Toyota Replicated Sudden Acceleration, Forced Owners To Keep Quiet

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Old 29 Oct 2010, 12:15 am   #1 (permalink)
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Default Toyota Replicated Sudden Acceleration, Forced Owners To Keep Quiet

Toyota accused of forcing auto owners to keep quiet

New court filings accuse Toyota of secretly repurchasing vehicles
whose owners reported unintended acceleration and forcing owners to
sign confidentiality agreements promising not to discuss their
complaints.

In addition, attorneys representing thousands of Toyota owners charged
that the automaker’s technicians were able to replicate the sudden
acceleration and failed to notify the National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration of the problem.

Read more: Toyota accused of forcing auto owners to keep quiet |
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Old 29 Oct 2010, 10:02 am   #2 (permalink)
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On 10/28/2010 10:15 PM, john wrote:
<snip imbecilic crap>

question: why are you regurgitating proven bullshit about a manufacturer
who continues to source their components and labor here in the u.s.,
while taxpayer-funded g.m. is continuing to reduce jobs and component
sourcing here in the u.s. and increase both from their facilities in
china? or to put it another way, why the **** should american taxpayers
PAY to have their own jobs shipped overseas?


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Old 29 Oct 2010, 12:58 pm   #3 (permalink)
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On Oct 29, 11:02*am, jim beam <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> On 10/28/2010 10:15 PM, john wrote:
> <snip imbecilic crap>
>
> question: why are you regurgitating proven bullshit about a manufacturer
> who continues to source their components and labor here in the u.s.,
> while taxpayer-funded g.m. is continuing to reduce jobs and component
> sourcing here in the u.s. and increase both from their facilities in
> china? *or to put it another way, why the **** should american taxpayers
> PAY to have their own jobs shipped overseas?
>


Amen!
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Old 29 Oct 2010, 01:30 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On 2010-10-29, jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> On 10/28/2010 10:15 PM, john wrote:
><snip imbecilic crap>
>
> question: why are you regurgitating proven bullshit about a manufacturer
> who continues to source their components and labor here in the u.s.,
> while taxpayer-funded g.m. is continuing to reduce jobs and component
> sourcing here in the u.s. and increase both from their facilities in
> china? or to put it another way, why the **** should american taxpayers
> PAY to have their own jobs shipped overseas?


Because many americans decided that government should have total power
because they wanted free stuff at someone else's expense, decided that
good works could be done through theft at the barrel of a gun,
thought that regulations/laws wouldn't be misuesd, and they wanted to
tell their neighbors how to live.

Politics became a sport that decided who got to steal from who. Theft
became the culture of the country. The morals of people degraded with
the quality and honesty of the money. To expect moral behavior from
thieves is well stupid, but it is what it is now. US jobs don't matter,
they are on top, and screw everyone else. They will get their's while
the getting is good. That's the morality now. From the corporate
executives to the elected office holders to the union leaders.


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Old 29 Oct 2010, 05:47 pm   #5 (permalink)
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On 10/29/2010 08:02 AM, jim beam wrote:
> On 10/28/2010 10:15 PM, john wrote:
> <snip imbecilic crap>
>
> question: why are you regurgitating proven bullshit about a manufacturer
> who continues to source their components and labor here in the u.s.,
> while taxpayer-funded g.m. is continuing to reduce jobs and component
> sourcing here in the u.s. and increase both from their facilities in
> china? or to put it another way, why the **** should american taxpayers
> PAY to have their own jobs shipped overseas?
>
>


here's a little nugget:

“Current Chinese officials have told me that we’re not going to attack
Wall Street, because we basically own it”

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...urrentPage=all

as if we didn't already know that. it's why wall street keeps telling
u.s. c.e.o's to keep shipping jobs to china, regardless of quality or
public disgust issues.


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Old 29 Oct 2010, 06:05 pm   #6 (permalink)
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if only you could afford to purchase a TOYOTA! LOL! Keep saving your coins
to take the bus! LOL!


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Old 29 Oct 2010, 06:58 pm   #7 (permalink)
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> On 10/29/2010 08:02 AM, jim beam wrote:


>> question: why are you regurgitating proven bullshit about a manufacturer
>> who continues to source their components and labor here in the u.s.,
>> while taxpayer-funded g.m. is continuing to reduce jobs and component
>> sourcing here in the u.s. and increase both from their facilities in
>> china? or to put it another way, why the **** should american taxpayers
>> PAY to have their own jobs shipped overseas?


The factories that GM, Ford and other car makers are building are for
cars that are going to be sold in China. They are not going to result in
jobs being shipped overseas. China is the largest car market in the
world. We should be happy that US companies are building factories there
so they can sell cars there.

Jeff
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Old 29 Oct 2010, 07:06 pm   #8 (permalink)
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"dr_jeff" <utz@msu.edu> wrote in message
news:kNCdnYdm45I_wlbRnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
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>> On 10/29/2010 08:02 AM, jim beam wrote:

>
>>> question: why are you regurgitating proven bullshit about a manufacturer
>>> who continues to source their components and labor here in the u.s.,
>>> while taxpayer-funded g.m. is continuing to reduce jobs and component
>>> sourcing here in the u.s. and increase both from their facilities in
>>> china? or to put it another way, why the **** should american taxpayers
>>> PAY to have their own jobs shipped overseas?

>
> The factories that GM, Ford and other car makers are building are for cars
> that are going to be sold in China. They are not going to result in jobs
> being shipped overseas. China is the largest car market in the world. We
> should be happy that US companies are building factories there so they can
> sell cars there.
>
> Jeff



China builds cars there and ships them here while we build cars there and
sell them there.

Tell us again why this is a good arrangment ...







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Old 29 Oct 2010, 07:30 pm   #9 (permalink)
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dr_jeff <utz@msu.edu> wrote:
>> On 10/29/2010 08:02 AM, jim beam wrote:

>
>>> question: why are you regurgitating proven bullshit about a manufacturer
>>> who continues to source their components and labor here in the u.s.,
>>> while taxpayer-funded g.m. is continuing to reduce jobs and component
>>> sourcing here in the u.s. and increase both from their facilities in
>>> china? or to put it another way, why the **** should american taxpayers
>>> PAY to have their own jobs shipped overseas?

>
>The factories that GM, Ford and other car makers are building are for
>cars that are going to be sold in China. They are not going to result in
>jobs being shipped overseas. China is the largest car market in the
>world. We should be happy that US companies are building factories there
>so they can sell cars there.


That's not his issue. His issue is that, rather than subcontracting parts
manufacture to American parts manufacturers, GM (and Chrysler and Ford
and Toyota) are subcontracting an increasing amount of parts fabrication
to China. Or they are subcontracting them to folks like Delta who then
sub-subcontract them to Chinese firms.

And I agree that this -is- a bad thing, but I am not sure there is really
much we can do about it other than to wait for the inevitable consequences.
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Old 29 Oct 2010, 07:31 pm   #10 (permalink)
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On 10/29/2010 04:58 PM, dr_jeff wrote:
>
>> On 10/29/2010 08:02 AM, jim beam wrote:

>
>>> question: why are you regurgitating proven bullshit about a manufacturer
>>> who continues to source their components and labor here in the u.s.,
>>> while taxpayer-funded g.m. is continuing to reduce jobs and component
>>> sourcing here in the u.s. and increase both from their facilities in
>>> china? or to put it another way, why the **** should american taxpayers
>>> PAY to have their own jobs shipped overseas?

>
> The factories that GM, Ford and other car makers are building are for
> cars that are going to be sold in China. They are not going to result in
> jobs being shipped overseas. China is the largest car market in the
> world. We should be happy that US companies are building factories there
> so they can sell cars there.
>
> Jeff


nope, you're wrong. g.m. has windshields, seats, wiring harnesses,
engine computers, brakes, driveshafts, transmission parts, [etc]
manufactured in china and shipped here for assembly. g.m. have thereby
exported american jobs, and we the taxpayers are paying for them to do
so. it's a criminal disgrace.


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