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Old 12 Dec 2010, 08:58 am   #1 (permalink)
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story summary:
On December 10, 2010, while speaking to "The Economic Club of
Washington DC" General Motors CEO Dan Akerson said, "We commonly refer
to the geek-mobile as the Prius. And I wouldn't be caught dead in a
Prius." Akerson declared the Chevy Volt as the "world's first electric
vehicle with extended range capability."
During the talk, CEO Akerson complained that GM's 49.5 billion dollar
federal bailout restriction on executive salary and compensation made
it difficult for him to attract and retain executives.

commentary:
Not everyone who drives a Prius is a *geek* ( technologically inspired
individual),
most of the people who drive a Prius drive it normally and do not use
it to it
fullest potential. However, because the Prius drive technology is so
advanced
it can do easily do hypermiling driving techniques that once took
great skill
to do -- so it has a significant community of Ecologically -Energy
Efficiency
inspired drivers than the limited edition of the 199x Honda Insight
(first
gen honda Insight hybrid - which is the car which currently holds the
BEST
hypermiling results so far in national competition). The Chevy Volt
is a fine
car but it's success does not hinge on how much GM pays Akerson or his
top executives. Like the Prius the Volt is a work in progress -
however,
the Volt design team does not have the Prius design team advantage of
being
in the real world for ten years. Ultimately it will not be the
executive but
the geeks of GM's engineering research and development section which
will determine if Chevy Volt design will survive the real world.
Because the
Volt is such a unique car - GM needs to provide additional support to
the
owner/drivers. For example, since the Volt does not come with a spare
tire
it should either come with run-flat tires or On-star should come free
for the
first two or three years. Given Volt's high MRSP, GM should also be
providing technical assistance for the Volt via a user group forum
via
the internet.



sources
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Top GM exec says federal pay limits hurt company
Ken Thomas. Associated Press. Dec 10 2010
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

GM CEO calls Toyota Prius a "geek-mobile." touts Chevrolet Volt
Mark Trumbull. Christan Science Monitor. Dec 10, 2010
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/20...Chevrolet-Volt

GM CEO calls Toyota Prius "geek-mobile." wants to pay execs more
James R Healey/Drive On, USA Today
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...y-execs-more/1
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Old 12 Dec 2010, 05:10 pm   #2 (permalink)
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On 12/12/2010 9:58 AM, Neo wrote:
> story summary:
> On December 10, 2010, while speaking to "The Economic Club of
> Washington DC" General Motors CEO Dan Akerson said, "We commonly refer
> to the geek-mobile as the Prius. And I wouldn't be caught dead in a
> Prius." Akerson declared the Chevy Volt as the "world's first electric
> vehicle with extended range capability."
> During the talk, CEO Akerson complained that GM's 49.5 billion dollar
> federal bailout restriction on executive salary and compensation made
> it difficult for him to attract and retain executives.
>
> commentary:
> Not everyone who drives a Prius is a *geek* ( technologically inspired
> individual),
> most of the people who drive a Prius drive it normally and do not use
> it to it
> fullest potential. However, because the Prius drive technology is so
> advanced
> it can do easily do hypermiling driving techniques that once took
> great skill
> to do -- so it has a significant community of Ecologically -Energy
> Efficiency
> inspired drivers than the limited edition of the 199x Honda Insight
> (first
> gen honda Insight hybrid - which is the car which currently holds the
> BEST
> hypermiling results so far in national competition). The Chevy Volt
> is a fine
> car but it's success does not hinge on how much GM pays Akerson or his
> top executives. Like the Prius the Volt is a work in progress -
> however,
> the Volt design team does not have the Prius design team advantage of
> being
> in the real world for ten years. Ultimately it will not be the
> executive but
> the geeks of GM's engineering research and development section which
> will determine if Chevy Volt design will survive the real world.
> Because the
> Volt is such a unique car - GM needs to provide additional support to
> the
> owner/drivers. For example, since the Volt does not come with a spare
> tire
> it should either come with run-flat tires or On-star should come free
> for the
> first two or three years. Given Volt's high MRSP, GM should also be
> providing technical assistance for the Volt via a user group forum
> via
> the internet.
>
>
>
> sources
> ========
> Top GM exec says federal pay limits hurt company
> Ken Thomas. Associated Press. Dec 10 2010
> http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
>
> GM CEO calls Toyota Prius a "geek-mobile." touts Chevrolet Volt
> Mark Trumbull. Christan Science Monitor. Dec 10, 2010
> http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/20...Chevrolet-Volt
>
> GM CEO calls Toyota Prius "geek-mobile." wants to pay execs more
> James R Healey/Drive On, USA Today
> http://content.usatoday.com/communit...y-execs-more/1



Why should anyone pay a premium salary for the fraud that is "Chevy Volt"?
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Old 13 Dec 2010, 11:42 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Neo wrote:
> story summary:
> On December 10, 2010, while speaking to "The Economic Club of
> Washington DC" General Motors CEO Dan Akerson said, "We commonly refer
> to the geek-mobile as the Prius. And I wouldn't be caught dead in a
> Prius." Akerson declared the Chevy Volt as the "world's first electric
> vehicle with extended range capability."
> During the talk, CEO Akerson complained that GM's 49.5 billion dollar
> federal bailout restriction on executive salary and compensation made
> it difficult for him to attract and retain executives.
>
> commentary:
> Not everyone who drives a Prius is a *geek* ( technologically inspired
> individual),
> most of the people who drive a Prius drive it normally and do not use
> it to it
> fullest potential. However, because the Prius drive technology is so
> advanced
> it can do easily do hypermiling driving techniques that once took
> great skill
> to do -- so it has a significant community of Ecologically -Energy
> Efficiency
> inspired drivers than the limited edition of the 199x Honda Insight
> (first
> gen honda Insight hybrid - which is the car which currently holds the
> BEST
> hypermiling results so far in national competition). The Chevy Volt
> is a fine
> car but it's success does not hinge on how much GM pays Akerson or his
> top executives. Like the Prius the Volt is a work in progress -
> however,
> the Volt design team does not have the Prius design team advantage of
> being
> in the real world for ten years. Ultimately it will not be the
> executive but
> the geeks of GM's engineering research and development section which
> will determine if Chevy Volt design will survive the real world.
> Because the
> Volt is such a unique car - GM needs to provide additional support to
> the
> owner/drivers. For example, since the Volt does not come with a spare
> tire
> it should either come with run-flat tires or On-star should come free
> for the
> first two or three years. Given Volt's high MRSP, GM should also be
> providing technical assistance for the Volt via a user group forum
> via
> the internet.



No spare tire? No run flat tires? Yikes. Hopefully it at least has
free roadside assistance...


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Old 14 Dec 2010, 07:20 pm   #4 (permalink)
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On Dec 14, 12:42*am, Leftie <N...@Thanks.net> wrote:
> Neo wrote:
> > story summary:
> > On December 10, 2010, while speaking to "The Economic Club of
> > Washington DC" General Motors CEO Dan Akerson said, "We commonly refer
> > to the geek-mobile as the Prius. And I wouldn't be caught dead in a
> > Prius." Akerson declared the Chevy Volt as the "world's first electric
> > vehicle with extended range capability."
> > During the talk, CEO Akerson complained that GM's 49.5 billion dollar
> > federal bailout restriction on executive salary and compensation made
> > it difficult for him to attract and retain executives.

>
> > commentary:
> > Not everyone who drives a Prius is a *geek* ( technologically inspired
> > individual),
> > most of the people who drive a Prius drive it normally and do not use
> > it to it
> > fullest potential. However, because the Prius drive technology is so
> > advanced
> > it *can do easily do hypermiling driving techniques that once took
> > great skill
> > to do -- so it has a significant community of *Ecologically -Energy
> > Efficiency
> > inspired drivers *than the limited edition of the 199x Honda Insight
> > (first
> > gen honda Insight hybrid - which is the car which currently holds the
> > BEST
> > hypermiling results so far in national competition). *The Chevy Volt
> > is a fine
> > car but it's success does not hinge on how much GM pays Akerson or his
> > top executives. *Like the Prius the Volt is a work in progress -
> > however,
> > the Volt design team does not have the Prius design team advantage of
> > being
> > in the real world for ten years. Ultimately it will not be the
> > executive but
> > the geeks of GM's engineering research and development section which
> > will determine if Chevy Volt design will survive the real world.
> > Because the
> > Volt is such a unique car - GM needs to provide additional support to
> > the
> > owner/drivers. For example, since the Volt does not come with a spare
> > tire
> > it should either come with run-flat tires or On-star should come free
> > for the
> > first two or three years. Given Volt's high MRSP, GM should also be
> > providing technical assistance for the Volt via a user group forum
> > via
> > the internet.

>
> * * No spare tire? No run flat tires? Yikes. Hopefully it at least has
> free roadside assistance...


Currently GM is fitting the Chevy Volt with Goodyear Assurance Fuel
Max (TM)
which are good low rolling resistant tires but since the Volt has no
spare tire
I believe GM should fit the Chevy Volt with run flat radial tires like
the Goodyear Eagle NCT5(TM)

GM's OnStar is currently an option for the Chevy Volt but in my humble
opinion
I think it or some other kind of roadside assistance (AAA maybe?) is
necessary.
The Chevy Volt design still needs work.

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Old 15 Dec 2010, 08:45 am   #5 (permalink)
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On 12/14/2010 8:20 PM, Neo wrote:
> On Dec 14, 12:42 am, Leftie<N...@Thanks.net> wrote:
>> Neo wrote:
>>> story summary:
>>> On December 10, 2010, while speaking to "The Economic Club of
>>> Washington DC" General Motors CEO Dan Akerson said, "We commonly refer
>>> to the geek-mobile as the Prius. And I wouldn't be caught dead in a
>>> Prius." Akerson declared the Chevy Volt as the "world's first electric
>>> vehicle with extended range capability."
>>> During the talk, CEO Akerson complained that GM's 49.5 billion dollar
>>> federal bailout restriction on executive salary and compensation made
>>> it difficult for him to attract and retain executives.

>>
>>> commentary:
>>> Not everyone who drives a Prius is a *geek* ( technologically inspired
>>> individual),
>>> most of the people who drive a Prius drive it normally and do not use
>>> it to it
>>> fullest potential. However, because the Prius drive technology is so
>>> advanced
>>> it can do easily do hypermiling driving techniques that once took
>>> great skill
>>> to do -- so it has a significant community of Ecologically -Energy
>>> Efficiency
>>> inspired drivers than the limited edition of the 199x Honda Insight
>>> (first
>>> gen honda Insight hybrid - which is the car which currently holds the
>>> BEST
>>> hypermiling results so far in national competition). The Chevy Volt
>>> is a fine
>>> car but it's success does not hinge on how much GM pays Akerson or his
>>> top executives. Like the Prius the Volt is a work in progress -
>>> however,
>>> the Volt design team does not have the Prius design team advantage of
>>> being
>>> in the real world for ten years. Ultimately it will not be the
>>> executive but
>>> the geeks of GM's engineering research and development section which
>>> will determine if Chevy Volt design will survive the real world.
>>> Because the
>>> Volt is such a unique car - GM needs to provide additional support to
>>> the
>>> owner/drivers. For example, since the Volt does not come with a spare
>>> tire
>>> it should either come with run-flat tires or On-star should come free
>>> for the
>>> first two or three years. Given Volt's high MRSP, GM should also be
>>> providing technical assistance for the Volt via a user group forum
>>> via
>>> the internet.

>>
>> No spare tire? No run flat tires? Yikes. Hopefully it at least has
>> free roadside assistance...

>
> Currently GM is fitting the Chevy Volt with Goodyear Assurance Fuel
> Max (TM)
> which are good low rolling resistant tires but since the Volt has no
> spare tire
> I believe GM should fit the Chevy Volt with run flat radial tires like
> the Goodyear Eagle NCT5(TM)
>
> GM's OnStar is currently an option for the Chevy Volt but in my humble
> opinion
> I think it or some other kind of roadside assistance (AAA maybe?) is
> necessary.
> The Chevy Volt design still needs work.
>



OnStar won't work when the batteries fail....
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Old 16 Dec 2010, 08:42 am   #6 (permalink)
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:45:07 -0500, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:


>> GM's OnStar is currently an option for the Chevy Volt but in my humble
>> opinion
>> I think it or some other kind of roadside assistance (AAA maybe?) is
>> necessary.
>> The Chevy Volt design still needs work.
>>

>
>
>OnStar won't work when the batteries fail....


Huh? You can't press the OnStar button if the battery is completely
dead, but can certainly call them just like AAA or any other roadside
assistance plan.
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Old 16 Dec 2010, 10:06 am   #7 (permalink)
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On 12/16/2010 9:42 AM, greenpjs@neo.rr.com wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:45:07 -0500, News<News@Group.Name> wrote:
>
>
>>> GM's OnStar is currently an option for the Chevy Volt but in my humble
>>> opinion
>>> I think it or some other kind of roadside assistance (AAA maybe?) is
>>> necessary.
>>> The Chevy Volt design still needs work.
>>>

>>
>>
>> OnStar won't work when the batteries fail....

>
> Huh? You can't press the OnStar button if the battery is completely
> dead


As stated.


, but can certainly call them just like AAA or any other roadside
> assistance plan.



Since you have a cell phone, why do you need OnStar?
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Old 16 Dec 2010, 11:09 am   #8 (permalink)
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:06:37 -0500, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

>On 12/16/2010 9:42 AM, greenpjs@neo.rr.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:45:07 -0500, News<News@Group.Name> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> GM's OnStar is currently an option for the Chevy Volt but in my humble
>>>> opinion
>>>> I think it or some other kind of roadside assistance (AAA maybe?) is
>>>> necessary.
>>>> The Chevy Volt design still needs work.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OnStar won't work when the batteries fail....

>>
>> Huh? You can't press the OnStar button if the battery is completely
>> dead

>
>As stated.
>
>
>, but can certainly call them just like AAA or any other roadside
>> assistance plan.

>
>
>Since you have a cell phone, why do you need OnStar?

I, personally, don't need OnStar nor do I have it. But, they can do
things like unlock your car if it gets locked accidentally (hard to do
in modern cars like my Prius) and they get notified of airbag
deployment, etc. I also know people who use it to ask for restaurant
recommendations and things like that. It is not worth it to me, but
others disagree. Regardless, my only point was that it is not useless
if your battery is dead.
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On 12/16/2010 12:09 PM, greenpjs@neo.rr.com wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:06:37 -0500, News<News@Group.Name> wrote:
>
>> On 12/16/2010 9:42 AM, greenpjs@neo.rr.com wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:45:07 -0500, News<News@Group.Name> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> GM's OnStar is currently an option for the Chevy Volt but in my humble
>>>>> opinion
>>>>> I think it or some other kind of roadside assistance (AAA maybe?) is
>>>>> necessary.
>>>>> The Chevy Volt design still needs work.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OnStar won't work when the batteries fail....
>>>
>>> Huh? You can't press the OnStar button if the battery is completely
>>> dead

>>
>> As stated.
>>
>>
>> , but can certainly call them just like AAA or any other roadside
>>> assistance plan.

>>
>>
>> Since you have a cell phone, why do you need OnStar?

> I, personally, don't need OnStar nor do I have it. But, they can do
> things like unlock your car if it gets locked accidentally (hard to do
> in modern cars like my Prius) and they get notified of airbag
> deployment, etc. I also know people who use it to ask for restaurant
> recommendations and things like that. It is not worth it to me, but
> others disagree. Regardless, my only point was that it is not useless
> if your battery is dead.



So, pray tell, how does it work when your car battery is dead?
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Old 16 Dec 2010, 08:26 pm   #10 (permalink)
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:14:22 -0500, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

>On 12/16/2010 12:09 PM, greenpjs@neo.rr.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:06:37 -0500, News<News@Group.Name> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/16/2010 9:42 AM, greenpjs@neo.rr.com wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:45:07 -0500, News<News@Group.Name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> GM's OnStar is currently an option for the Chevy Volt but in my humble
>>>>>> opinion
>>>>>> I think it or some other kind of roadside assistance (AAA maybe?) is
>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>> The Chevy Volt design still needs work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OnStar won't work when the batteries fail....
>>>>
>>>> Huh? You can't press the OnStar button if the battery is completely
>>>> dead
>>>
>>> As stated.
>>>
>>>
>>> , but can certainly call them just like AAA or any other roadside
>>>> assistance plan.
>>>
>>>
>>> Since you have a cell phone, why do you need OnStar?

>> I, personally, don't need OnStar nor do I have it. But, they can do
>> things like unlock your car if it gets locked accidentally (hard to do
>> in modern cars like my Prius) and they get notified of airbag
>> deployment, etc. I also know people who use it to ask for restaurant
>> recommendations and things like that. It is not worth it to me, but
>> others disagree. Regardless, my only point was that it is not useless
>> if your battery is dead.

>
>
>So, pray tell, how does it work when your car battery is dead?


How does your cell phone work when its battery is dead?
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