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Old 11 Sep 2011, 05:30 pm   #1 (permalink)
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I'm a new driver of Prius and I try my best to balance between MPG and traffic condition. This lady driving a Prius before me I encountered the other day was over the edge. She kept driving at 39 to 40 mph in a busy 50MPH speed limit road. In a down hill road, it was pretty easy to go over 50MPH. With her insistence to maintain a most economic driving speed for her, she successfully made the others burn more gas and form a long line behind her. Iwas glad the road turned 2 lanes after 5 miles.

In situations like this, I usually would drive at or close to the speed limit even I know it would use more gas.

What do yo think?

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Old 11 Sep 2011, 07:37 pm   #2 (permalink)
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:30:46 -0700 (PDT), liu <spamfreeliu@yahoo.com>
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>I'm a new driver of Prius and I try my best to balance between MPG and traffic condition. This lady driving a Prius before me I encountered the other day was over the edge. She kept driving at 39 to 40 mph in a busy 50MPH speed limit road. In a down hill road, it was pretty easy to go over 50MPH. With her insistence to maintain a most economic driving speed for her, she successfully made the others burn more gas and form a long line behind her. I was glad the road turned 2 lanes after 5 miles.
>
>In situations like this, I usually would drive at or close to the speed limit even I know it would use more gas.
>
>What do yo think?


If she were going down hill at the speed limit she would likely burn
no more gas that she was at 39 to 40 or not a measurable amont. On the
other side of the coin her driving that speed limit was saving gas for
those following her, not making them burn more as you stated. I
typically always drive right at the speed limit. I do think most
drivers on the road today do need to realize that a speed limit is a
maximum and not a minimum.
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Old 11 Sep 2011, 10:57 pm   #3 (permalink)
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"totfit" <totfit@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message
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> On the
> other side of the coin her driving that speed limit was saving gas for
> those following her, not making them burn more as you stated.


I 100% guarantee that at least 1 was burning more and not less, why you may
ask? Because some people are incapable of coasting. There had to have been
at least one in that wolf pack behind her that was repeatedly speeding up
till they got too close then hitting their brakes to slow back down. All
those behind this person would likely be affected too. I see it all the
time around here.

People don't get that hitting the brakes is equivalent to dumping a little
fuel on the ground and lighting it just to watch it burn.

Prius drivers SHOULD NOT try to be speed limit enforcers, let the cops do
their jobs. Drive for MPG when you can, be courteous when you can't.

I don't have a Prius yet but traffic permitting I will cruise at 54-59 on
the highway then about 1.5 miles before my turn I will slowly (IE without
making the torque converter clutch unlock) speed up to 62-65 then coast to
my turn. My current car ('97 Lumina 3.1) will only do closed throttle
deceleration fuel cut mode at 53MPH or above when in 4th gear.

If there is a car close behind me I will slow down much later and leave my
lane when possible to let them by me, so to the opposing lane with no cars
coming or to the gravel shoulder depending on the direction of the turn. I
especially do this when it is a tractor-trailer rig (Semi) as any fuel I
would have saved would be used many times over by him having to slow down
and speed back up, especially if it involved any gear changes.


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Old 12 Sep 2011, 04:41 am   #4 (permalink)
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liu <spamfreeliu@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm a new driver of Prius and I try my best to balance between MPG and
> traffic condition. This lady driving a Prius before me I encountered the
> other day was over the edge. She kept driving at 39 to 40 mph in a busy 50MPH
> speed limit road.


You focus on the fact that she drives a Prius, as if somehow she's a
"typical asshat Prius driver trying to save gas"--when in fact she may
just be a slower driver.

You DO know that 50mph is the LIMIT, and is not the MINIMUM. If she's
driving 40, so what? She's under the LIMIT. If she's driving 40 and is
in the right lane, then what's the big deal?

> In a down hill road, it was pretty easy to go over 50MPH.


If she was in a Prius on a downhill and was not feathering the throttle
to keep the system in a neutral state, neither using nor generating
power, AND she was not going 50, then she was not driving in such a way
to save gas. She was just...driving in a manner that was comfortable
for her.

Take the "Prius to save gas" aspect away from all of this. You just ran
into a driver that drives slowly.



> With her insistence to maintain a most economic driving speed for her, she
> successfully made the others burn more gas and form a long line behind her.


How do you know she was doing this to save gas? You made a HUGE
assumption here.
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Old 12 Sep 2011, 07:16 am   #5 (permalink)
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"liu" wrote in message
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I'm a new driver of Prius and I try my best to balance between MPG and
traffic condition. This lady driving a Prius before me I encountered the
other day was over the edge. She kept driving at 39 to 40 mph in a busy
50MPH speed limit road. In a down hill road, it was pretty easy to go over
50MPH. With her insistence to maintain a most economic driving speed for
her, she successfully made the others burn more gas and form a long line
behind her. I was glad the road turned 2 lanes after 5 miles.

In situations like this, I usually would drive at or close to the speed
limit even I know it would use more gas.

What do yo think?

I think your assumption that those behind her are burning more gas is
incorrect. Fuel economy is inversely proportional to speed, as you
acknowledge in your second-to-last paragraph. I drive the speed limit on
two lane highways but I sometimes drive below the speed limit on 4 lane
highways simply because a passing lane is present for those who choose to
waste their money. What makes you think she was driving slowly to maximize
her fuel economy? Isn't that a stretch too?



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Old 13 Sep 2011, 06:07 am   #6 (permalink)
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On Sep 11, 5:30*pm, liu <spamfree...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> . . . This lady driving a Prius before me I encountered the other day wasover the edge. She kept driving
> at 39 to 40 mph in a busy 50MPH speed limit road. . . . a long line behind her. I was glad the road
> turned 2 lanes after 5 miles.
>
> In situations like this, I usually would drive at or close to the speed limit even I know it would use more gas.
>
> What do yo think?


Saturday morning, the two lane roads in Alabama will have one or more,
battered pickup trucks running at 45 mph on the 55-60 mph posted roads
with a line of SUVs and 'City' pickups behind them. My favorite trick
is to find the pickup with a trailer full of lawn mowers and yard work
equipment or a delivery truck to use as pace vehicles. The other slow
vehicles have "handicap" tags.

The Prius does not force anyone to drive at any given speed. Speed is
the driver's choice.

As for following vehicles burning more fuel, again, that is their
choice. If someone is so silly as to tailgate and use "pulse and
brake," semi-aggressive style, well they can afford it. It is their
car, their gas, and their choice. If they don't want to ever follow
slow cars, they should only drive between midnight and dawn . . . the
roads are free of other traffic.

Bob Wilson


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Old 13 Sep 2011, 06:56 am   #7 (permalink)
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On Sep 11, 5:30*pm, liu <spamfree...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm a new driver of Prius and I try my best to balance between MPG and traffic condition. This lady driving a Prius . . .


Now I have a question for you.

My daily commute uses about 4-5 miles of the "Parkway" in Huntsville,
AL (use Google Street view to look at "4005 South Memorial Parkway,
Huntsville AL".) It consists of four lanes, 50 mph, divided highway
with limited access bounded on both sides with two-lane, 40 mph,
access roads. In the morning and evenings, I tend to use the access
roads, the slow lane, at 38 mph as this gives great Prius mileage. But
what about the pickups, SUVs, and cars that ride up within 20 ft., one
car-length?

Usually I'll see them approaching at a high speed and regardless of
the left lane being free, they snuggle right up on my bumper and stay
there. So many times, I'll turn on my left turn signal, change lanes,
and to my amusement, they will accelerate down that lane . . . often
to take a turn half-way down the block in front.

So I'm following the rules of the road including staying in the right,
slow lane. I'm at actually at 40 mph due to the larger diameter tires
I'm using. Yet still, these jerks instead of 'passing the slow
traffic' prefer to tailgate my Prius.

Do you approve of such driving behavior by these drivers?

FACTS:

1) We are both on the 40 mph access road.
2) I'm in the right-most, slow lane at 40 mph.
3) The left lane is clear, no traffic.
4) The speeding, following traffic does not pass me on the left but
BRAKEs to TAILGATE me.

As an experiment, I've slipped the car into "N" to let the car coast
to slower speeds just to find out at what speed they would 'get a
clue' and pass me. I've been as slow as 30 mph before they finally
turned on their blinker and passed.

Bob Wilson




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Old 13 Sep 2011, 08:35 am   #8 (permalink)
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On 9/13/2011 7:56 AM, bwilson4web wrote:
> On Sep 11, 5:30 pm, liu<spamfree...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I'm a new driver of Prius and I try my best to balance between MPG and traffic condition. This lady driving a Prius . . .

>
> Now I have a question for you.
>
> My daily commute uses about 4-5 miles of the "Parkway" in Huntsville,
> AL (use Google Street view to look at "4005 South Memorial Parkway,
> Huntsville AL".) It consists of four lanes, 50 mph, divided highway
> with limited access bounded on both sides with two-lane, 40 mph,
> access roads. In the morning and evenings, I tend to use the access
> roads, the slow lane, at 38 mph as this gives great Prius mileage. But
> what about the pickups, SUVs, and cars that ride up within 20 ft., one
> car-length?
>
> Usually I'll see them approaching at a high speed and regardless of
> the left lane being free, they snuggle right up on my bumper and stay
> there. So many times, I'll turn on my left turn signal, change lanes,
> and to my amusement, they will accelerate down that lane . . . often
> to take a turn half-way down the block in front.
>
> So I'm following the rules of the road including staying in the right,
> slow lane. I'm at actually at 40 mph due to the larger diameter tires
> I'm using. Yet still, these jerks instead of 'passing the slow
> traffic' prefer to tailgate my Prius.
>
> Do you approve of such driving behavior by these drivers?
>
> FACTS:
>
> 1) We are both on the 40 mph access road.
> 2) I'm in the right-most, slow lane at 40 mph.
> 3) The left lane is clear, no traffic.
> 4) The speeding, following traffic does not pass me on the left but
> BRAKEs to TAILGATE me.
>
> As an experiment, I've slipped the car into "N" to let the car coast
> to slower speeds just to find out at what speed they would 'get a
> clue' and pass me. I've been as slow as 30 mph before they finally
> turned on their blinker and passed.
>
> Bob Wilson
>
>
>
>



You're suggesting they should have jinked left, passed, then cut you off
to make the exit? The example being from the US South, I would have
expected the ever-present bull-bars to be involved. Make way...
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Old 14 Sep 2011, 08:20 am   #9 (permalink)
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On Sep 13, 8:35*am, News <N...@Group.Name> wrote:
> On 9/13/2011 7:56 AM, bwilson4web wrote:
>

.. . .
>
> You're suggesting they should have jinked left, passed, then cut you off
> to make the exit? *The example being from the US South, I would have
> expected the ever-present bull-bars to be involved. *Make way...


As they pass me and change lanes, we "scissor" as I check my left and
change into the now free lane at the same time . . . often without
losing any speed. As soon as I pass them, I change back since their
turn blocks the right lane. A thing of beauty, it takes skill and is
quite enjoyable. Good drivers monitor the rear view mirrors nearly as
much as the front.

Bob Wilson


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Old 15 Sep 2011, 04:40 am   #10 (permalink)
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bwilson4web wrote:
> On Sep 13, 8:35 am, News <N...@Group.Name> wrote:
>> On 9/13/2011 7:56 AM, bwilson4web wrote:
>>

> . . .
>> You're suggesting they should have jinked left, passed, then cut you off
>> to make the exit? The example being from the US South, I would have
>> expected the ever-present bull-bars to be involved. Make way...

>
> As they pass me and change lanes, we "scissor" as I check my left and
> change into the now free lane at the same time . . . often without
> losing any speed. As soon as I pass them, I change back since their
> turn blocks the right lane. A thing of beauty, it takes skill and is
> quite enjoyable. Good drivers monitor the rear view mirrors nearly as
> much as the front.
>
> Bob Wilson
>
>



If the exit is so close that someone will have to cut you off after
passing you to take it, there is no reason for them to pass you in the
first place. The freeways have become grade school playgrounds, I'm afraid.
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