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Old 29 Aug 2010, 10:02 am   #1 (permalink)
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Ever since I bought my 2004 ES330 six years ago, there's been a mild wind
noise. The wind noise occurs when traveling about 55 mph or more on certain
days, presumably when the wind hits in a certain direction, etc. The sound
comes from the sunroof area and sounds like the sunroof is very slightly
open.

When I go to my local Lexus dealer for regular service, I ask them to look
at it, but they've never been able to get rid of the problem. When I look
at the way the sunroof aligns with the roof, it looks pretty smooth to me.
I can't figure out what could be generating this noise. Is this a design
defect? Am I just wasting my time asking them to fix it?


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Old 29 Aug 2010, 12:09 pm   #2 (permalink)
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"David Z" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Ever since I bought my 2004 ES330 six years ago, there's been a mild wind
> noise. The wind noise occurs when traveling about 55 mph or more on
> certain days, presumably when the wind hits in a certain direction, etc.
> The sound comes from the sunroof area and sounds like the sunroof is very
> slightly open.
>
> When I go to my local Lexus dealer for regular service, I ask them to look
> at it, but they've never been able to get rid of the problem. When I look
> at the way the sunroof aligns with the roof, it looks pretty smooth to me.
> I can't figure out what could be generating this noise. Is this a design
> defect? Am I just wasting my time asking them to fix it?
>


Does the noise go away when you close the interior sun shade?
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Old 29 Aug 2010, 12:15 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"Ray O" <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>> Ever since I bought my 2004 ES330 six years ago, there's been a mild wind
>> noise. The wind noise occurs when traveling about 55 mph or more on
>> certain days, presumably when the wind hits in a certain direction, etc.
>> The sound comes from the sunroof area and sounds like the sunroof is very
>> slightly open.
>>
>> When I go to my local Lexus dealer for regular service, I ask them to
>> look at it, but they've never been able to get rid of the problem. When
>> I look at the way the sunroof aligns with the roof, it looks pretty
>> smooth to me. I can't figure out what could be generating this noise. Is
>> this a design defect? Am I just wasting my time asking them to fix it?
>>

>
> Does the noise go away when you close the interior sun shade?


IIRC, no, but it's slightly muted.


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Old 29 Aug 2010, 01:14 pm   #4 (permalink)
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"David Z" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>> "David Z" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>>> Ever since I bought my 2004 ES330 six years ago, there's been a mild
>>> wind noise. The wind noise occurs when traveling about 55 mph or more
>>> on certain days, presumably when the wind hits in a certain direction,
>>> etc. The sound comes from the sunroof area and sounds like the sunroof
>>> is very slightly open.
>>>
>>> When I go to my local Lexus dealer for regular service, I ask them to
>>> look at it, but they've never been able to get rid of the problem. When
>>> I look at the way the sunroof aligns with the roof, it looks pretty
>>> smooth to me. I can't figure out what could be generating this noise.
>>> Is this a design defect? Am I just wasting my time asking them to fix
>>> it?
>>>

>>
>> Does the noise go away when you close the interior sun shade?

>
> IIRC, no, but it's slightly muted.
>


Try placing duct tape across the top of the windshield, covering the black
sealer between the windshield and body and any trim. If the noise goes
away, the trim or black sealer may need some re-sealing. A glass shop
should be be to check for you.
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Old 29 Aug 2010, 03:34 pm   #5 (permalink)
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>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>>> "David Z" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>>>> Ever since I bought my 2004 ES330 six years ago, there's been a mild
>>>> wind noise. The wind noise occurs when traveling about 55 mph or more
>>>> on certain days, presumably when the wind hits in a certain direction,
>>>> etc. The sound comes from the sunroof area and sounds like the sunroof
>>>> is very slightly open.
>>>>
>>>> When I go to my local Lexus dealer for regular service, I ask them to
>>>> look at it, but they've never been able to get rid of the problem.
>>>> When I look at the way the sunroof aligns with the roof, it looks
>>>> pretty smooth to me. I can't figure out what could be generating this
>>>> noise. Is this a design defect? Am I just wasting my time asking them
>>>> to fix it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Does the noise go away when you close the interior sun shade?

>>
>> IIRC, no, but it's slightly muted.
>>

>
> Try placing duct tape across the top of the windshield, covering the black
> sealer between the windshield and body and any trim. If the noise goes
> away, the trim or black sealer may need some re-sealing. A glass shop
> should be be to check for you.


Thanks, Ray. I'll give that a try when I get my car back from the dealer.

When I looked a couple of days ago, I did notice that there's about a 1/4
inch gap between the black sealer at the top of the windshield and where the
roof starts. In between the 2, there's about a 1/4 inch drop.


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Old 29 Aug 2010, 10:03 pm   #6 (permalink)
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"David Z" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>> "David Z" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>>>> "David Z" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> Ever since I bought my 2004 ES330 six years ago, there's been a mild
>>>>> wind noise. The wind noise occurs when traveling about 55 mph or more
>>>>> on certain days, presumably when the wind hits in a certain direction,
>>>>> etc. The sound comes from the sunroof area and sounds like the sunroof
>>>>> is very slightly open.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I go to my local Lexus dealer for regular service, I ask them to
>>>>> look at it, but they've never been able to get rid of the problem.
>>>>> When I look at the way the sunroof aligns with the roof, it looks
>>>>> pretty smooth to me. I can't figure out what could be generating this
>>>>> noise. Is this a design defect? Am I just wasting my time asking them
>>>>> to fix it?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does the noise go away when you close the interior sun shade?
>>>
>>> IIRC, no, but it's slightly muted.
>>>

>>
>> Try placing duct tape across the top of the windshield, covering the
>> black sealer between the windshield and body and any trim. If the noise
>> goes away, the trim or black sealer may need some re-sealing. A glass
>> shop should be be to check for you.

>
> Thanks, Ray. I'll give that a try when I get my car back from the dealer.
>
> When I looked a couple of days ago, I did notice that there's about a 1/4
> inch gap between the black sealer at the top of the windshield and where
> the roof starts. In between the 2, there's about a 1/4 inch drop.
>

You're welcome! I suspect that the gap is the cause of the noise.
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Old 11 Sep 2010, 07:21 pm   #7 (permalink)
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"Ray O" <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>>>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> "David Z" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>> Ever since I bought my 2004 ES330 six years ago, there's been a mild
>>>>>> wind noise. The wind noise occurs when traveling about 55 mph or
>>>>>> more on certain days, presumably when the wind hits in a certain
>>>>>> direction, etc. The sound comes from the sunroof area and sounds like
>>>>>> the sunroof is very slightly open.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I go to my local Lexus dealer for regular service, I ask them to
>>>>>> look at it, but they've never been able to get rid of the problem.
>>>>>> When I look at the way the sunroof aligns with the roof, it looks
>>>>>> pretty smooth to me. I can't figure out what could be generating this
>>>>>> noise. Is this a design defect? Am I just wasting my time asking
>>>>>> them to fix it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does the noise go away when you close the interior sun shade?
>>>>
>>>> IIRC, no, but it's slightly muted.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Try placing duct tape across the top of the windshield, covering the
>>> black sealer between the windshield and body and any trim. If the noise
>>> goes away, the trim or black sealer may need some re-sealing. A glass
>>> shop should be be to check for you.

>>
>> Thanks, Ray. I'll give that a try when I get my car back from the
>> dealer.
>>
>> When I looked a couple of days ago, I did notice that there's about a 1/4
>> inch gap between the black sealer at the top of the windshield and where
>> the roof starts. In between the 2, there's about a 1/4 inch drop.
>>

> You're welcome! I suspect that the gap is the cause of the noise.


Got my car back last week. Took it out on the highway a few times and it
seems like the wind noise is (finally)gone. They say they replaced a
molding, but I think they've said/done that before.

BTW, while I was at the dealer, I checked out the other ES330s on the used
car lot and they all have that same small 1/4 inch gap between the black
sealer at the top of the windshield and where the roof starts. So, it's
still a mystery to me.


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Old 13 Sep 2010, 12:38 am   #8 (permalink)
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"David Z" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>> "David Z" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>>>> "David Z" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>> "David Z" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> Ever since I bought my 2004 ES330 six years ago, there's been a mild
>>>>>>> wind noise. The wind noise occurs when traveling about 55 mph or
>>>>>>> more on certain days, presumably when the wind hits in a certain
>>>>>>> direction, etc. The sound comes from the sunroof area and sounds
>>>>>>> like the sunroof is very slightly open.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I go to my local Lexus dealer for regular service, I ask them
>>>>>>> to look at it, but they've never been able to get rid of the
>>>>>>> problem. When I look at the way the sunroof aligns with the roof, it
>>>>>>> looks pretty smooth to me. I can't figure out what could be
>>>>>>> generating this noise. Is this a design defect? Am I just wasting
>>>>>>> my time asking them to fix it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the noise go away when you close the interior sun shade?
>>>>>
>>>>> IIRC, no, but it's slightly muted.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Try placing duct tape across the top of the windshield, covering the
>>>> black sealer between the windshield and body and any trim. If the
>>>> noise goes away, the trim or black sealer may need some re-sealing. A
>>>> glass shop should be be to check for you.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Ray. I'll give that a try when I get my car back from the
>>> dealer.
>>>
>>> When I looked a couple of days ago, I did notice that there's about a
>>> 1/4 inch gap between the black sealer at the top of the windshield and
>>> where the roof starts. In between the 2, there's about a 1/4 inch drop.
>>>

>> You're welcome! I suspect that the gap is the cause of the noise.

>
> Got my car back last week. Took it out on the highway a few times and it
> seems like the wind noise is (finally)gone. They say they replaced a
> molding, but I think they've said/done that before.
>
> BTW, while I was at the dealer, I checked out the other ES330s on the used
> car lot and they all have that same small 1/4 inch gap between the black
> sealer at the top of the windshield and where the roof starts. So, it's
> still a mystery to me.
>


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