why does the 2004 Totota Avalon use high test gas

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Old 07 Nov 2014, 12:06 pm   #61 (permalink)
Jeff Strickland
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> In article <e774c3fe-dcfe-4235-8191-f9d5d6e797f2@googlegroups.com>,
> nm5k@wt.net wrote:
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>> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 7:04:23 AM UTC-6, Anal P. Spunkmonkey wrote:
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>> > you'd like to think that, but your continued actions show that you
>> > really really think "higher octane number" equals "good gas" and "lower
>> > octane number" equals "bad gas".

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>> You'd like to think that, but your continued actions show that all
>> you really want to do is have deviant sex with my legs, and show the
>> world what a braying jackass you are.

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> well, you're the one that keeps calling gas with a higher octane number
> "the good gas". Why is that?



You gotta stop ragging on him for that, it is a common term even if
inaccurate.

You want to rag on him, then go after the part where he uses premium and can
feel the performance improvement at idle because the valve timing changes.
There's a loose thread in his sweater that you can pull on for weeks.

As we now know, the Avalon takes premium. It accepts regular.

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Old 08 Nov 2014, 07:12 pm   #62 (permalink)
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Default Re: why does the 2004 Totota Avalon use high test gas

In article <m3iu6i$sao$1@dont-email.me>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > well, you're the one that keeps calling gas with a higher octane number
> > "the good gas". Why is that?

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> You gotta stop ragging on him for that, it is a common term even if
> inaccurate.


but it leads his frame of mind and his argument.
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Old 25 Nov 2014, 12:22 pm   #63 (permalink)
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Jeff Strickland wrote:

>This brings me back to calculating COST PER MILE. Even though a
>gallon of premium costs more than a gallon of regular, the
>improvement in mileage can result in a lower COST PER MILE. Over the
>course of a year, an increase of 3 mpg can save $150 on 10,000 miles.
>Since they "recommend Premium for higher performance," then the car
>actually wants premium. It tolerates regular, it wants premium.



I decided to test this. I have a 2004 Toyota Avalon XLS just about to
go over 100K miles. Since I've owned it for three years I have used
nothing but Regular gas. Typically I get 20-22 MPG driving around
town. If I drive it the MPG will be higher than if my wife drives it
since she has a lead foot. Highway mileage is about 28-30 MPG, maybe
higher if I just use cruise.

The last two fillups I have used Premium 93 octane. The car has
averaged 22 MPG during that time driving around town. We have had a
cold chill here in SE VA so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and
say maybe it would have gotten 23-24 MPG. I haven't noticed any
perceptible difference in performance, but I don't typically gun it
unless I must get into traffic. Even then it already has more than
enough power without complaining.

A typical fillup is around 18 gallons. Today the Regular gas was $2.69
and the Premium was $3.19. That's a difference of $0.50. I have seen
differences of $0.40 at other places.

Paying $0.50 extra per gallon ($9.00 tankful) doesn't seem worth the
extra 2 MPG (36 tankful) to me. Maybe if I was getting a difference of
4-5 MPG I would consider switching, but I can't justify the higher cost
for such minimal gain.
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