   #5 (permalink)
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In article <khokg6$m5t$1@dont-email.me>,
"Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote:


> > Speaking of cutting a wire, I cut the wire on my Solara that
> > keeps the
> > top from going up or down when the car is moving more than 3
> > (iiirc)
> > mph. This saves me time when coming home and when leaving, but
> > more
> > important, when it starts to rain while I'm driving, I can get a
> > head
> > start on putting up the top before I either slow down

>
>
> Is your time so ****ing valuable that you can't the **** pull over
> and do it? NO doubt you are one of those assholes who gabs away on
> a cellphone while driving, oblivious to your ****ing weaving all
> over the road, too.


I had one of THEM almost hit me this week while on my daily jog. They
were yakking on the cellphone completely oblivious of me. Fortunately I
was on the correct side of the street where I am facing oncoming traffic
so I saw the dork coming and jumped for the snowbank. It happened a
couple weeks ago too and that time I called the cops. This time I
didn't have a chance. I walk/jog on the streets a lot because the
sidewalks are either covered with snow/ice or just don't exist on my
routes, so I am exposed more than the average for being struck by
drivers that aren't paying attention. It's a BIG problem.
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