Toyota dealership uses wrong cabin air filter for Lexus?

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Old 28 Dec 2011, 07:53 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Default Toyota dealership uses wrong cabin air filter for Lexus?

I took my car (2000 Lexus ES 300) to a Toyota Dealership.
Requested cabin air filter replacement. It is an extremely difficult
part to reach on the 2000 Lexus ES 300 (close to the accelerator
pedal/center floor console).
They claimed they changed it: Part #87139-YZZ05, and gave me the
supposedly old filter (I requested to see it).

To the best of my knowledge, the 87139-YZZ05 is the cabin filter for
2002 and later Toyota/Lexus models.
The 2000 ES 300 uses a cabin filter that looks like this:
http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/200...ake/cabin_air_
filter.html

What is the best course of action now?

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Old 29 Dec 2011, 07:37 am   #2 (permalink)
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On 12/28/2011 7:53 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> I took my car (2000 Lexus ES 300) to a Toyota Dealership.
> Requested cabin air filter replacement. It is an extremely difficult
> part to reach on the 2000 Lexus ES 300 (close to the accelerator
> pedal/center floor console).
> They claimed they changed it: Part #87139-YZZ05, and gave me the
> supposedly old filter (I requested to see it).
>
> To the best of my knowledge, the 87139-YZZ05 is the cabin filter for
> 2002 and later Toyota/Lexus models.
> The 2000 ES 300 uses a cabin filter that looks like this:
> http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/200...ake/cabin_air_
> filter.html
>
> What is the best course of action now?
>

I guess it would depend on what you want them to do:

Replace it with the correct filter

Refund your money

If the newer style filter fits the filter compartment, perhaps it is
perfectly adequate. If is not an exact replacement, then you will need
to determine that.

I had a 200 ES300 and later owned a 2007 ES350 and I know the filter and
replacement is a bit pricey. /

/If it were me I would go to the Parts Department and ask to see the 2
different filters to determine if one could actually be incorrectly
installed rather than the other.

It is entirely possible that they installed the correct filter but used
the wrong filter number on your invoice since your car is quite a bit
older than most of the cars they are servicing. You may actually have
the right filter but the wrong part # on your invoice.


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Old 02 Jan 2012, 11:20 am   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Toyota dealership uses wrong cabin air filter for Lexus?

On Dec 29 2011, 4:37 am, Smarty <nob...@nobody.com> wrote:
> On 12/28/2011 7:53 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:> I took my car (2000 Lexus

ES 300) to a Toyota Dealership.
> > Requested cabin air filter replacement. It is an extremely difficult
> > part to reach on the 2000 Lexus ES 300 (close to the accelerator
> > pedal/center floor console).
> > They claimed they changed it: Part #87139-YZZ05, and gave me the
> > supposedly old filter (I requested to see it).

>
> > To the best of my knowledge, the 87139-YZZ05 is the cabin filter for
> > 2002 and later Toyota/Lexus models.
> > The 2000 ES 300 uses a cabin filter that looks like this:
> >http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/200...ake/cabin_air_
> > filter.html

>
> > What is the best course of action now?

>
> I guess it would depend on what you want them to do:
>
> Replace it with the correct filter
>
> Refund your money
>
> If the newer style filter fits the filter compartment, perhaps it is
> perfectly adequate. If is not an exact replacement, then you will need
> to determine that.
>
> I had a 200 ES300 and later owned a 2007 ES350 and I know the filter and
> replacement is a bit pricey. /
>
> /If it were me I would go to the Parts Department and ask to see the 2
> different filters to determine if one could actually be incorrectly
> installed rather than the other.
>
> It is entirely possible that they installed the correct filter but used
> the wrong filter number on your invoice since your car is quite a bit
> older than most of the cars they are servicing. You may actually have
> the right filter but the wrong part # on your invoice.


I spoke to the service manager the next day.
He claimed the mechanic did replace the filter, and invited me down to
the repair facility to allow the mechanic to show me the new filter in
the car.
I went down the next day, and the mechanic tried to explain that he had
to remove the glove compartment to show me.
I told him that he could try to do that, but that the 2000 Lexus ES 300
had no air filter near the glove compartment (cabin filter is near the
accelerator pedal).
I even gave him a printout of what the filter looked like. It is a 2
part filter that looks nothing like the used 87139-YZZ05 they gave me
claiming that to be my old filter.
He took that to he Parts dept, said they had to order it and made me
wait for 3 hours while the part arrived, he replaced it and gave me the
correct old filter for my inspection.

The correct cabin filter costs around $25 online.

Should I file a complaint with the Bureau of Automotive Repairs, and
send a copy to Toyota and Lexus HQ, for this Toyota Dealership repair
facility trying to rip me off?












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Old 03 Jan 2012, 10:26 am   #4 (permalink)
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On 1/2/2012 11:20 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> On Dec 29 2011, 4:37 am, Smarty<nob...@nobody.com> wrote:
>> On 12/28/2011 7:53 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:> I took my car (2000 Lexus

> ES 300) to a Toyota Dealership.
>>> Requested cabin air filter replacement. It is an extremely difficult
>>> part to reach on the 2000 Lexus ES 300 (close to the accelerator
>>> pedal/center floor console).
>>> They claimed they changed it: Part #87139-YZZ05, and gave me the
>>> supposedly old filter (I requested to see it).
>>> To the best of my knowledge, the 87139-YZZ05 is the cabin filter for
>>> 2002 and later Toyota/Lexus models.
>>> The 2000 ES 300 uses a cabin filter that looks like this:
>>> http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/200...ake/cabin_air_
>>> filter.html
>>> What is the best course of action now?

>> I guess it would depend on what you want them to do:
>>
>> Replace it with the correct filter
>>
>> Refund your money
>>
>> If the newer style filter fits the filter compartment, perhaps it is
>> perfectly adequate. If is not an exact replacement, then you will need
>> to determine that.
>>
>> I had a 200 ES300 and later owned a 2007 ES350 and I know the filter and
>> replacement is a bit pricey. /
>>
>> /If it were me I would go to the Parts Department and ask to see the 2
>> different filters to determine if one could actually be incorrectly
>> installed rather than the other.
>>
>> It is entirely possible that they installed the correct filter but used
>> the wrong filter number on your invoice since your car is quite a bit
>> older than most of the cars they are servicing. You may actually have
>> the right filter but the wrong part # on your invoice.

> I spoke to the service manager the next day.
> He claimed the mechanic did replace the filter, and invited me down to
> the repair facility to allow the mechanic to show me the new filter in
> the car.
> I went down the next day, and the mechanic tried to explain that he had
> to remove the glove compartment to show me.
> I told him that he could try to do that, but that the 2000 Lexus ES 300
> had no air filter near the glove compartment (cabin filter is near the
> accelerator pedal).
> I even gave him a printout of what the filter looked like. It is a 2
> part filter that looks nothing like the used 87139-YZZ05 they gave me
> claiming that to be my old filter.
> He took that to he Parts dept, said they had to order it and made me
> wait for 3 hours while the part arrived, he replaced it and gave me the
> correct old filter for my inspection.
>
> The correct cabin filter costs around $25 online.
>
> Should I file a complaint with the Bureau of Automotive Repairs, and
> send a copy to Toyota and Lexus HQ, for this Toyota Dealership repair
> facility trying to rip me off?
>
>
>
>
>
>

I would ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY file a complaint with both the BBB,
Toyota/ Lexus, and I would personally go to the State Attorney General's
Office as well, since I personally had entirely BAD, BAD, BAD service on
my 2nd ES350. I no longer own a Lexus as a result, am now driving a very
well performing Acura, and have horror stories about the one and only
local Lexus dealer here providing shoddy service, a very haughty and
arrogant attitude, high prices, and a disgusting attitude of "we are in
the ONLY Lexus dealer in town so get in line".........

I was on the verge of sending letters myself but never had the time
since I was yet to be retired. Now I wish I had, but it is years later
since I had and sold my 2007 ES350.

Toyota in general and Lexus in particular very very badly need some
external pressure. Their handling of the floor mat debacle was nothing
but disgusting to me, for example.
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