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Old 16 Mar 2015, 08:18 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Question would be, why do they have to take the bumper off, increasing the
cost quite a bit? Had a 2007, one place scratched their heads for 45 minutes
and came to me with a handful of printouts saying they had to take it off..
Said goodbye, he was not polite..

Went to Elgin Toyota and they suggested to change both headlights since the
bumper has to come off..

Am I crazy or does that just doesn't jive?

Then I watch a nice looking lady at a shop change out the left one and she was
done in 2. 23 seconds.. Under three minutes?? What gives?

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Old 16 Mar 2015, 11:58 pm   #2 (permalink)
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In article <40c9a$550772b8$41b57997$20413@news.flashnewsgroup s.com>,
Dennis C <065b0505594b06f549b8b6640ba408f1_1465@example.com > wrote:
>
> Question would be, why do they have to take the bumper off, increasing the
> cost quite a bit? Had a 2007, one place scratched their heads for 45 minutes
> and came to me with a handful of printouts saying they had to take it off..
> Said goodbye, he was not polite..
>
> Went to Elgin Toyota and they suggested to change both headlights since the
> bumper has to come off..
>
> Am I crazy or does that just doesn't jive?
>
> Then I watch a nice looking lady at a shop change out the left one and she was
> done in 2. 23 seconds.. Under three minutes?? What gives?


Maybe you needed to be more precise about what you wanted done.

Changing the headlight may require removing the bumper.

Changing the headlight's *bulb* is usually easily done from the back of
the light, usually inside the engine bay (in a front engine car).
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Old 17 Mar 2015, 12:09 pm   #3 (permalink)
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:58:57 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

>In article <40c9a$550772b8$41b57997$20413@news.flashnewsgroup s.com>,
>Dennis C <065b0505594b06f549b8b6640ba408f1_1465@example.com > wrote:
>>
>> Question would be, why do they have to take the bumper off, increasing the
>> cost quite a bit? Had a 2007, one place scratched their heads for 45 minutes
>> and came to me with a handful of printouts saying they had to take it off..
>> Said goodbye, he was not polite..
>>
>> Went to Elgin Toyota and they suggested to change both headlights since the
>> bumper has to come off..
>>
>> Am I crazy or does that just doesn't jive?
>>
>> Then I watch a nice looking lady at a shop change out the left one and she was
>> done in 2. 23 seconds.. Under three minutes?? What gives?

>
>Maybe you needed to be more precise about what you wanted done.
>
>Changing the headlight may require removing the bumper.
>
>Changing the headlight's *bulb* is usually easily done from the back of
>the light, usually inside the engine bay (in a front engine car).


Why didn't the shop say: "It looks to me like your bulb is burned
out. Do you want the bulb replaced or the whole head light assembly?"
Why should a customer have to be familiar with "shop jargon".

Cheers!

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Old 17 Mar 2015, 01:01 pm   #4 (permalink)
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"Dennis C" <065b0505594b06f549b8b6640ba408f1_1465@example.com > wrote in
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> Question would be, why do they have to take the bumper off, increasing the
> cost quite a bit? Had a 2007, one place scratched their heads for 45
> minutes
> and came to me with a handful of printouts saying they had to take it
> off.. Said goodbye, he was not polite..
> Went to Elgin Toyota and they suggested to change both headlights since
> the
> bumper has to come off..
> Am I crazy or does that just doesn't jive?
>
> Then I watch a nice looking lady at a shop change out the left one and she
> was
> done in 2. 23 seconds.. Under three minutes?? What gives?


I do not know your car specifically, but most (all that I am aware of)
modern cars have lamps that come out to the engine bay side of the lamp
assembly. Usually, you open the hood and reach down the back side of the
headlamp to gain access to the light bulb. The lamp holder is usually
something that turns 30-ish degrees or so to release the lamp.

When working with the lamps, DO NOT TOUCH THE GLASS. If do touch the glass,
use isopropyl alcohol and a tissue or cotton pad to clean the grease of your
fingers -- EVEN IF YOUR FINGERS LOOK CLEAN TO YOU. Finger prints make hot
spots on the glass that will cause it to explode, and you will be replacing
a light bulb again, soon.


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Old 17 Mar 2015, 03:18 pm   #5 (permalink)
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replying to Autumn , Dennis C wrote:
> Autumn wrote:
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> On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:58:57 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
> Why didn't the shop say: "It looks to me like your bulb is burned
> out. Do you want the bulb replaced or the whole head light assembly?"
> Why should a customer have to be familiar with "shop jargon".
> Cheers!
> Autumn




Interesting answer.. Problem is I am 76 years old
Cars owned were 1948 Buick 1949 Chrysler. A Nash, A Henry J. Several Fords
in the 50's, were I learned how to fix cars.
Had great cars and no so. First new car was a The AMC Hornet is a compact
automobile which was manufactured and marketed by the American Motors
Corporation (AMC) in a single generation from model years 1970 through 1977. "

That was one of the worst mistakes I ever made..

Anyway, I know cars and I know when the headlight is burnt out.. All they do,
to make it easy for MEN, is remove the bumper to get to the housing.. They
never remove the assembly, no need too..

But as I said, watching a girl change one in a couple of minutes.. It is a
rip off as far as I am concerned.

I don't know if this link will work on this site...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Ur4oPhymY

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Old 17 Mar 2015, 04:01 pm   #6 (permalink)
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In article <takgga5q657rf3u6enhf3reohpemuseq64@4ax.com>, Autumn
<Autumn@Juno.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:58:57 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
> wrote:
> >In article <40c9a$550772b8$41b57997$20413@news.flashnewsgroup s.com>,
> >Dennis C <065b0505594b06f549b8b6640ba408f1_1465@example.com > wrote:
> >>
> >> Question would be, why do they have to take the bumper off, increasing the
> >> cost quite a bit? Had a 2007, one place scratched their heads for 45
> >> minutes and came to me with a handful of printouts saying they had to take
> >> it off..
> >> Said goodbye, he was not polite..
> >>
> >> Went to Elgin Toyota and they suggested to change both headlights since the
> >> bumper has to come off..
> >>
> >> Am I crazy or does that just doesn't jive?
> >>
> >> Then I watch a nice looking lady at a shop change out the left one and she
> >> was done in 2. 23 seconds.. Under three minutes?? What gives?

> >
> >Maybe you needed to be more precise about what you wanted done.
> >
> >Changing the headlight may require removing the bumper.
> >
> >Changing the headlight's *bulb* is usually easily done from the back of
> >the light, usually inside the engine bay (in a front engine car).

>
> Why didn't the shop say: "It looks to me like your bulb is burned
> out. Do you want the bulb replaced or the whole head light assembly?"


"The customer is always right" ... even when they're asking for
something that is obviously ridiculous.

Maybe the headlights looked scratched or fogged up.



> Why should a customer have to be familiar with "shop jargon".


Good grief!! "Bulb" isn't "shop jargon". :-\
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Old 18 Mar 2015, 09:18 am   #7 (permalink)
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replying to Jeff Strickland , Dennis C wrote:
> crwlrjeff wrote:
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> "Dennis C" <065b0505594b06f549b8b6640ba408f1_1465@example.com > wrote in
> message news:40c9a$550772b8$41b57997$20413@news.flashnewsg roups.com...
> I do not know your car specifically, but most (all that I am aware of)
> modern cars have lamps that come out to the engine bay side of the lamp
> assembly. Usually, you open the hood and reach down the back side of the
> headlamp to gain access to the light bulb. The lamp holder is usually
> something that turns 30-ish degrees or so to release the lamp.
> When working with the lamps, DO NOT TOUCH THE GLASS. If do touch the glass,
> use isopropyl alcohol and a tissue or cotton pad to clean the grease of your


> fingers -- EVEN IF YOUR FINGERS LOOK CLEAN TO YOU. Finger prints make hot
> spots on the glass that will cause it to explode, and you will be replacing
> a light bulb again, soon.



Yep, changed many a headlight, engine, transmission.. But even Toyota takes
the bumper off..
I tried and I am aware of not touching the bulb. but my hands are too large to
fit.

Maybe some sunny day I will venture out and look closer..

Changed the cabin filter today, feel good about that..

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Old 18 Mar 2015, 01:06 pm   #8 (permalink)
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"Dennis C" <065b0505594b06f549b8b6640ba408f1_1465@example.com > wrote in
message news:c97d1$55087de9$41b57997$11904@news.flashnewsg roups.com...
> replying to Autumn , Dennis C wrote:
>> Autumn wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:58:57 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> Why
>> didn't the shop say: "It looks to me like your bulb is burned out. Do
>> you want the bulb replaced or the whole head light assembly?" Why should
>> a customer have to be familiar with "shop jargon". Cheers! Autumn

>
>
>
> Interesting answer.. Problem is I am 76 years old
> Cars owned were 1948 Buick 1949 Chrysler. A Nash, A Henry J. Several
> Fords
> in the 50's, were I learned how to fix cars. Had great cars and no so.
> First new car was a The AMC Hornet is a compact
> automobile which was manufactured and marketed by the American Motors
> Corporation (AMC) in a single generation from model years 1970 through
> 1977. "
>
> That was one of the worst mistakes I ever made..
>
> Anyway, I know cars and I know when the headlight is burnt out.. All they
> do,
> to make it easy for MEN, is remove the bumper to get to the housing..
> They
> never remove the assembly, no need too..
>
> But as I said, watching a girl change one in a couple of minutes.. It is
> a
> rip off as far as I am concerned.
>
> I don't know if this link will work on this site...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Ur4oPhymY
>
> --



I'm confused. I told you that the bulb is replaced from the engine bay, and
you give us a video of replacing the bulb from the engine bay. What,
exactly, is the question we are helping you with?

One would replace the headlamp assembly if it was clouded or damaged, and
polishing was not an option. Maybe the car has some older style, and a
person wants to install a new LED based headlamp. There are lots of reasons
to replace an assembly, there is no reason to remove the assembly just
because the lamp is burnt out.

Having said that, if the bumper needs to come off, then there are typically
2 or 4 bolts that hold it on, so removing it is not a big deal. I've never
seen a car where the bumper had to be removed to replace a burnt out
headlamp.

Depending on the bulb, it should cost about $45 for two, and take less than
10 minutes to put them in. My car takes 4 bulbs, and when I replace them all
at once, I'm out of the store for less than $100 and I buy the expensive
halogen bulb from Sylvania.


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Old 19 Mar 2015, 12:18 am   #9 (permalink)
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replying to Jeff Strickland , Dennis C wrote:
> crwlrjeff wrote:
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> "Dennis C" <065b0505594b06f549b8b6640ba408f1_1465@example.com > wrote in
> message news:c97d1$55087de9$41b57997$11904@news.flashnewsg roups.com...
> I'm confused. I told you that the bulb is replaced from the engine bay, and
> you give us a video of replacing the bulb from the engine bay. What,
> exactly, is the question we are helping you with?
> One would replace the headlamp assembly if it was clouded or damaged, and
> polishing was not an option. Maybe the car has some older style, and a
> person wants to install a new LED based headlamp. There are lots of reasons
> to replace an assembly, there is no reason to remove the assembly just
> because the lamp is burnt out.
> Having said that, if the bumper needs to come off, then there are typically
> 2 or 4 bolts that hold it on, so removing it is not a big deal. I've never
> seen a car where the bumper had to be removed to replace a burnt out
> headlamp.
> Depending on the bulb, it should cost about $45 for two, and take less than
> 10 minutes to put them in. My car takes 4 bulbs, and when I replace them all


> at once, I'm out of the store for less than $100 and I buy the expensive
> halogen bulb from Sylvania.



Ok, either I am typing wrong or you reading wrong, a normal hand (MINE) cannot
"JUST" reach in.. No Fking way..

Headlamp CLOUDED, I am not interested in that, I have stuff that cleans it up..

Only 2/4 bolts that hold it on,, Except I am 76 and stopped crawling on the
ground a long time ago..

I would suggest you refer to the fact that I was talking about a 2007 Prius
and it is the same on the 2012 I have now
If you go to a ordinary garage, they might not know how to do it.

Toyota does it by the book and it works

This ends the conversation.. End of story

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Old 20 Mar 2015, 05:24 pm   #10 (permalink)
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:58:57 +1200, Your Name wrote:

> In article <40c9a$550772b8$41b57997$20413@news.flashnewsgroup s.com>,
> Dennis C <065b0505594b06f549b8b6640ba408f1_1465@example.com > wrote:
>>
>> Question would be, why do they have to take the bumper off, increasing
>> the cost quite a bit? Had a 2007, one place scratched their heads for
>> 45 minutes and came to me with a handful of printouts saying they had
>> to take it off.. Said goodbye, he was not polite..
>>
>> Went to Elgin Toyota and they suggested to change both headlights since
>> the bumper has to come off..
>>
>> Am I crazy or does that just doesn't jive?
>>
>> Then I watch a nice looking lady at a shop change out the left one and
>> she was done in 2. 23 seconds.. Under three minutes?? What gives?

>
> Maybe you needed to be more precise about what you wanted done.
>
> Changing the headlight may require removing the bumper.
>
> Changing the headlight's *bulb* is usually easily done from the back of
> the light, usually inside the engine bay (in a front engine car).


nless you own a Chevy, and then it's SOP. Friend's manual for changing
bulbs: Headlight: Bring car to dealer
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