"The Sun Never Sets on GM's Automotive Talent"

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Old 15 Aug 2010, 12:53 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Default "The Sun Never Sets on GM's Automotive Talent"

"Specifically, I asked Terry Woychowski, GM's vice president, vehicle
program management, this: "Does the GM CEO need to be a car guy?"

Woychowski, who has spent his career at GM and has more car-guy street
cred in his little finger than I will ever possess, said in very clear
terms: "No."

See, Woychowski knows something all of the pundits seem to have
forgotten: GM is chock full of car guys -- and a load of car gals too.

They fill the Warren Tech Center. They work every day at the Milford
Proving Grounds. They commute to offices in Germany, South Korea,
China and Australia. The sun never sets on GM's automotive talent.

From The Detroit News:
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...#ixzz0wh71WjAq
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Old 15 Aug 2010, 05:02 pm   #2 (permalink)
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Default Freep.com and Detroitnews.com voted top tabloid sites


johnny douchebag gets his world news from Fox and his car news from
these two sites.

Just so you know which ones to avoid.
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Old 16 Aug 2010, 10:42 am   #3 (permalink)
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So you can copy and paste. I'll bet it took you 3 hours to learn that
concept.

Just FYI.


Save your coins. They need exact change when you take the bus.


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Old 16 Aug 2010, 02:13 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: "The Sun Never Rises on GM's Automotive Talent"

On 08/16/2010 07:42 AM, Ignacio Shagnasty wrote:
> So you can copy and paste. I'll bet it took you 3 hours to learn that
> concept.
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> Just FYI.
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> Save your coins. They need exact change when you take the bus.
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fixed title.


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Old 16 Aug 2010, 02:38 pm   #5 (permalink)
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jim beam wrote:
> On 08/16/2010 07:42 AM, Ignacio Shagnasty wrote:
>> So you can copy and paste. I'll bet it took you 3 hours to learn that
>> concept.
>>
>> Just FYI.
>>
>>
>> Save your coins. They need exact change when you take the bus.
>>
>>

>
> fixed title.


Title was correct before. GM has a lot of automotive talent. Sadly, it
has been shown a lot lately in the US. But they do have it, espeically
in the market where they sell the most cars: China.

I fixed title for real.

Jeff
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Old 16 Aug 2010, 02:45 pm   #6 (permalink)
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dr_jeff <utz@msu.edu> wrote:
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>Title was correct before. GM has a lot of automotive talent. Sadly, it
>has been shown a lot lately in the US. But they do have it, espeically
>in the market where they sell the most cars: China.


GM gets great ideas, then they don't follow through with them. A good
example was the Northstar System... great engine design, just had a few
minor problems that had some pretty severe consequences. Did they ECO
everything and make it right? They did not. They ignored them.

I am still amazed at the Cadillac CTS.... it is the first really good car
they've made in ages. It's a Cadillac but it actually drives and rides
like a real car; you can tell there is road underneath you. It's smooth
but it's not totally decoupled from the road. Folks who drive it like it.
So what did GM do? Did they promote the design team and put them in charge
of the rest of the GM line? They did not. They laid them off.

Sheesh. GM.
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Old 16 Aug 2010, 02:56 pm   #7 (permalink)
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"dr_jeff" <utz@msu.edu> wrote in message
news:6pWdnYWAOLQ3GPTRnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> jim beam wrote:
>> On 08/16/2010 07:42 AM, Ignacio Shagnasty wrote:
>>> So you can copy and paste. I'll bet it took you 3 hours to learn that
>>> concept.
>>>
>>> Just FYI.
>>>
>>>
>>> Save your coins. They need exact change when you take the bus.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> fixed title.

>
> Title was correct before. GM has a lot of automotive talent. Sadly, it has
> been shown a lot lately in the US. But they do have it, espeically in the
> market where they sell the most cars: China.
>
> I fixed title for real.
>
> Jeff


Sorry but you are in error. I had to fix the title again. GM has so much
talent, they build SHIT. Talent we don't want or need. Get over it.


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Old 16 Aug 2010, 02:57 pm   #8 (permalink)
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"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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> dr_jeff <utz@msu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>Title was correct before. GM has a lot of automotive talent. Sadly, it
>>has been shown a lot lately in the US. But they do have it, espeically
>>in the market where they sell the most cars: China.

>
> GM gets great ideas, then they don't follow through with them. A good
> example was the Northstar System... great engine design, just had a few
> minor problems that had some pretty severe consequences. Did they ECO
> everything and make it right? They did not. They ignored them.


One of GM's great ideas: Hey guys, let's all carpool to McDonald's and
order off the dollar menu.


>
> I am still amazed at the Cadillac CTS.... it is the first really good car
> they've made in ages. It's a Cadillac but it actually drives and rides
> like a real car; you can tell there is road underneath you. It's smooth
> but it's not totally decoupled from the road. Folks who drive it like it.


They don't know any better.


> So what did GM do? Did they promote the design team and put them in
> charge
> of the rest of the GM line? They did not. They laid them off.
>
> Sheesh. GM.
> --scott
>
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


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Old 16 Aug 2010, 03:08 pm   #9 (permalink)
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Ignacio Shagnasty wrote:
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> "Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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<...>

>> I am still amazed at the Cadillac CTS.... it is the first really good car
>> they've made in ages. It's a Cadillac but it actually drives and rides
>> like a real car; you can tell there is road underneath you. It's smooth
>> but it's not totally decoupled from the road. Folks who drive it like
>> it.

>
> They don't know any better.


Not everyone has the same likes and dislikes as you. Just because you
don't like GM cars (I don't either) doesn't mean that they don't build
good products. Likewise, people who like the CTS know quality. They have
different taste than you, but not everyone has the same taste.

People besides Toyota build good cars. Get over it.

Jeff
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Old 16 Aug 2010, 03:18 pm   #10 (permalink)
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"dr_jeff" <utz@msu.edu> wrote in message
news:L4GdnQLCipMhEfTRnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> Ignacio Shagnasty wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
>> news:i4c10r$n33$1@panix2.panix.com...

>
> <...>
>
>>> I am still amazed at the Cadillac CTS.... it is the first really good
>>> car
>>> they've made in ages. It's a Cadillac but it actually drives and rides
>>> like a real car; you can tell there is road underneath you. It's smooth
>>> but it's not totally decoupled from the road. Folks who drive it like
>>> it.

>>
>> They don't know any better.

>
> Not everyone has the same likes and dislikes as you. Just because you
> don't like GM cars (I don't either) doesn't mean that they don't build
> good products. Likewise, people who like the CTS know quality. They have
> different taste than you, but not everyone has the same taste.
>


Take a look at consumer reports and compare the reliability of the Japanese
vehicles to the American vehicles. I am not talking first six months but
3-4 years down the line. I am not spending $50k on a Cadillac CTS just to
replace it within 3 years when I can spend the same amount of money and keep
my Japanese vehicle for 10 years!


> People besides Toyota build good cars. Get over it.
>
> Jeff


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