2013 Camry LE, What Kind of Prices Have People Been Getting?

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Old 24 May 2013, 03:44 pm   #1 (permalink)
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My sister-in-law wants to buy a Camry LE 4 cylinder this weekend.

Between USAA and Costco pricing, the best deal so far is $20906 (this
doesn't include the $750 discount for cash or the $500 loyalty
discount). She currently owns a Toyota so if she doesn't finance she's
at $19656 (including an $80 doc fee). This also includes floor mats
which are in the vehicles from the port, if she could find one without
Toyota's floor/cargo mats it would be about $160 less. This includes no
other options (no moon roof, no power seats, etc.).

Does this seem reasonable? The last new Camry LE we purchased was
$16988, so this is almost $2700 more than we paid. Of course that was
back in 1996 and didn't include ABS or all those airbags.

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Old 24 May 2013, 07:03 pm   #2 (permalink)
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"sms" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> My sister-in-law wants to buy a Camry LE 4 cylinder this weekend.
>
> Between USAA and Costco pricing, the best deal so far is $20906
> (this doesn't include the $750 discount for cash or the $500
> loyalty discount). She currently owns a Toyota so if she doesn't
> finance she's at $19656 (including an $80 doc fee). This also
> includes floor mats


What's this bullshit "$80 documentation fee"? I say it's bullshit
and should always be challenged.


> which are in the vehicles from the port, if she could find one
> without Toyota's floor/cargo mats it would be about $160 less.
> This includes no other options (no moon roof, no power seats,
> etc.).


What's wrong with the Toyota floor mats, other than that they could
be replaced with good mats for far less?


>
> Does this seem reasonable? The last new Camry LE we purchased was
> $16988, so this is almost $2700 more than we paid. Of course that
> was back in 1996 and didn't include ABS or all those airbags.
>

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Old 25 May 2013, 02:35 pm   #3 (permalink)
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if you have to have it this weekend,
you will probably pay a little extra

the more homework you do, the better

also it can depend on the market, in your area

Southern California market, for example,
has alot of competition between dealers,
and can help on prices

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Old 26 May 2013, 08:07 am   #4 (permalink)
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On 5/25/2013 12:35 PM, marco wrote:
> if you have to have it this weekend,
> you will probably pay a little extra
>
> the more homework you do, the better
>
> also it can depend on the market, in your area
>
> Southern California market, for example,
> has alot of competition between dealers,
> and can help on prices


The last new Camry LE we bought we did go to southern California where
it was about $1500 less than northern California (a tad under 17K versus
a tad over 18.5K) and the northern versus southern price difference now
seems to be about $1000 judging from comparing the lowest advertised
prices in both regions and looking at the difference in factory to
dealer incentives ($19400 in Northern California, $18,400 in southern
California). However this car is for my sister-in-law and she's not the
type to go to southern California to save $500 (by the time you fly down
and rent a car and stay one night your savings are cut by about $500).
The loyalty rebate is $1000 in southern California but only $500 in
northern California which accounts for part of the cost difference. It's
strange that there's such a difference, but the reason you stated is the
same reason I've heard--a lot more competition in southern California.

I got her a price quote through USAA and Costco. The USAA quote was
about $700 less than the Costco quote. The USAA quote was almost exactly
the same as the newspaper ads which seem too good to be true and always
tout "x in stock at this price" and are always out of stock when you get
there, but the USAA quote was good for any model 2532 in stock. The
dealer that worked with Costco insisted that there was no way that the
USAA quote was real, that it was too far below invoice, even though I
think few buyers ever pay anything as high as invoice, let alone MSRP.

Personally I would have waited another couple of months for the 2013's
the be closing out but she's the type that when she decides to make a
purchase she doesn't put it off. Her old car was a 1992 Camry and she
wanted a new care _now_. I think this was an okay weekend to buy because
they had the $500 loyalty incentive as well as the choice of $750 or 0%
financing. They also had the $1000 college graduate discount but she
graduated about 20 years too late to qualify for it. At first I told her
she should pay cash, but then I calculated the interest she'd get on
$23,000 for five years in a CD (even at the current ridiculously low
rate of 1.75%), and realized that it was actually a much better deal to
take the 0% financing.

I guess I haven't bought a new car in a while because two of the newest
things they try to sell you in the finance department are "dent and
windshield protection" and prepaid maintenance (though now new Toyotas
come with 24 months of maintenance). Of course she declined all the
add-ons though the prepaid maintenance would not be a bad deal if you
normally went to the dealer for maintenance which I suspect some people do.

I think it's rather incredible that the street price of the base Camry
LE has gone up only about $1000 in the past 17 years considering the
additional equipment on it (10 airbags versust 8, ABS versus no ABS,
Bluetooth, folding outer mirrors, LCD screen for the radio, etc.).


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Old 26 May 2013, 10:47 am   #5 (permalink)
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On 5/26/2013 6:07 AM, sms wrote:

> I think it's rather incredible that the street price of the base Camry
> LE has gone up only about $1000 in the past 17 years considering the
> additional equipment on it (10 airbags versust 8, ABS versus no ABS,
> Bluetooth, folding outer mirrors, LCD screen for the radio, etc.).


That should have been "10 airbags versus 2."

BTW, when did Toyota start requiring 0W-20 synthetic oil in the 4
cylinder Camry?

The finance person was going on and on about how good the prepaid
maintenance deal was because synthetic oil is so expensive. Actually
synthetic oil has come way down in price
<http://www.walmart.com/ip/17034374>. It's still $2/quart more than
conventional, but that adds only about $10 to an oil change.

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Old 26 May 2013, 01:08 pm   #6 (permalink)
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sms wrote:
> Actually
> synthetic oil has come way down in price
> <http://www.walmart.com/ip/17034374>. It's still $2/quart more than
> conventional, but that adds only about $10 to an oil change.
>


Sure, if you do it yourself. If a shop has an advertised
"oil change **most cars" rate, I would expect them to add the entire
cost of the synthetic oil, especially for a newer grade like 0w-20 cuz
the shop's bulk oil is almost free my comparison.

GW
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Old 26 May 2013, 01:31 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On 5/26/2013 11:08 AM, Geoff Welsh wrote:
> sms wrote:
>> Actually
>> synthetic oil has come way down in price
>> <http://www.walmart.com/ip/17034374>. It's still $2/quart more than
>> conventional, but that adds only about $10 to an oil change.
>>

>
> Sure, if you do it yourself. If a shop has an advertised
> "oil change **most cars" rate, I would expect them to add the entire
> cost of the synthetic oil, especially for a newer grade like 0w-20 cuz
> the shop's bulk oil is almost free my comparison.


That's true. Those in my extended family that don't do our own changes
go to my brother-in-laws garage. He'll only charge them $10 more for
synthetic. He has bulk 5W30. He doesn't charge extra for bottles of
conventional 5W20 even though it costs him a lot more than the bulk.

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