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Old 18 Jun 2010, 07:00 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Most of the cars I've owned end up with annoying chips on the hood
eventually. I tend to keep a car 5-7 years so it probably doesn't
impact resale much as much as it is just aggravating.

I will be ordering a 2010 IS 250 soon, or perhaps finding one in
inventory and would like to know more about the paint option. I'm
sure the dealer will be happy to educate me but I would like some
unbiased feedback.

Specifically:

1. Is this a worthwhile option for preventing "highway hood dings"?
It's the long interstate drives where the average speed seems to be
about 75 to 80, and I hear the rock crunch the front of my car that
really drives me nuts. The economic downturn has meant less
dumptrucks with rocks falling out of them for the past few years but
I'm already seeing signs of that changing.

2. Does it dull the sheen of metallic painted surfaces at all once
applied? For example, if I put it only on the hood, would I be able
to see a difference in shine between the hood and front fenders?

Thanks to anyone who has hands-on experience with this product, if
you've only read about it you're no more knowledgeable on the subject
than me (with regard to the above questions at least) so in that case
I'll be happy to trade notes

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Old 19 Jun 2010, 10:13 am   #2 (permalink)
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"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
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>
> Most of the cars I've owned end up with annoying chips on the hood
> eventually. I tend to keep a car 5-7 years so it probably doesn't
> impact resale much as much as it is just aggravating.
>
> I will be ordering a 2010 IS 250 soon, or perhaps finding one in
> inventory and would like to know more about the paint option. I'm
> sure the dealer will be happy to educate me but I would like some
> unbiased feedback.
>
> Specifically:
>
> 1. Is this a worthwhile option for preventing "highway hood dings"?
> It's the long interstate drives where the average speed seems to be
> about 75 to 80, and I hear the rock crunch the front of my car that
> really drives me nuts. The economic downturn has meant less
> dumptrucks with rocks falling out of them for the past few years but
> I'm already seeing signs of that changing.
>
> 2. Does it dull the sheen of metallic painted surfaces at all once
> applied? For example, if I put it only on the hood, would I be able
> to see a difference in shine between the hood and front fenders?
>
> Thanks to anyone who has hands-on experience with this product, if
> you've only read about it you're no more knowledgeable on the subject
> than me (with regard to the above questions at least) so in that case
> I'll be happy to trade notes
>


The paint protection film that the factory uses is effective but it has a
pebbled appearance so when the factory applies the film, it is used in
inconspicuous areas like rocker panels and wheel wells.

Front end masks or bras are not always effective because if they become
loose, they will flap and damage the paint underneath.

Increasing the distance between vehicles at higher speeds reduces the chance
that rocks kicked up from tires will hit your car. When I encounter a
stretch or road with lots of debris, I just hang back until there is less
debris on the road and then work on getting past traffic.

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Old 19 Jun 2010, 10:42 am   #3 (permalink)
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:13:41 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:

>
>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>news:ji1o165gdhksjhdlr2qrn5ueppepqng6va@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> Most of the cars I've owned end up with annoying chips on the hood
>> eventually. I tend to keep a car 5-7 years so it probably doesn't
>> impact resale much as much as it is just aggravating.
>>
>> I will be ordering a 2010 IS 250 soon, or perhaps finding one in
>> inventory and would like to know more about the paint option. I'm
>> sure the dealer will be happy to educate me but I would like some
>> unbiased feedback.
>>
>> Specifically:
>>
>> 1. Is this a worthwhile option for preventing "highway hood dings"?
>> It's the long interstate drives where the average speed seems to be
>> about 75 to 80, and I hear the rock crunch the front of my car that
>> really drives me nuts. The economic downturn has meant less
>> dumptrucks with rocks falling out of them for the past few years but
>> I'm already seeing signs of that changing.
>>
>> 2. Does it dull the sheen of metallic painted surfaces at all once
>> applied? For example, if I put it only on the hood, would I be able
>> to see a difference in shine between the hood and front fenders?
>>
>> Thanks to anyone who has hands-on experience with this product, if
>> you've only read about it you're no more knowledgeable on the subject
>> than me (with regard to the above questions at least) so in that case
>> I'll be happy to trade notes
>>

>
>The paint protection film that the factory uses is effective but it has a
>pebbled appearance so when the factory applies the film, it is used in
>inconspicuous areas like rocker panels and wheel wells.
>
>Front end masks or bras are not always effective because if they become
>loose, they will flap and damage the paint underneath.
>
>Increasing the distance between vehicles at higher speeds reduces the chance
>that rocks kicked up from tires will hit your car. When I encounter a
>stretch or road with lots of debris, I just hang back until there is less
>debris on the road and then work on getting past traffic.


Thanks for the info, sounds like I should pass on using this stuff to
protect the front from rock dings. It seems odd to put film in
inconspicuous areas, I'm not sure I care as much about rock dings in
inconspicuous areas (unless they are major dings, which have never
really been a problem for me and I doubt the film would handle rocks
after a certain size).
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Old 19 Jun 2010, 11:22 am   #4 (permalink)
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"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:13:41 -0500, "Ray O"
> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>news:ji1o165gdhksjhdlr2qrn5ueppepqng6va@4ax.com. ..
>>>
>>> Most of the cars I've owned end up with annoying chips on the hood
>>> eventually. I tend to keep a car 5-7 years so it probably doesn't
>>> impact resale much as much as it is just aggravating.
>>>
>>> I will be ordering a 2010 IS 250 soon, or perhaps finding one in
>>> inventory and would like to know more about the paint option. I'm
>>> sure the dealer will be happy to educate me but I would like some
>>> unbiased feedback.
>>>
>>> Specifically:
>>>
>>> 1. Is this a worthwhile option for preventing "highway hood dings"?
>>> It's the long interstate drives where the average speed seems to be
>>> about 75 to 80, and I hear the rock crunch the front of my car that
>>> really drives me nuts. The economic downturn has meant less
>>> dumptrucks with rocks falling out of them for the past few years but
>>> I'm already seeing signs of that changing.
>>>
>>> 2. Does it dull the sheen of metallic painted surfaces at all once
>>> applied? For example, if I put it only on the hood, would I be able
>>> to see a difference in shine between the hood and front fenders?
>>>
>>> Thanks to anyone who has hands-on experience with this product, if
>>> you've only read about it you're no more knowledgeable on the subject
>>> than me (with regard to the above questions at least) so in that case
>>> I'll be happy to trade notes
>>>

>>
>>The paint protection film that the factory uses is effective but it has a
>>pebbled appearance so when the factory applies the film, it is used in
>>inconspicuous areas like rocker panels and wheel wells.
>>
>>Front end masks or bras are not always effective because if they become
>>loose, they will flap and damage the paint underneath.
>>
>>Increasing the distance between vehicles at higher speeds reduces the
>>chance
>>that rocks kicked up from tires will hit your car. When I encounter a
>>stretch or road with lots of debris, I just hang back until there is less
>>debris on the road and then work on getting past traffic.

>
> Thanks for the info, sounds like I should pass on using this stuff to
> protect the front from rock dings. It seems odd to put film in
> inconspicuous areas, I'm not sure I care as much about rock dings in
> inconspicuous areas (unless they are major dings, which have never
> really been a problem for me and I doubt the film would handle rocks
> after a certain size).


Toyota had problems with the paint being abraded at the leading edge of
pickup truck beds and at the front lower edge of rear wheel arch openings,
and on the rocker panels of some cars. The cure was the application of the
film. I was skeptical at first, but the film was effective.
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Old 19 Jun 2010, 03:14 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:22:35 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:

>
>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>news:88pp16h1mj42ufu5vfcmjpkbfb6le7h4ef@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:13:41 -0500, "Ray O"
>> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ji1o165gdhksjhdlr2qrn5ueppepqng6va@4ax.com ...
>>>>
>>>> Most of the cars I've owned end up with annoying chips on the hood
>>>> eventually. I tend to keep a car 5-7 years so it probably doesn't
>>>> impact resale much as much as it is just aggravating.
>>>>
>>>> I will be ordering a 2010 IS 250 soon, or perhaps finding one in
>>>> inventory and would like to know more about the paint option. I'm
>>>> sure the dealer will be happy to educate me but I would like some
>>>> unbiased feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Specifically:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Is this a worthwhile option for preventing "highway hood dings"?
>>>> It's the long interstate drives where the average speed seems to be
>>>> about 75 to 80, and I hear the rock crunch the front of my car that
>>>> really drives me nuts. The economic downturn has meant less
>>>> dumptrucks with rocks falling out of them for the past few years but
>>>> I'm already seeing signs of that changing.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Does it dull the sheen of metallic painted surfaces at all once
>>>> applied? For example, if I put it only on the hood, would I be able
>>>> to see a difference in shine between the hood and front fenders?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to anyone who has hands-on experience with this product, if
>>>> you've only read about it you're no more knowledgeable on the subject
>>>> than me (with regard to the above questions at least) so in that case
>>>> I'll be happy to trade notes
>>>>
>>>
>>>The paint protection film that the factory uses is effective but it has a
>>>pebbled appearance so when the factory applies the film, it is used in
>>>inconspicuous areas like rocker panels and wheel wells.
>>>
>>>Front end masks or bras are not always effective because if they become
>>>loose, they will flap and damage the paint underneath.
>>>
>>>Increasing the distance between vehicles at higher speeds reduces the
>>>chance
>>>that rocks kicked up from tires will hit your car. When I encounter a
>>>stretch or road with lots of debris, I just hang back until there is less
>>>debris on the road and then work on getting past traffic.

>>
>> Thanks for the info, sounds like I should pass on using this stuff to
>> protect the front from rock dings. It seems odd to put film in
>> inconspicuous areas, I'm not sure I care as much about rock dings in
>> inconspicuous areas (unless they are major dings, which have never
>> really been a problem for me and I doubt the film would handle rocks
>> after a certain size).

>
>Toyota had problems with the paint being abraded at the leading edge of
>pickup truck beds and at the front lower edge of rear wheel arch openings,
>and on the rocker panels of some cars. The cure was the application of the
>film. I was skeptical at first, but the film was effective.


You seem knowledgable about the brand, do you work for Toyota/Lexus?

Sorry if I'm insulting a regular or missing something in a FAQ or
otherwise opening myself up to noob insults. Many years back I used
to frequent auto newsgroups often once upon a time but I am completely
new to this one.

Looking forward to my IS 250 though, I have finalized paperwork on it
and will be driving it before the end of the month (just waiting for
it to arrive).
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Old 19 Jun 2010, 07:11 pm   #6 (permalink)
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"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
news:039q169b43afh2rbn4t6gubfhvrkujttg9@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:22:35 -0500, "Ray O"
> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>news:88pp16h1mj42ufu5vfcmjpkbfb6le7h4ef@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:13:41 -0500, "Ray O"
>>> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:ji1o165gdhksjhdlr2qrn5ueppepqng6va@4ax.co m...
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of the cars I've owned end up with annoying chips on the hood
>>>>> eventually. I tend to keep a car 5-7 years so it probably doesn't
>>>>> impact resale much as much as it is just aggravating.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be ordering a 2010 IS 250 soon, or perhaps finding one in
>>>>> inventory and would like to know more about the paint option. I'm
>>>>> sure the dealer will be happy to educate me but I would like some
>>>>> unbiased feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> Specifically:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Is this a worthwhile option for preventing "highway hood dings"?
>>>>> It's the long interstate drives where the average speed seems to be
>>>>> about 75 to 80, and I hear the rock crunch the front of my car that
>>>>> really drives me nuts. The economic downturn has meant less
>>>>> dumptrucks with rocks falling out of them for the past few years but
>>>>> I'm already seeing signs of that changing.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Does it dull the sheen of metallic painted surfaces at all once
>>>>> applied? For example, if I put it only on the hood, would I be able
>>>>> to see a difference in shine between the hood and front fenders?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to anyone who has hands-on experience with this product, if
>>>>> you've only read about it you're no more knowledgeable on the subject
>>>>> than me (with regard to the above questions at least) so in that case
>>>>> I'll be happy to trade notes
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The paint protection film that the factory uses is effective but it has
>>>>a
>>>>pebbled appearance so when the factory applies the film, it is used in
>>>>inconspicuous areas like rocker panels and wheel wells.
>>>>
>>>>Front end masks or bras are not always effective because if they become
>>>>loose, they will flap and damage the paint underneath.
>>>>
>>>>Increasing the distance between vehicles at higher speeds reduces the
>>>>chance
>>>>that rocks kicked up from tires will hit your car. When I encounter a
>>>>stretch or road with lots of debris, I just hang back until there is
>>>>less
>>>>debris on the road and then work on getting past traffic.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info, sounds like I should pass on using this stuff to
>>> protect the front from rock dings. It seems odd to put film in
>>> inconspicuous areas, I'm not sure I care as much about rock dings in
>>> inconspicuous areas (unless they are major dings, which have never
>>> really been a problem for me and I doubt the film would handle rocks
>>> after a certain size).

>>
>>Toyota had problems with the paint being abraded at the leading edge of
>>pickup truck beds and at the front lower edge of rear wheel arch openings,
>>and on the rocker panels of some cars. The cure was the application of
>>the
>>film. I was skeptical at first, but the film was effective.

>
> You seem knowledgable about the brand, do you work for Toyota/Lexus?
>
> Sorry if I'm insulting a regular or missing something in a FAQ or
> otherwise opening myself up to noob insults. Many years back I used
> to frequent auto newsgroups often once upon a time but I am completely
> new to this one.
>
> Looking forward to my IS 250 though, I have finalized paperwork on it
> and will be driving it before the end of the month (just waiting for
> it to arrive).


I spent 15 years working for Toyota but have been out of the car business
for 17 years now.

Enjoy your new IS!
--

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Old 19 Jun 2010, 09:15 pm   #7 (permalink)
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:11:28 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:

>
>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>news:039q169b43afh2rbn4t6gubfhvrkujttg9@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:22:35 -0500, "Ray O"
>> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>>news:88pp16h1mj42ufu5vfcmjpkbfb6le7h4ef@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:13:41 -0500, "Ray O"
>>>> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ji1o165gdhksjhdlr2qrn5ueppepqng6va@4ax.c om...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most of the cars I've owned end up with annoying chips on the hood
>>>>>> eventually. I tend to keep a car 5-7 years so it probably doesn't
>>>>>> impact resale much as much as it is just aggravating.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will be ordering a 2010 IS 250 soon, or perhaps finding one in
>>>>>> inventory and would like to know more about the paint option. I'm
>>>>>> sure the dealer will be happy to educate me but I would like some
>>>>>> unbiased feedback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Specifically:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Is this a worthwhile option for preventing "highway hood dings"?
>>>>>> It's the long interstate drives where the average speed seems to be
>>>>>> about 75 to 80, and I hear the rock crunch the front of my car that
>>>>>> really drives me nuts. The economic downturn has meant less
>>>>>> dumptrucks with rocks falling out of them for the past few years but
>>>>>> I'm already seeing signs of that changing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Does it dull the sheen of metallic painted surfaces at all once
>>>>>> applied? For example, if I put it only on the hood, would I be able
>>>>>> to see a difference in shine between the hood and front fenders?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to anyone who has hands-on experience with this product, if
>>>>>> you've only read about it you're no more knowledgeable on the subject
>>>>>> than me (with regard to the above questions at least) so in that case
>>>>>> I'll be happy to trade notes
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The paint protection film that the factory uses is effective but it has
>>>>>a
>>>>>pebbled appearance so when the factory applies the film, it is used in
>>>>>inconspicuous areas like rocker panels and wheel wells.
>>>>>
>>>>>Front end masks or bras are not always effective because if they become
>>>>>loose, they will flap and damage the paint underneath.
>>>>>
>>>>>Increasing the distance between vehicles at higher speeds reduces the
>>>>>chance
>>>>>that rocks kicked up from tires will hit your car. When I encounter a
>>>>>stretch or road with lots of debris, I just hang back until there is
>>>>>less
>>>>>debris on the road and then work on getting past traffic.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the info, sounds like I should pass on using this stuff to
>>>> protect the front from rock dings. It seems odd to put film in
>>>> inconspicuous areas, I'm not sure I care as much about rock dings in
>>>> inconspicuous areas (unless they are major dings, which have never
>>>> really been a problem for me and I doubt the film would handle rocks
>>>> after a certain size).
>>>
>>>Toyota had problems with the paint being abraded at the leading edge of
>>>pickup truck beds and at the front lower edge of rear wheel arch openings,
>>>and on the rocker panels of some cars. The cure was the application of
>>>the
>>>film. I was skeptical at first, but the film was effective.

>>
>> You seem knowledgable about the brand, do you work for Toyota/Lexus?
>>
>> Sorry if I'm insulting a regular or missing something in a FAQ or
>> otherwise opening myself up to noob insults. Many years back I used
>> to frequent auto newsgroups often once upon a time but I am completely
>> new to this one.
>>
>> Looking forward to my IS 250 though, I have finalized paperwork on it
>> and will be driving it before the end of the month (just waiting for
>> it to arrive).

>
>I spent 15 years working for Toyota but have been out of the car business
>for 17 years now.
>
>Enjoy your new IS!


Excellent, and thanks. I'm looking forward to the car. It will have
somewhat less horsepower than I'm used to, but I realized that I
didn't use about half of the horsepower I had in my previous cars 80%
of the time... on the rare occasions that I did, I ended up with
speeding tickets Unfortunately the smiley does not indicate a
joke, I really did get them a lot and I hated getting them and hated
paying my lawyer to get them dismissed (still cheaper than the
insurance hit though).

In my 40s now, I am more than willing to give up a little "feel the
road" with this car, especially when the roads often consist of
potholes in my area. Looking for a little softer ride, and also
better gas mileage. Could not stand the thought of a four-cylinder
anything (I just cannot stand the hi-RPM noise on the interstate), so
I'll take a six with a quiet ride and a little less 0-60 time. I've
always kind of enjoyed a soft, luxurious ride and I hope and expect
this is what I will get with this car, with a little bit of sports
sedan spunk thrown in. My last car had sports suspension and several
wheel bearing / hub assembly replacements which got expensive. This
seems like a pretty well balanced little car.
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Old 19 Jun 2010, 11:54 pm   #8 (permalink)
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"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:11:28 -0500, "Ray O"
> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>news:039q169b43afh2rbn4t6gubfhvrkujttg9@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:22:35 -0500, "Ray O"
>>> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:88pp16h1mj42ufu5vfcmjpkbfb6le7h4ef@4ax.co m...
>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:13:41 -0500, "Ray O"
>>>>> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:ji1o165gdhksjhdlr2qrn5ueppepqng6va@4ax. com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most of the cars I've owned end up with annoying chips on the hood
>>>>>>> eventually. I tend to keep a car 5-7 years so it probably doesn't
>>>>>>> impact resale much as much as it is just aggravating.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will be ordering a 2010 IS 250 soon, or perhaps finding one in
>>>>>>> inventory and would like to know more about the paint option. I'm
>>>>>>> sure the dealer will be happy to educate me but I would like some
>>>>>>> unbiased feedback.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Specifically:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Is this a worthwhile option for preventing "highway hood dings"?
>>>>>>> It's the long interstate drives where the average speed seems to be
>>>>>>> about 75 to 80, and I hear the rock crunch the front of my car that
>>>>>>> really drives me nuts. The economic downturn has meant less
>>>>>>> dumptrucks with rocks falling out of them for the past few years but
>>>>>>> I'm already seeing signs of that changing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Does it dull the sheen of metallic painted surfaces at all once
>>>>>>> applied? For example, if I put it only on the hood, would I be
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>> to see a difference in shine between the hood and front fenders?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks to anyone who has hands-on experience with this product, if
>>>>>>> you've only read about it you're no more knowledgeable on the
>>>>>>> subject
>>>>>>> than me (with regard to the above questions at least) so in that
>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>> I'll be happy to trade notes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The paint protection film that the factory uses is effective but it
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>pebbled appearance so when the factory applies the film, it is used in
>>>>>>inconspicuous areas like rocker panels and wheel wells.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Front end masks or bras are not always effective because if they
>>>>>>become
>>>>>>loose, they will flap and damage the paint underneath.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Increasing the distance between vehicles at higher speeds reduces the
>>>>>>chance
>>>>>>that rocks kicked up from tires will hit your car. When I encounter a
>>>>>>stretch or road with lots of debris, I just hang back until there is
>>>>>>less
>>>>>>debris on the road and then work on getting past traffic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the info, sounds like I should pass on using this stuff to
>>>>> protect the front from rock dings. It seems odd to put film in
>>>>> inconspicuous areas, I'm not sure I care as much about rock dings in
>>>>> inconspicuous areas (unless they are major dings, which have never
>>>>> really been a problem for me and I doubt the film would handle rocks
>>>>> after a certain size).
>>>>
>>>>Toyota had problems with the paint being abraded at the leading edge of
>>>>pickup truck beds and at the front lower edge of rear wheel arch
>>>>openings,
>>>>and on the rocker panels of some cars. The cure was the application of
>>>>the
>>>>film. I was skeptical at first, but the film was effective.
>>>
>>> You seem knowledgable about the brand, do you work for Toyota/Lexus?
>>>
>>> Sorry if I'm insulting a regular or missing something in a FAQ or
>>> otherwise opening myself up to noob insults. Many years back I used
>>> to frequent auto newsgroups often once upon a time but I am completely
>>> new to this one.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to my IS 250 though, I have finalized paperwork on it
>>> and will be driving it before the end of the month (just waiting for
>>> it to arrive).

>>
>>I spent 15 years working for Toyota but have been out of the car business
>>for 17 years now.
>>
>>Enjoy your new IS!

>
> Excellent, and thanks. I'm looking forward to the car. It will have
> somewhat less horsepower than I'm used to, but I realized that I
> didn't use about half of the horsepower I had in my previous cars 80%
> of the time... on the rare occasions that I did, I ended up with
> speeding tickets Unfortunately the smiley does not indicate a
> joke, I really did get them a lot and I hated getting them and hated
> paying my lawyer to get them dismissed (still cheaper than the
> insurance hit though).
>
> In my 40s now, I am more than willing to give up a little "feel the
> road" with this car, especially when the roads often consist of
> potholes in my area. Looking for a little softer ride, and also
> better gas mileage. Could not stand the thought of a four-cylinder
> anything (I just cannot stand the hi-RPM noise on the interstate), so
> I'll take a six with a quiet ride and a little less 0-60 time. I've
> always kind of enjoyed a soft, luxurious ride and I hope and expect
> this is what I will get with this car, with a little bit of sports
> sedan spunk thrown in. My last car had sports suspension and several
> wheel bearing / hub assembly replacements which got expensive. This
> seems like a pretty well balanced little car.


I'm assuming that you have driven the model car you are buying. The Lexus
dealer gave me an IS 250 AWD to drive, and after driving my LS. the ride
seemed a lot stiffer than the LS to me. It was fun to drive, it handled
much better than my LS, and was very quiet but not as quiet as the LS. I
now do commercial real estate sales, so the extra leg and elbow room in the
LS is nice for my clients but I would consider an IS if I didn't have to
worry about more than 1 passenger most of the time.
--

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Old 20 Jun 2010, 12:17 am   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: Question about "paint protection film option"

On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:54:07 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:

>
>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>news:01uq1651lq40jn8gassh6nu9k9kn7dn2is@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:11:28 -0500, "Ray O"
>> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>>news:039q169b43afh2rbn4t6gubfhvrkujttg9@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:22:35 -0500, "Ray O"
>>>> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:88pp16h1mj42ufu5vfcmjpkbfb6le7h4ef@4ax.c om...
>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:13:41 -0500, "Ray O"
>>>>>> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:ji1o165gdhksjhdlr2qrn5ueppepqng6va@4ax .com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Most of the cars I've owned end up with annoying chips on the hood
>>>>>>>> eventually. I tend to keep a car 5-7 years so it probably doesn't
>>>>>>>> impact resale much as much as it is just aggravating.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will be ordering a 2010 IS 250 soon, or perhaps finding one in
>>>>>>>> inventory and would like to know more about the paint option. I'm
>>>>>>>> sure the dealer will be happy to educate me but I would like some
>>>>>>>> unbiased feedback.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Specifically:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Is this a worthwhile option for preventing "highway hood dings"?
>>>>>>>> It's the long interstate drives where the average speed seems to be
>>>>>>>> about 75 to 80, and I hear the rock crunch the front of my car that
>>>>>>>> really drives me nuts. The economic downturn has meant less
>>>>>>>> dumptrucks with rocks falling out of them for the past few years but
>>>>>>>> I'm already seeing signs of that changing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. Does it dull the sheen of metallic painted surfaces at all once
>>>>>>>> applied? For example, if I put it only on the hood, would I be
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>> to see a difference in shine between the hood and front fenders?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks to anyone who has hands-on experience with this product, if
>>>>>>>> you've only read about it you're no more knowledgeable on the
>>>>>>>> subject
>>>>>>>> than me (with regard to the above questions at least) so in that
>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>> I'll be happy to trade notes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The paint protection film that the factory uses is effective but it
>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>pebbled appearance so when the factory applies the film, it is used in
>>>>>>>inconspicuous areas like rocker panels and wheel wells.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Front end masks or bras are not always effective because if they
>>>>>>>become
>>>>>>>loose, they will flap and damage the paint underneath.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Increasing the distance between vehicles at higher speeds reduces the
>>>>>>>chance
>>>>>>>that rocks kicked up from tires will hit your car. When I encounter a
>>>>>>>stretch or road with lots of debris, I just hang back until there is
>>>>>>>less
>>>>>>>debris on the road and then work on getting past traffic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the info, sounds like I should pass on using this stuff to
>>>>>> protect the front from rock dings. It seems odd to put film in
>>>>>> inconspicuous areas, I'm not sure I care as much about rock dings in
>>>>>> inconspicuous areas (unless they are major dings, which have never
>>>>>> really been a problem for me and I doubt the film would handle rocks
>>>>>> after a certain size).
>>>>>
>>>>>Toyota had problems with the paint being abraded at the leading edge of
>>>>>pickup truck beds and at the front lower edge of rear wheel arch
>>>>>openings,
>>>>>and on the rocker panels of some cars. The cure was the application of
>>>>>the
>>>>>film. I was skeptical at first, but the film was effective.
>>>>
>>>> You seem knowledgable about the brand, do you work for Toyota/Lexus?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry if I'm insulting a regular or missing something in a FAQ or
>>>> otherwise opening myself up to noob insults. Many years back I used
>>>> to frequent auto newsgroups often once upon a time but I am completely
>>>> new to this one.
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to my IS 250 though, I have finalized paperwork on it
>>>> and will be driving it before the end of the month (just waiting for
>>>> it to arrive).
>>>
>>>I spent 15 years working for Toyota but have been out of the car business
>>>for 17 years now.
>>>
>>>Enjoy your new IS!

>>
>> Excellent, and thanks. I'm looking forward to the car. It will have
>> somewhat less horsepower than I'm used to, but I realized that I
>> didn't use about half of the horsepower I had in my previous cars 80%
>> of the time... on the rare occasions that I did, I ended up with
>> speeding tickets Unfortunately the smiley does not indicate a
>> joke, I really did get them a lot and I hated getting them and hated
>> paying my lawyer to get them dismissed (still cheaper than the
>> insurance hit though).
>>
>> In my 40s now, I am more than willing to give up a little "feel the
>> road" with this car, especially when the roads often consist of
>> potholes in my area. Looking for a little softer ride, and also
>> better gas mileage. Could not stand the thought of a four-cylinder
>> anything (I just cannot stand the hi-RPM noise on the interstate), so
>> I'll take a six with a quiet ride and a little less 0-60 time. I've
>> always kind of enjoyed a soft, luxurious ride and I hope and expect
>> this is what I will get with this car, with a little bit of sports
>> sedan spunk thrown in. My last car had sports suspension and several
>> wheel bearing / hub assembly replacements which got expensive. This
>> seems like a pretty well balanced little car.

>
>I'm assuming that you have driven the model car you are buying. The Lexus
>dealer gave me an IS 250 AWD to drive, and after driving my LS. the ride
>seemed a lot stiffer than the LS to me. It was fun to drive, it handled
>much better than my LS, and was very quiet but not as quiet as the LS. I
>now do commercial real estate sales, so the extra leg and elbow room in the
>LS is nice for my clients but I would consider an IS if I didn't have to
>worry about more than 1 passenger most of the time.


Even though I've given the courtesy deposit, if for some reason I hate
the car after it comes in I can still work something out (I doubt that
would happen though).

I drove an IS when it first came out, but not recently..I understand
it's been refined slightly since then. I'm buying it using the same
basic strategy as I did previous cars: there may be something I don't
like about it but I'm probably not going to identify it in a last
minute test drive, the small irritations are usually getting over
whatever I was used to before and go away in a couple of days if that
makes sense. I'm one of those creature of habit types and if there is
something I don't like I will get over it pretty quickly, just a
matter of giving myself time to adapt to the new. The sort of stuff
that would give me long-term buyers remorse is something like total
back discomfort on long drives (aside from body pains I'm pretty easy
going), and Japanese cars have never disappointed me over the
long-term.

With regard to passenger load you just described my lifestyle and why
this is the right car for I think....naturally that was part of my
research and I realized the cramped back seats of the IS were not an
issue in my case. Some of the other cars on my menu were actually
2-door coupes with less in the back believe it or not. In my line of
work, having no room for others often means the discount of being able
to catch a ride with someone else and foregoing ever-rediculous fuel
costs (that's not really my primary motive as much as a side
benefit of small back seats).
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Old 20 Jun 2010, 12:43 am   #10 (permalink)
Ray O
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"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:54:07 -0500, "Ray O"
> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>news:01uq1651lq40jn8gassh6nu9k9kn7dn2is@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:11:28 -0500, "Ray O"
>>> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:039q169b43afh2rbn4t6gubfhvrkujttg9@4ax.co m...
>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:22:35 -0500, "Ray O"
>>>>> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:88pp16h1mj42ufu5vfcmjpkbfb6le7h4ef@4ax. com...
>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:13:41 -0500, "Ray O"
>>>>>>> <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Michael Walken" <removedit@nospammin.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:ji1o165gdhksjhdlr2qrn5ueppepqng6va@4a x.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Most of the cars I've owned end up with annoying chips on the hood
>>>>>>>>> eventually. I tend to keep a car 5-7 years so it probably doesn't
>>>>>>>>> impact resale much as much as it is just aggravating.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will be ordering a 2010 IS 250 soon, or perhaps finding one in
>>>>>>>>> inventory and would like to know more about the paint option. I'm
>>>>>>>>> sure the dealer will be happy to educate me but I would like some
>>>>>>>>> unbiased feedback.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Specifically:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Is this a worthwhile option for preventing "highway hood
>>>>>>>>> dings"?
>>>>>>>>> It's the long interstate drives where the average speed seems to
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> about 75 to 80, and I hear the rock crunch the front of my car
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> really drives me nuts. The economic downturn has meant less
>>>>>>>>> dumptrucks with rocks falling out of them for the past few years
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> I'm already seeing signs of that changing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. Does it dull the sheen of metallic painted surfaces at all
>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>> applied? For example, if I put it only on the hood, would I be
>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>> to see a difference in shine between the hood and front fenders?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks to anyone who has hands-on experience with this product, if
>>>>>>>>> you've only read about it you're no more knowledgeable on the
>>>>>>>>> subject
>>>>>>>>> than me (with regard to the above questions at least) so in that
>>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>>> I'll be happy to trade notes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The paint protection film that the factory uses is effective but it
>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>pebbled appearance so when the factory applies the film, it is used
>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>inconspicuous areas like rocker panels and wheel wells.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Front end masks or bras are not always effective because if they
>>>>>>>>become
>>>>>>>>loose, they will flap and damage the paint underneath.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Increasing the distance between vehicles at higher speeds reduces
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>chance
>>>>>>>>that rocks kicked up from tires will hit your car. When I encounter
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>stretch or road with lots of debris, I just hang back until there is
>>>>>>>>less
>>>>>>>>debris on the road and then work on getting past traffic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the info, sounds like I should pass on using this stuff
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> protect the front from rock dings. It seems odd to put film in
>>>>>>> inconspicuous areas, I'm not sure I care as much about rock dings in
>>>>>>> inconspicuous areas (unless they are major dings, which have never
>>>>>>> really been a problem for me and I doubt the film would handle rocks
>>>>>>> after a certain size).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Toyota had problems with the paint being abraded at the leading edge
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>pickup truck beds and at the front lower edge of rear wheel arch
>>>>>>openings,
>>>>>>and on the rocker panels of some cars. The cure was the application
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>film. I was skeptical at first, but the film was effective.
>>>>>
>>>>> You seem knowledgable about the brand, do you work for Toyota/Lexus?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry if I'm insulting a regular or missing something in a FAQ or
>>>>> otherwise opening myself up to noob insults. Many years back I used
>>>>> to frequent auto newsgroups often once upon a time but I am completely
>>>>> new to this one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to my IS 250 though, I have finalized paperwork on it
>>>>> and will be driving it before the end of the month (just waiting for
>>>>> it to arrive).
>>>>
>>>>I spent 15 years working for Toyota but have been out of the car
>>>>business
>>>>for 17 years now.
>>>>
>>>>Enjoy your new IS!
>>>
>>> Excellent, and thanks. I'm looking forward to the car. It will have
>>> somewhat less horsepower than I'm used to, but I realized that I
>>> didn't use about half of the horsepower I had in my previous cars 80%
>>> of the time... on the rare occasions that I did, I ended up with
>>> speeding tickets Unfortunately the smiley does not indicate a
>>> joke, I really did get them a lot and I hated getting them and hated
>>> paying my lawyer to get them dismissed (still cheaper than the
>>> insurance hit though).
>>>
>>> In my 40s now, I am more than willing to give up a little "feel the
>>> road" with this car, especially when the roads often consist of
>>> potholes in my area. Looking for a little softer ride, and also
>>> better gas mileage. Could not stand the thought of a four-cylinder
>>> anything (I just cannot stand the hi-RPM noise on the interstate), so
>>> I'll take a six with a quiet ride and a little less 0-60 time. I've
>>> always kind of enjoyed a soft, luxurious ride and I hope and expect
>>> this is what I will get with this car, with a little bit of sports
>>> sedan spunk thrown in. My last car had sports suspension and several
>>> wheel bearing / hub assembly replacements which got expensive. This
>>> seems like a pretty well balanced little car.

>>
>>I'm assuming that you have driven the model car you are buying. The Lexus
>>dealer gave me an IS 250 AWD to drive, and after driving my LS. the ride
>>seemed a lot stiffer than the LS to me. It was fun to drive, it handled
>>much better than my LS, and was very quiet but not as quiet as the LS. I
>>now do commercial real estate sales, so the extra leg and elbow room in
>>the
>>LS is nice for my clients but I would consider an IS if I didn't have to
>>worry about more than 1 passenger most of the time.

>
> Even though I've given the courtesy deposit, if for some reason I hate
> the car after it comes in I can still work something out (I doubt that
> would happen though).
>
> I drove an IS when it first came out, but not recently..I understand
> it's been refined slightly since then. I'm buying it using the same
> basic strategy as I did previous cars: there may be something I don't
> like about it but I'm probably not going to identify it in a last
> minute test drive, the small irritations are usually getting over
> whatever I was used to before and go away in a couple of days if that
> makes sense. I'm one of those creature of habit types and if there is
> something I don't like I will get over it pretty quickly, just a
> matter of giving myself time to adapt to the new. The sort of stuff
> that would give me long-term buyers remorse is something like total
> back discomfort on long drives (aside from body pains I'm pretty easy
> going), and Japanese cars have never disappointed me over the
> long-term.
>
> With regard to passenger load you just described my lifestyle and why
> this is the right car for I think....naturally that was part of my
> research and I realized the cramped back seats of the IS were not an
> issue in my case. Some of the other cars on my menu were actually
> 2-door coupes with less in the back believe it or not. In my line of
> work, having no room for others often means the discount of being able
> to catch a ride with someone else and foregoing ever-rediculous fuel
> costs (that's not really my primary motive as much as a side
> benefit of small back seats).


It sounds like you have thought this through, so....
Enjoy your new ride!
--

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